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DarkSaint85
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Originally posted by Sin I AM
Issue?


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Now, I agree that Forget is above BW in power and that really can't be denied but...

Creating something still isn't a combat feat.

He can create all the multiverses he wants and it still not be an attack.it just isn't. So the logic is faulty.

Unless he creates a multiverse and drops it on him?

Regardless, they both operate at different tiers and have little to no actual feats to go off of, so I would say Forger should win this. But not because he "created" something.

Forger: stand by for my special attack CREATING A MULTIVERSE!!!

BW: ok? So we gonna fight?

Forger: We are! I have created a multiverse at you! And another! And another! Multiverses everywhere!

BW: oooook *self bfrs*


The thing is, when he creates a multiverse, it shatters reality.
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And he was diminished there.

AND he can redirect that energy.


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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Now, I agree that Forget is above BW in power and that really can't be denied but...

Creating something still isn't a combat feat.

He can create all the multiverses he wants and it still not be an attack.it just isn't. So the logic is faulty.

Unless he creates a multiverse and drops it on him?

Regardless, they both operate at different tiers and have little to no actual feats to go off of, so I would say Forger should win this. But not because he "created" something.

Forger: stand by for my special attack CREATING A MULTIVERSE!!!

BW: ok? So we gonna fight?

Forger: We are! I have created a multiverse at you! And another! And another! Multiverses everywhere!

BW: oooook *self bfrs*

He was going to shatter entire reality even in his weakened state if not for a special room just to swing his hammer.


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Oh goddamn abhi and darksaint, I already said he wins. It's just a damn joke. Don't make me create a multiverse at you

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AM of course had to consume multiple universes to contend with Darkseid, so that's a good point.

OTOH, Galactus was consuming multiple planets to contend with BW.

Yes yes blah blah they were special planets etc etc. But planets, Vs universes?


AM consumes the residual energies of the dead from planets he devastates.

https://ibb.co/RPrqWdv

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Nope, he destroyed the universe as per Death Metal.

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The thing is, when he creates a multiverse, it shatters reality.
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And he was diminished there.

AND he can redirect that energy.


So BW is going to sit there and wait for WF to complete his "touchy work"?

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Nope, he destroyed the universe as per Death Metal.

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Your scan says "world".

https://ibb.co/H23JWq0

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Or he just smashes his hammer down and doesn't redirect it.


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Or he just smashes his hammer down and doesn't redirect it.


He does that repeatedly before getting KOed

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Your scan says "world".

https://ibb.co/H23JWq0

It also said universe when broken corrects itself.


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He does that repeatedly before getting KOed


Durability feats for BW?


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It also said universe when broken corrects itself.


It doesn't say that in reference to the New 52.

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if Black Winter is a dc villain he would be c list garbage
but because he's a thor villain, universal threat become omniversal threat, the wankage is cringey

WF was shown to create infinite multiverse with higher dimensional realms, but apparently there's an argument to be had here?


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He was going to shatter entire reality even in his weakened state if not for a special room just to swing his hammer.



Sounds like Reed Richards.


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It doesn't say that in reference to the New 52.

It does. Anyway Rebirth Anti Monitor just destroyed an infinite multiverse in Death Metal and succeeded where even COIE anti Monitor failed.
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Sounds like Reed Richards.

Wut?


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He does that repeatedly before getting KOed
the output from WF is infinitely greater in destruction than what was needed to destroy BW. WF wins this. Think how he grabbed barbatos in the 6th dimension. This is spite. WF destroys.

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the output from WF is infinitely greater in destruction than what was needed to destroy BW. WF wins this. Think how he grabbed barbatos in the 6th dimension. This is spite. WF destroys.


Perpetua is exponentially more powerful than WF and destroying a single universe depletes her. BW casually destroys universes.

https://ibb.co/YbTRscF

What does WF's output destroy? And Barbatos killed WF.

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I've read it. Where does it state he was never a mutie


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Oh yeah, you then need FF26


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