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Yeah, that's not how it works. If they become states, they get their own new seats. If you really have a problem, you should be demanding the Carolinas and Dakotas and Virginias become single states each.

Your feelings don't matter here. See above. States get their own seats.

Who cares? Give them opportunity to vote again. Give Guam the chance too.



Are we even sure the votes were legit?


Because seriously, I can not overstate how bad these leaders are.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/...s-protests.html


Wouldn't put it past them to rig the vote, if this is representative of the leadership they're stuck with.


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Too bad Trump and Republicans didn't act this fast regarding the pandemic.


I'm a bit baffled by this, what were they supposed to do, realizing seperation of powers and federal and state powers......

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Okie dokie no statehood then.

Oh well.
Well your feelings don't matter and won't dictate anything should a Dem majority Congress pick it up as a measure in 2021. You won't like these facts.


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Well your feelings don't matter and won't dictate anything should a Dem majority Congress pick it up as a measure in 2021. You won't like these facts.


I honestly would welcome them being that openly desperate thumb up

See, you guys are dumb as f*ck and do not think through your actions. So by all means, do it. Make them states, pack the courts, etc.

One thing tho: you decide to get violent if the other side eventually does the same? That ends in tragedy. So be careful.


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Are we even sure the votes were legit?


Because seriously, I can not overstate how bad these leaders are.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/...s-protests.html


Wouldn't put it past them to rig the vote, if this is representative of the leadership they're stuck with.


I can't access, wants me to subscribe.


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I can't access, wants me to subscribe.



Ah, I'm blocking scripts to get around the message wall.



Wikipedia appears to have the story:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegramgate


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I honestly would welcome them being that openly desperate thumb up


You're already going "REEEEeeeeee!!11!" and we're just discussing a hypothetical, so I don't think you'll actually "welcome" it should it become a reality in 2021-4. You'll have meltdowns is the more likely outcome.


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You're already going "REEEEeeeeee!!11!" and we're just discussing a hypothetical, so I don't think you'll actually "welcome" it should it become a reality in 2021-4. You'll have meltdowns is the more likely outcome.


^I allow this pretend win


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Ah, I'm blocking scripts to get around the message wall.



Wikipedia appears to have the story:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegramgate


Oh yeah. PR definitely needs to become a state and be better represented and by better people.


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^I allow this pretend win


Okay Surt, you "welcome" PR and Guam becoming states. Cool, happy.


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How many times have they voted down statehood is someone gonna answer


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How many times have they voted down statehood is someone gonna answer


As noted "who cares, let them vote again." What you're doing is a silly distraction.

But if you're really curious, hyg: www.google.com


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Make them have to share some senators from another state tho.

Since no: the dems will not be allowed to add more seats to the senate like that.

And refresh my memory how many times has PR voted against statehood?


If they get a majority they’d be able to do it if they killed the filibuster. It would only require a simple majority and the territories voting in favor of becoming states.

PR is actually voting on this again in November.


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As far as Surt wanting Puerto Rico to "share" senators from other states, that would be against the Constitution as seen here:

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State. [U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 3, clause 1]"

So yeah, good luck changing that with your feelings Surt, should PR and/or Guam become states, as they should be.


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As far as PR goes there’s actually no guarantee they’d even vote for dem senators. They’re pretty socially conservative and may end up voting for republicans.


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I honestly would welcome them being that openly desperate thumb up

See, you guys are dumb as f*ck and do not think through your actions. So by all means, do it. Make them states, pack the courts, etc.

One thing tho: you decide to get violent if the other side eventually does the same? That ends in tragedy. So be careful.



You added to this post and I only got the first line initially-

Not thinking what through, angry guy? Sure, that would be great and the right thing to do as Puerto Rico and Guam citizens are effectively second-class citizens right now.

The only one talking violence here is you... What other territories do you feel should become US states that the Republicans would initiate?


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As far as PR goes there’s actually no guarantee they’d even vote for dem senators. They’re pretty socially conservative and may end up voting for republicans.



That's their right to do so as Americans, they're free to choose. I'm not a Trumper, so I don't feel Americans should have less rights because they might vote differently than me.


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As for the question of how they’ve voted in the past on this. In 2012 54% voted against maintaining the status quo. Of those people 61% chose statehood.

In 2017 another vote was held. It had very low turnout but statehood got 97% of the vote.

And as I said they will be voting again in November and this will be the first time that a simple “yes” or “no” vote will occur. The previous votes all had multiple options.


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Still waiting on your answer to my last reply to you . Whenever you're ready

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