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No Hell below us, above us only sky

Jews agree with Lennon, so did Jesus.

The vast majority of these people naturally assume this is what Jesus himself taught. But that is not true. Neither Jesus, nor the Hebrew Bible he interpreted, endorsed the view that departed souls go to paradise or everlasting pain.

Unlike most Greeks, ancient Jews traditionally did not believe the soul could exist at all apart from the body. On the contrary, for them, the soul was more like the “breath.” The first human God created, Adam, began as a lump of clay; then God “breathed” life into him (Genesis 2: 7). Adam remained alive until he stopped breathing. Then it was dust to dust, ashes to ashes.

Ancient Jews thought that was true of us all. When we stop breathing, our breath doesn’t go anywhere. It just stops. So too the “soul” doesn’t continue on outside the body, subject to postmortem pleasure or pain. It doesn’t exist any longer.

The Hebrew Bible itself assumes that the dead are simply dead—that their body lies in the grave, and there is no consciousness, ever again. It is true that some poetic authors, for example in the Psalms, use the mysterious term “Sheol” to describe a person’s new location. But in most instances Sheol is simply a synonym for “tomb” or “grave.” It’s not a place where someone actually goes.


https://time.com/5822598/jesus-really-said-heaven-hell/

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U been drinking bruv?


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Wrong and wrong again, pooty.


Jeez, you sure are wrong a lot. You are probably the person who has been the most wrong ever on the forum.


One wrong statement after another. Just wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong again... being wrong is just a constant and neverending process with you lol.


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Please actually read the bible, Old Man Whirly.

I mean, I don't have the time to do all of the actual hard work for you. So I'll give you just a few examples of why you are wrong:


"But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” (Luke 23:43)

"While he was going and they were gazing up toward heaven,
suddenly two men in white robes stood by them. They said,
“Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up toward heaven?
This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will
come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:11)

"The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried" (Luke 16:22).

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The ignorance of the three posters below my first post is hilarious. Triggered by facts.

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Surtur & eThneoLgrRnae lived in a constant state of triggered by their ignorance.

That sock is clearly a poster that knows you, but was too much of a sissy coward to retort under their main account for fear of looking like a dunce.


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Surtur & eThneoLgrRnae lived in a constant state of triggered by their ignorance.

That sock is clearly a poster that knows you, but was too much of a sissy coward to retort under their main account for fear of looking like a dunce.
I read Surts meltdown earlier, I'd never read the cause before and wasn't really any part of it. "Black Superman and Coates triggered him... crazy

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I mean, it's an interesting post.

I'm just not sure of the historical accuracy of it.

But it would be entirely unsurprising if "heaven" and "hell" were much later additions to the lore, so to speak.


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Weren't Surtur and ethneo veterans who suffered injuries during Iraq time and tried to be buddies with Impedement who, actually has a legit disability from combat?


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I mean, it's an interesting post.

I'm just not sure of the historical accuracy of it.

But it would be entirely unsurprising if "heaven" and "hell" were much later additions to the lore, so to speak.
it's spot on historically.

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Weren't Surtur and ethneo veterans who suffered injuries during Iraq time and tried to be buddies with Impedement who, actually has a legit disability from combat?
don't think so. I think ethneo was a Jonah figure, didn't every ship he was on sink like uncle Albert in only fools and horses.

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don't think so. I think ethneo was a Jonah figure, didn't every ship he was on sink like uncle Albert in only fools and horses.
He still managed to get to Holland though.


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