It's not whether or not it arbitrarily makes more sense to you, it's whether or not it's a coherent sentence.
You're presuming that parallell worlds necessarily has the same meaning as universe, it doesn't.
That said, the story repeatedly refers to universes as dimensions. This isn't my opinion, this is fact. And if the author was able to distinguish between universes and dimensional spaces he wouldn't have written it this way.
World's Funnest was originally written to be out of continuity.
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Even if you want to disregard that, it has since been retconned by contradiction since the implication is that he had killed Perpetua too.
Last edited by Astner on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 08:33 PM
Oh, But I guess google search disagrees with you, Which you can actually type the words "Parallel worlds" and it uses "Parallel universes" as synonymous substitutions.
WF, Like you said, WAS originally written to be non canon(And it not even was written in the comic). But Superman Reborn made it canon.
As for the contradiction, Comics always have a lot of contradictions in itself, But it doesn't mean out of continuity.
For example: In recent death metal issues, Darkfather's words contradicting the Final Crisis story. But it didn't mean DC retconned FC
BTW, Wasn't this scan also proving the dimensions in DC are more than 6? https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...61-inf%20d5.jpg
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Oct 2nd, 2020 at 08:51 PM
You're not reading what I'm writing. I said that it wasn't necessarily interchangeable.
But I'm not sure why you're still trying to defend this point. It's already lost. The writer uses the word dimensions to refer to universes, he's not talking about dimensional spaces.
You're scraping the bottom of the barrel for this one, aren't you?
No. It can not be the case that Mr. Mxyzptlk both killed Perpetua and didn't kill Perpetua. It either happened or it didn't happen.
And if you go by Snyder's story it couldn't have happened.
No, because it also refers to universes, or in this case a part of the universe.
Because it doesn't make sense in the context of this sentence.
And I don't know why you bring Perpetua, Who is nothing to do with WF or Superman Reborn. Those comics aren't written by Snyder. And even Snyder hasn't retconned those stories.
On the contrary, In recent Batman/Superman issue batmite said They've fought each other before. Plenty of times https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Ba...-1?id=176029#35
Further lends to the canonicity of WF
World's Funnest wasn't canon in the first place and there are no references to World's Funnest anywhere since its publication 20 years ago. And it is contradicted (retconned) by Snyder's stories.
No, because it doesn't specifically reference (or even allude to) that particular story.
Mr. Mxyzptlk and Batmite have fought in pretty much every comic they both appeared it. Take World's Finest #113, which was the first story to feature both characters.
No, It doesn't. You said "parallel worlds" doesn't necessarily mean " parallel universes" Then what do you think the "parallel worlds" was referring to in this sentence
Yes, WF is canon since all appearances of mxy is the same guy. Writer's intentions overruled by edics
Snyder's stories also didn't specifically reference (or even allude to) that particular story. So if you demanded me to give particular reference, Then why don't you give me your particular reference in Snyder's stories first?
Or just because the names of dimensions aren't related to the structure of dimensions? Since we actually get other higher numbers to refer other dimensions
For examples
Ultimator/10th dimension https://ibb.co/Tg0By6F
Or like I posted before, The zeroth dimension? https://i.ibb.co/HK75Njj/The-Green-...018-008-014.jpg
How many dimensions have we already gotten? I'm pretty sure the numbers are higher than 6
Like I said before. My point is the names of dimensions are nothing to do with the actual numbers in dc case
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Oct 3rd, 2020 at 10:11 AM
It doesn't matter what I think (just as it doesn't matter what you think) because we can't debate properly using a subjective standard.
It makes sense rhetorically, that's all that matters.
But to answer your question. I think it means planets, similar to how the Alternate Earths, specifically refers to the planets in Crisis on Infinite Earths.
What edict? Not once is it suggested that every licensed appearance of Mr. Mxyzptlk is canon. Mxyzptlk claiming that he's the same guy as in the cartoon or as merchandise has nothing to do with the canonicity of his comic appearances.
And even if it was World's Funnest is retconned by Snyder's contradiction.
They don't have to. All they have to do is to contradict it.
Because once it's contradicted only one event can be canon. Eliminating the older run.
Because it's not necessary. Newer stories weigh heavier than older stories when it comes to evidence. That's why newer events retcon older events and not vice versa.
Wait, So Mxy said he is the same guy, Which indicated what happened in WF is true. How did it not canonize WF?
Yeah, Newer stories weigh heavier than older one. So that's why Superman Reborn is weigh heavier than what the writer of wf intents.
Lol, I've already reat it. So I knew you'll argue ultimator is a story made up by mxy, I specifically picked this scan for you. How did a bio make up some story? https://ibb.co/Tg0By6F
It basically canonized ultimator and confirmed she isn't a mere story made up by mxy
No, What I mean is you using the wrong same logic. Appearantly in dc it doesn't count from 1 to 6. There are some numbers like 0 or fractions.
No, Mxy never said that. Actually he mentioned the opposite/higher numbers of dimensions
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Oct 3rd, 2020 at 03:01 PM
Pretty much. Dorkin's opinion on the story after the fact is irrelevant, when established continuity has consistently painted the picture that "Mxy is Mxy".
The fact that World's Funnest has recently been reprinted a couple different times in TPB/Omnibus form, in books that collect several other irrefutably canon stories, is also telling.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Oct 3rd, 2020 at 05:22 PM
It can't be canon because it contradicts what's established currently in DC. Let's not ignore that World's Funnest have never been specifically been referenced in relation to Hypertime. Hypertime, or "every story DC ever published happened in some sense," (which is a Pre-New 52 idea) does not mesh with what the writers are going with. And if you think Mr. Mxyzptlk can defeat Perpetua because "he technically did in World's Funnest," then you're wrong.
Like I've said, I'm fine with threating it like a separate story like Pre-retcon Secret Wars. But to use it to power-scale and conjecture ideas that contradict the current is dishonest.
Also how's Marvel's current cosmology relevant to Pre-retcon Beyonder?
Everything DC has published/will publish/even never publish（Dark multiverse）is canon.
This has been confirmed again and again since Convergence.
And, Doomsday Clock and Death metal still confirm it.
Only you can't accept it.
DC has published quite a few Dark Multiverse stories, in fact that's where Batman Who Laughs and Barbatos came from.
Convergence didn't confirm anything other than that the previous Crises happened, it didn't suggest that everything was canon.
And Doomsday Clock suggested the same, but exclusively for Superman.
No. It's actively contradicted it.
If there was sufficiently good evidence that would explain why writers work with a seemingly different idea from yours, then I'd accept it. But there isn't.
All the evidence posted in this thread that supports your idea of there being more than six dimensions (when it's made clear that there are only six) is extremely questionable, relying on retcons, cherry-picking, selective reading, PIS, etc. and I've already debunked half of the shit posted that you thought was worthwhile discussing.
Snyder is working on a completely different setting and story than the one you're imagining. This is the difference between canon and head-canon.
Last edited by Astner on Oct 9th, 2020 at 01:52 PM
there are at least trillions of dead multiverses in odex omniversa alone and infinite multiverses exist in dc, dc has a legit omniverse made up of infinite multiverses, marvel does not
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