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Diesldude
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Perpetua is exponentially more powerful than WF and destroying a single universe depletes her. BW casually destroys universes.

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What does WF's output destroy? And Barbatos killed WF.

so I see you�re back with the lowballing. Was she at full power? Low feat because of a dummy writer lol. Mxy casually destroys and recreates everything and she�s above him.

Wf can destroy realities with a hammer strike and you said she is exponentially stronger than WF but also believe that lowball writer screwup is the norm. So which is it?

Barbatos defeated wf outside of the 6th dimension. Wf and the brothers are not at full power outside. So that shows you how powerful barbatos is and it is nothing to wf in the 6th dimension. Barbatos destroys universe easier than bw and it�s laughably insignificant to WF in the 6th dimension just like BW would be.

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
Perpetua is exponentially more powerful than WF and destroying a single universe depletes her. BW casually destroys universes.

https://ibb.co/YbTRscF

What does WF's output destroy? And Barbatos killed WF.

Because they are not universal. They didn't even want her there. They could have easily killed her of they were multiversal and she was only Universal. World Forger is a good creator, just like Reed Richard's, Doom, etc... but WF lack fts.

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so I see you�re back with the lowballing. Was she at full power? Low feat because of a dummy writer lol. Mxy casually destroys and recreates everything and she�s above him.

Wf can destroy realities with a hammer strike and you said she is exponentially stronger than WF but also believe that lowball writer screwup is the norm. So which is it?

Barbatos defeated wf outside of the 6th dimension. Wf and the brothers are not at full power outside. So that shows you how powerful barbatos is and it is nothing to wf in the 6th dimension. Barbatos destroys universe easier than bw and it�s laughably insignificant to WF in the 6th dimension just like BW would be.

That dummy writer is Scott Snyder, who is Perpetua's creator. And she is at full power.

Nov 22nd, 2020 01:01 AM

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That dummy writer is Scott Snyder, who is Perpetua's creator. And she is at full power.

She isn't. Also Anti Monitor destroyed infinite universes in Dark Multiverse. I like how you skirt away from that.

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She wasn't at full power but she admitted she was almost at complete power. A small percentage wouldnt have put her at multiversal.

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Nov 22nd, 2020 04:02 AM

abhilegend
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Multiverse actually resists when a universe is destroyed.

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She has to destroy universe so that it doesn't comes back again.

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That still doesn't take away from her taxing her power destroying a SINLGE universe and her being far more powerful than World Forger and Anti-Monitor.

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Nov 22nd, 2020 05:38 AM

abhilegend
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Of course it does. And explains how Anti Monitor destroyed infinite universes just fine, twice.

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WF murderstomps.
WF is stronger than AM.

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She isn't. Also Anti Monitor destroyed infinite universes in Dark Multiverse. I like how you skirt away from that.

Was this recent? I mean your statement about the Anti-Monitor. How does that place him above the Black Winter who was also seen casually destroying an alternate universe that appeared be from the DC Universe? If I he can casually wipe out an entire Universe what stops him from wiping out multiple Universes? Wasn't it stated that he had destroyed others? Not seeing how World Forger, or his brothers are above this level. If anything, they seem to be in the very same weight class.

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That dummy writer is Scott Snyder, who is Perpetua's creator. And she is at full power.

anyone can have a brain fart especially for the story build up. But it doesn�t matter, she wasn�t at full power.

She created WF, WF created Barbatos and barbatos destroys universes for a living. We saw how small he was to WF.

Nov 22nd, 2020 12:02 PM

abhilegend
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Was this recent? I mean your statement about the Anti-Monitor. How does that place him above the Black Winter who was also seen casually destroying an alternate universe that appeared be from the DC Universe? If I he can casually wipe out an entire Universe what stops him from wiping out multiple Universes? Wasn't it stated that he had destroyed others? Not seeing how World Forger, or his brothers are above this level. If anything, they seem to be in the very same weight class.

Yes, it's recently happened. Dark nights death metal trinity crisis.

Seriously? Black Winter destroyed one universe, Anti Monitor has now destroyed multiverse twice and you think they are on the same level?

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Yes, it's recently happened. Dark nights death metal trinity crisis.

Seriously? Black Winter destroyed one universe, Anti Monitor has now destroyed multiverse twice and you think they are on the same level?

Scans? Specific issue #?

Nov 22nd, 2020 02:41 PM

abhilegend
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Scans? Specific issue #?

Dark Nights death metal trinity crisis and Dark nights death metal 4.

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Anti Monitor entered multiverse created specifically to recreate COIE and destroyed it completely.

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anyone can have a brain fart especially for the story build up. But it doesn�t matter, she wasn�t at full power.

She created WF, WF created Barbatos and barbatos destroys universes for a living. We saw how small he was to WF.

She has all but a fraction of her power and compares what she is able to do now to what she was able to do before. If she is drained to that point at at least 90 or 95% power, she would pretty much be drained to that point at 100%.

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Durability feats for BW?

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by TheHulkster
She has all but a fraction of her power and compares what she is able to do now to what she was able to do before. If she is drained to that point at at least 90 or 95% power, she would pretty much be drained to that point at 100%.

https://ibb.co/kmPdpQg

Why are you ignoring that multiverse resists destruction of its universes?

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Multiverse actually resists when a universe is destroyed.

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She has to destroy universe so that it doesn't comes back again.

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TheHulkster
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Dark Nights death metal trinity crisis and Dark nights death metal 4.

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Anti Monitor entered multiverse created specifically to recreate COIE and destroyed it completely.

So you have an alternate COIEs where he actually wins. We see in the original COIE that he uses tech. So he apparently uses this tech successfully in this alternate one

Nov 22nd, 2020 03:18 PM

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So you have an alternate COIEs where he actually wins. We see in the original COIE that he uses tech. So he apparently uses this tech successfully in this alternate one

Except we don't see him using any tech there...

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