Really comes down to Tri-Beam vs. Destructo Disc. Whichever connects first, wins.
That said, I'd favor the Destructo Discs every single time... Especially since Krillin can spam them mid-fight, and it doesn't take much energy at all for him to do so.
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Kikoho can be dodged. That's why Tien didn't use it on Goku in their rematch.
Destructo disc by itself is pretty useless, but with Super skills Krillin would win pretty easily.
Here though, odds are Tien wins. More skills, with Krillins bag of tricks partly stolen from him. No real reason to think Krillin overpowers him at this point, with everyone having trained for the Cell Games.
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Tbf, it would be much harder to dodge DD spam, then it would be to dodge the Kikoho -- even 2nd form Freeza(who was like 13x more powerful than Krillin at the time) barely managed, and got his tail lopped off in the process.
Difference is that it takes Krillin a negligible amount of energy to create the Disks, whereas it takes everything Tien has to drop Kikohos.
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Tien should be able to copy the move. When he debuted, his thing was seeing a move once, then copying it at twice its power, as he did to Goku's Kamehameha.
Plus Freeza had his own version, so how hard can it be?
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He has logically been the most powerful earthling since the Freeza saga(when Guru unlocked him.) Tien's Kikoho is really the only chance he has to win, imo.
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Obviously, but not close enough as to where Krillin would lose, it depends on if we're taking manga or anime?
If it's manga, Krillin wins more often then not, if it's anime, Krillin has even more under his belt like taking on first-form Cell and actually forcing him to try.
Yes Tien pushed Cell down but it was an attack that was powerful enough to drain him of his life force if he used just ONE, then dude goes all out and uses 30 and it didn't even do that much damage, just kept forcing him down and therefore couldnt get up.
I mean, Yamcha and Tien both trained with King Kai after they died during the Saiyan saga(and during the Saiyan saga, their PLs were relatively close)... Fast-forward to the Android/Cell saga, and #19 & #20 originally mistook Yamcha's energy reading for Goku's -- and given that Gero had last recorded Goku during the Saiyan saga, it means Yamcha's PL could have been as high as 32,000, as that was Goku's max PL when he fought Vegeta.
So even if Tien was 2x Yamcha during the Android/Cell saga, it would 'only' put his PL around the 64,000 range. Flip side, Krillin's last recorded PL during the Freeza saga was canonically listed at 75,000 "and still rising." Then factor in his logical growth after training to fight the Androids for 3 years, and he was likely sitting above the 100,000 mark, imho.
So I don't think Tien would really be in Krillin's realm unless we could definitively say that he was at least 3x Yamcha during the Android/Cell saga... Which is pretty much impossible to prove, as his only real showing was using the Kikoho against Semi-Perfect Cell(which isn't indicative of his PL, as it obviously allows him to momentarily step WAAAY out of his weight class, at the expense of his own life.)
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Friendly reminder that power levels were only introduced so that toriyama could point out how ineffective they were as opposed to actual energy sensing
Power levels matter if a character is at full power, they're literally a measure of how strong a character is compared to another character.
So if a guidebook or some shit decides "hey, this dude's power level at full power is 10,000,000" and some other guy's power level is 9,000,000 at full power, the 10,000,000 guy is going to win in a straight fight every time.
That doesn't mean people with lower power levels aren't capable of beating those with higher power levels.
Krillin for example is capable of taking out people way above his paygrade by using clever tactics and shit.
PLs stopped mattering after the Namek saga, for the most part.
They'd still be an accurate measuring stick for the earthlings during the Cell saga, though... But even then it's mostly just speculation, because no canonical PLs were given after Namek.
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According to Roshi, the Kamehameha is "dog piss" compared to it. It goes right through them, and its pretty hard to avoid.
He can just rapid fire those off if Krillin tries to DD spam him.
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