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You still feel the same? He’s a ****ing failure and so is his administration.


He's not living up to the promises. But he was handed a complete shitshow after Trump's four disastrous years and utter mishandling of the pandemic. So while I'm sure there was someone better, it certainly wasn't Trump for a 2nd term.

This was also predicted back in late 2017, Trump would wreck the economy with his incompetence and feed-the-rich polices and then whichever Dem took over in 2021 would get blamed. Which is par for the course. eg Obama got blamed by the Right for the 2008 crash repercussions. Clinton got blamed for Bush Sr shotshow and recession.


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^ His popularity is sinking for sure.

They should stop screwing over Bernie every time. Democrats seem to think that Biden was the safe bet to beat Trump, but there's no point in just kicking Trump out to let him back in 4 years later.

Bernie would have been a secure victory. After 4 years of him giving back to the people, there's no way his popularity would sink like this and no way he'd be voted out next election.

But that's the past, Biden needs to step up with some radical reforms via executive orders to win people back. Reforms which help people of course. And yes he needs executive orders. Quit acting like he can't do anything because of Joe Manchin.
Sanders wouldn't have gotten anything done.

The two parties go like this: Democrats set up a government programme based on public opinions for them to profit off of, and Republicans lower taxes for their own established corporations to profit off of.

Sanders won't get any of his policies through unless a majority of Democrats think they can profit out of them and the Republicans will call him a socialist and argue that the Democrats were stealing their tax and the profit from the programme causing a Republican majority in midterm if not before due to forced resignation of Democrats. Nor would he have won the election in the first place.

Biden was pulling Obama's strings like Cheney was pulling Bush's strings. Now I don't know who's pulling Biden's strings, possibly Hillary from behind the scenes.


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That's why the Trump election steal was such a big loss. Nobody pulled his strings and he acted on behalf of the people.


Most honest president since Honest Abe.


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That's why the Trump election steal was such a big loss. Nobody pulled his strings and he acted on behalf of the people.


Most honest president since Honest Abe.


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That's why the Trump election steal was such a big loss. Nobody pulled his strings and he acted on behalf of the people.


Most honest president since Honest Abe.
The most authoritarian president in U.S. history... whereas Trump couldn't even use his twitter account...


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Sanders wouldn't have gotten anything done.

The two parties go like this: Democrats set up a government programme based on public opinions for them to profit off of, and Republicans lower taxes for their own established corporations to profit off of.

Sanders won't get any of his policies through unless a majority of Democrats think they can profit out of them and the Republicans will call him a socialist and argue that the Democrats were stealing their tax and the profit from the programme causing a Republican majority in midterm if not before due to forced resignation of Democrats. Nor would he have won the election in the first place.

Biden was pulling Obama's strings like Cheney was pulling Bush's strings. Now I don't know who's pulling Biden's strings, possibly Hillary from behind the scenes.



Sanders would do whatever he could via executive orders.

And hes well intentioned to help the people.

But he wont run again. So all we are left with from the left is AOC who wouldnt get stuff done.


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That's why the Trump election steal was such a big loss. Nobody pulled his strings and he acted on behalf of the people.


Most honest president since Honest Abe.



Ha! Good one

Didnt realise you were this funny cdtm!

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Sanders would do whatever he could via executive orders.

And hes well intentioned to help the people.

But he wont run again. So all we are left with from the left is AOC who wouldnt get stuff done.





Ha! Good one

Didnt realise you were this funny cdtm!
That's assuming the Senate doesn't pass a law to make the order virtually ineffective. Biden very narrowly just managed 50 seats.


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Sanders would do whatever he could via executive orders.


Which would immediately be challenged in court by Republicans, which would then go before Republican-appointed judges to be adjudicated. See the federal vaccine mandates Biden tried to enforce for how that will work out.


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Sanders would do whatever he could via executive orders.

And hes well intentioned to help the people.

But he wont run again. So all we are left with from the left is AOC who wouldnt get stuff done.


That would be an anti-libertarian stance I would think.

At least the strict libertarians, who would look at a kid dying of brain cancer with a 90% cure rate, with parents who refuse to allow their son to undergo the medical procedure, and call child protective services stepping in as a broad overreach, on account of the fact any policy used to force medical procedure's to save a life can equally be used for genocidal purposes.

And they'd have a fair point, which would get ignored. They never ask "how can this be used against me", all they see is immediate black and white outcomes, and shift their beliefs according to whatever is good or bad in the moment ("It's all relative" is one of the worst phrases in politics.)


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Didnt realise you were this funny cdtm!


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Which would immediately be challenged in court by Republicans, which would then go before Republican-appointed judges to be adjudicated. See the federal vaccine mandates Biden tried to enforce for how that will work out.



Because thats about personal rights. Im talking about things like Medicare for All, Government backed Furlough schemes during Covid, Green New Deal, Student debt write offs.

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Because thats about personal rights. Im talking about things like Medicare for All, Government backed Furlough schemes during Covid, Green New Deal, Student debt write offs.


Are you new? Republicans are reflexively against anything Democrats are for, even if they would benefit, because the goal is not governance, it is denying Democrats a win. You have to be living on another planet to think that Republicans would oppose executive orders on vaccine mandates, but would totally support them for the Green New Deal or student debt relief.


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Are you new? Republicans are reflexively against anything Democrats are for, even if they would benefit, because the goal is not governance, it is denying Democrats a win. You have to be living on another planet to think that Republicans would oppose executive orders on vaccine mandates, but would totally support them for the Green New Deal or student debt relief.


Basically this. Since the Teaparty 'grass roots' (allegedly) movement, partisan polarization is the new cool thing.

Maybe if some first president had warned about how shitty two party systems were based on the awful record they had in England, we could have avoided this.

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That's why the Trump election steal was such a big loss. Nobody pulled his strings and he acted on behalf of the people.


Most honest president since Honest Abe.


This has to be satire.

Trump was always at the behest of fellow strong men (as an admirer), big money goons, and the replacement Swamp for the swamp he claimed to want to drain.

Speaking of Trump's amazing successes, let's look at his campaign promises.

1. Wall did not get built. A shady as **** company which got Trump's infant-like attention gobbled up millions of taxpayer dollars to do a shit job replacing/remaking parts of the existing border. Mexico did not pay for it.

2. The swamp did not get drained so much as replaced with different scum. Since Trump is surrounded at all times by his Purge-actors-without-masks family and patsies, he needed to fill positions with cronies that already know politics, as well as giving some people who aren't qualified positions anyways (like Betsy DeVos, someone who never even went to a public school ffs).

3. Lock her up. Whups.

4. Make the miners of West Virginia work their asses off. So much for that.

5. Make America Great Again. Well, he certainly made conservatives FEEL great again, because his entire platform (and by extension theirs) is just about saying **** you to Libtards. Actual progress, dialogue, human interest, or growth of a country (or unity) is besides that point.

So did I miss anything? Did Trump do anything for the people rather than for his own vanity, self-interest, or the interest of people he admires because their hands are bigger?

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Basically this. Since the Teaparty 'grass roots' (allegedly) movement, partisan polarization is the new cool thing.

Maybe if some first president had warned about how shitty two party systems were based on the awful record they had in England, we could have avoided this.
That was the plan. laughing out loud


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Basically this. Since the Teaparty 'grass roots' (allegedly) movement, partisan polarization is the new cool thing.

Maybe if some first president had warned about how shitty two party systems were based on the awful record they had in England, we could have avoided this.



This has to be satire.

Trump was always at the behest of fellow strong men (as an admirer), big money goons, and the replacement Swamp for the swamp he claimed to want to drain.

Speaking of Trump's amazing successes, let's look at his campaign promises.

1. Wall did not get built. A shady as **** company which got Trump's infant-like attention gobbled up millions of taxpayer dollars to do a shit job replacing/remaking parts of the existing border. Mexico did not pay for it.

2. The swamp did not get drained so much as replaced with different scum. Since Trump is surrounded at all times by his Purge-actors-without-masks family and patsies, he needed to fill positions with cronies that already know politics, as well as giving some people who aren't qualified positions anyways (like Betsy DeVos, someone who never even went to a public school ffs).

3. Lock her up. Whups.

4. Make the miners of West Virginia work their asses off. So much for that.

5. Make America Great Again. Well, he certainly made conservatives FEEL great again, because his entire platform (and by extension theirs) is just about saying **** you to Libtards. Actual progress, dialogue, human interest, or growth of a country (or unity) is besides that point.

So did I miss anything? Did Trump do anything for the people rather than for his own vanity, self-interest, or the interest of people he admires because their hands are bigger?

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How's the weather in your partisan bubble Stealth Moose?


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How's the weather in your partisan bubble Stealth Moose?


I'm not for false dichotomies. My political views vary because reality has nuance, and going full one party logic is letting other people do the critical thinking for you, so I'm not a fan.

That being said, conservatives have hit new lows in the last decade in the US, and I'm happy to call them out on it. The conservative movement in the country is built on a strong bedrock of fear mongering, and this fear is what motivates a lot of the ideology. It's why changes to traditional values are routinely attacked, why foreigners are demonized, why older people are revered, and why security is important. You see a conservative, you know there's a strong chance he hates people different from him and wants a gun to protect himself from them. Even if they are such gross dangers as effeminate pseudo-communists at their local Starbucks. These conservatives don't know their history, and only receive a cherry picked version of it, same as they do their Bibles, and therefore fall to the same traps that the masses of the early twentieth century did in Europe. All you need to do to bring afraid people to heel is tell them the other guy is coming for them, and only you can bring them safety and security. They will cry for such a savior at the expense of all liberties, happiness, and unity.

So tell me:

How's it going over in your partisan bubble?


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Have you watched a Joe Biden speech? I have, and it's like seeing an engine go for a minute and sputter then stall. Joe Biden is not fit for office. He's picked fights we simply can't win, and said things insanely damaging to US Foreign policy.

Claiming we will defend Taiwan with military force is INSANE. Claiming Russia?needs a regime change and doubling down on it is insane. Alienating the Saudi's in an energy crisis is insane.

The U.S. might really collapse in three more years of Biden. Nixon or Trump would know better then to provoke EVERYONE


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I wonder if the sudden influx of illegal immigration has contributed to the rise in prices? The Biden administration seems to have planned on placing a strain on healthcare, schools, housing and several other things that I am not yet aware of. If a good plan is in play, why destroy it? From what I heard, illegal aliens are being privately flown from several locations to random states where they will not be deported even if they do not have the proper paperwork the be in the US period, which is a growing concern for immigration, while Kamala Harris claims to have checked on the situation an entire 3 times since Biden has been in office. Gee, a whole three times. This is the exact same issue that she laughed about of public television. Every member of that administration needs to be replaced for the crooked direction that they are taking this country.


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He's not living up to the promises. But he was handed a complete shitshow after Trump's four disastrous years and utter mishandling of the pandemic. So while I'm sure there was someone better, it certainly wasn't Trump for a 2nd term.

This was also predicted back in late 2017, Trump would wreck the economy with his incompetence and feed-the-rich polices and then whichever Dem took over in 2021 would get blamed. Which is par for the course. eg Obama got blamed by the Right for the 2008 crash repercussions. Clinton got blamed for Bush Sr shotshow and recession.


Are you sure that you are seeing this clearly? It appears that the moment that the Biden Administration took the reins, they purposely crashed the sleigh. COVID was not Trumps doing, that shit came from a lab in Wuhan China located mere blocks away from their wet markets. Monkey Pox is allegedly being rumored to have origins linked to that very same lab as well. Hmmmm.

Meanwhile, the seemingly deliberate sabotage of our economy appears to have woefully affected the entire planet. However, Biden seems to be leading the charge in ushering in E-cars as the standard. It has become increasingly difficult for many Americans to let him off the hook while rent, gas, food prices and inflation have broken through the ceiling, and yet his chief concern seems to be centered upon sending other countries billions, while ignoring the flaming bag of dog shit on his doorstep.

Are E-cars the answer? Are we ready for everyone to be driving them? Our antiquated infrastructure will tell another tale. Black-Outs anyone….? No need to respond.

Did you like the flavor of that? Let’s try another for shits and giggles.

He appears to want to flood the country with more people than are legally allowed to be here. This of course will negatively impact the country for an as of yet undetermined period of time due to the record number of people that are illegally entering a border with its doors wide open. Wide f@%king open.

Want to guesstimate on how much in tax payers dollars will spent due to this half baked empty headed scheme? Attempting to sell sand in the desert is great, the only challenge that you’ll likely run into, is finding someone willing to buy.


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Are you sure that you are seeing this clearly? It appears that the moment that the Biden Administration took the reins, they purposely crashed the sleigh. COVID was not Trumps doing, that shit came from a lab in Wuhan China located mere blocks away from their wet markets. Monkey Pox is allegedly being rumored to have origins linked to that very same lab as well. Hmmmm.

Meanwhile, the seemingly deliberate sabotage of our economy appears to have woefully affected the entire planet. However, Biden seems to be leading the charge in ushering in E-cars as the standard. It has become increasingly difficult for many Americans to let him off the hook while rent, gas, food prices and inflation have broken through the ceiling, and yet his chief concern seems to be centered upon sending other countries billions, while ignoring the flaming bag of dog shit on his doorstep.

Are E-cars the answer? Are we ready for everyone to be driving them? Our antiquated infrastructure will tell another tale. Black-Outs anyone….? No need to respond.

Did you like the flavor of that? Let’s try another for shits and giggles.

He appears to want to flood the country with more people than are legally allowed to be here. This of course will negatively impact the country for an as of yet undetermined period of time due to the record number of people that are illegally entering a border with its doors wide open. Wide f@%king open.

Want to guesstimate on how much in tax payers dollars will spent due to this half baked empty headed scheme? Attempting to sell sand in the desert is great, the only challenge that you’ll likely run into, is finding someone willing to buy.
I guess you won't be watching the Jan 6th hearings then Stoic?

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I guess you won't be watching the Jan 6th hearings then Stoic?


What does that have to do with what he said?


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