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Goku hasn't used TK outside of God Bind which is different. He has used Telepathy to read Krillin's mind when he first landed on Namek though and in a filler, he used TK when he was in the hospital.

Originally, in DB there were 3 main fighting schools: Turtle, Crane, and Demon. Certain techniques were particular to the different schools. For example, Bukujutsu or levitation is a famous technique of the Crane school, and Goku, Krillin, and Yamcha never used it. But, eventually, they did. The Crane school is also famous for its psychic abilities such as TK and TP which all their members have used. There's really nothing stopping Goku from using these techniques since various characters have and are quite a basic technique.


So why can't Thawne counter it with his speed if Dypso did it?

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I think it was just half a second.

There was a lot going on in the Dyspo/Hit fight, tbf. But initially, yes, Dyspo was able to counter it with his FTL combat speed.

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So why can't Thawne counter it with his speed if Dypso did it?


Time skip can be countered and God Bind wasn't a thing in TOP.


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Time skip can be countered and God Bind wasn't a thing in TOP.


God Bind? How does it help against Thawne

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God Bind? How does it help against Thawne


Stops you from moving. And, Dyspo btw is an enhanced fighter with Super speed. He isn't just some guy with super speed.


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Thawne's temporal abilities far outclass Hit's in the grand scheme of things.

I'd just be more curious to see if someone like Thawne could instantly see through Hit's time whammies, or if they'd still be effective.



If Goku can act through it, there's no real reason to think a Flash of Thawne's caliber can't, too.


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If Goku can act through it, there's no real reason to think a Flash of Thawne's caliber can't, too.
SSB Goku basically overpowered Hit's abilities, yes. But where energy projection is concerned, Thawne isn't Goku.

Like I said earlier, Thawne being able to counter Hit's time whammies in some way makes sense. My only question is how he'd go about it..?


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Stops you from moving. And, Dyspo btw is an enhanced fighter with Super speed. He isn't just some guy with super speed.


Mind showing me the scene of it in action, how it works etc

And Thawne could phase through Hit tbf

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So why can't Thawne counter it with his speed if Dypso did it?
Dyspo only 'beat' time-skip because he could hear the specific vibrational frequency Hit's muscles made just before he used the ability, and then used his "increase my speed thousands of times [to somewhere in the FTL range] in an instant" ability... Which Hit was obviously unaware of at first.

Once Hit realized what Dyspo was doing, he was able to counter(and beat the shit out of) him pretty easily.


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wouldnt that also mean that hit was tanking the equivalent of infinite mass punches from dyspo?

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SSB Goku basically overpowered Hit's abilities, yes. But where energy projection is concerned, Thawne isn't Goku.

Like I said earlier, Thawne being able to counter Hit's time whammies in some way makes sense. My only question is how he'd go about it..?


Flash's can speed steal/lend to energy though.


Honestly, Thawne is probably fast enough to visually see energy shifts.


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Mind showing me the scene of it in action, how it works etc



https://youtu.be/0hsFW1slwAc?t=9


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He has to even touch Thawne for that to work

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Basic TK trick. Thawne is way too fast for it.


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He has to even touch Thawne for that to work


Where do you see him touching anyone for it to work?


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Where do you see him touching anyone for it to work?


I mean goku would have to perceive Thawne first, secondly god power didn't control Broly it just stopped him.

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I mean goku would have to perceive Thawne first, secondly god power didn't control Broly it just stopped him.


Because he overcame it with brute force thawne ain't doing that. Also, Goku could perceive thawne by reading his chi signature. He doesn't need his eyesight.


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Because he overcame it with brute force thawne ain't doing that. Also, Goku could perceive thawne by reading his chi signature. He doesn't need his eyesight.


So Goku can keep up with Thawnes level of speeds? He has reactions on those levels?

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So Goku can keep up with Thawnes level of speeds? He has reactions on those levels?


Dyspo was said to be FTL and could boost his speed thousands of times. Hit with continuous improvement matched his speed. Continous improvement btw is just accelerated training. So, even if I'm generous and say Goku can't (which would make mo sense because Goku surpasses hit by the end of TOP) . Hit would just adapt to thawne speed.


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Chi in DC is compared to Magic it's something Lex speculated that could affect Superman.
Thawne doesn't utilize chi in that fashion, He uses negative speed force energy which Goku isn't perceiving imo

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Dyspo was said to be FTL and could boost his speed thousands of times. Hit with continuous improvement matched his speed. Continous improvement btw is just accelerated training. So, even if I'm generous and say Goku can't (which would make mo sense because Goku surpasses hit by the end of TOP) . Hit would just adapt to thawne speed.



Do you have any idea how slow ftl is to a Flash?


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