I personally find it hard to accurately rate Drax's strength, because while he does have a few strength feats of his own (like tearing that drone in half, ragdolling some fodder, his fight with Korath), none of it really stands out that much compared to most MCU characters who also have super strength. Honestly, his most impressive strength feat IMO is from this scene in GotG 1, where he was able to pin Gamora down with one arm, and pretty casually too from the looks of it:
Because, as we know, Gamora herself is pretty strong:
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But that still doesn't give us a good indication of upper limit. The best we can say is he's weaker than Ronan. But considering we don't know what Ronan's actual upper strength limit is either, that still doesn't tell us all that much.
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I wouldn't really call that a loss. Tony cut it short, and while like did send cap flying a few times, he was still reacting and grunting to being punched and kicked in the face
First Kurse is stronger than Thanos (not less than or equal).
Second, Vision is about as strong as IM (not as strong as Thor without feats to back it up)
Those are the only 2 problems. Everything else appears ok.
I compare Hulk/Thanos/Kurse with how Thor reacted to hits to his face from them. How injured/dazed he was and how many punches it took to get him there.
Essentially, the Sakaar, Endgame and Dark World fight between each one and Thor.
Of the 3, Thanos managed to bloody and daze Thor with the fewest hits (3) and did appears to be the most injury followed by Kurse with (4) with some cuts to the face. With Hulk way behind with a multitude of hits w/c dazed Thor but in the end Thor mostly shrugged it all off with no visible injury that I can see.
Removed all the non-face hits/kicks to body. This is mostly reaction to face hits (or what appears to be close to it like the boulder hit).
The 3 are peers (tho Hulk would be noticeably the lowest) but the order I would put them would be Thanos > Kurse > Hulk.
OP says Thanos has to be the flat 10 score. So I followed that. If I was allowed to gauge them with decimal differences, I would put it at:
Thanos: 10. Kurse 9.75. Hulk. 9.
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-Counted from Thanos going 1 on 1 with Thor til Thor summoned Stormbreaker.
-Counted from Kurse and Thor engaging until after the boulder throw.
-Counted the entire Sakaar fight.
I am aware Kurse was ground and pounding Thor after the boulder hit (with no further damage showing to Thor). But in the interest of making this as apples to apples as possible I stopped counting as soon as the injuries showed. Also, there were 6 hits from Kurse vs Thor but I excluded 2 because there is a chance that they were body hits and not face hits (can’t tell for sure and couldn’t be bothered to view them multiple times in slo mo so I took them out to be fair).
Edit. Can’t be bothered to time stamp. Just watch them clips.
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When Thor fought Hulk in Ragnarok Hulk seemed to have a physical advantage. Thor needed to go into his lightning god mode.
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To be fair, that was an old, out of shape Thor that Thanos beat up. And Thor at that point was so out of it that he didn't even bother covering up which he at least attempted with Kurse.
Thanos also hit Thor while Thor’s head was against a rock and couldn't move away whereas Kurse was hitting Thor while Thor was free standing. This is why put Thanos and Kurse at the same level.
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If Cap's strongest hits could do nothing but make Loki grunt whereas Loki was sending Cap flying with every exchange, I think that's pretty clear that Cap was losing that fight in decisive fashion.
I look at other stuff like
Thanos slightly overpowering Thor in a contest of strength with stormbreaker (Thanos didn't seem wayyyy stronger). We cant be sure if Thanos was holding back because his face had some strain.
Thanos struggling a little with Cap (gauntlet scene).
Kurse knocking Mjolnir away like it was nothing (I don't see Thanos replicating that with the same power or more).
Kurse is just a little stronger than Thanos.
Imo the Kurse scene makes me believe that Kurse is significantly stronger than Thanos the way he knocked Thor away and how he easily stopped Thor's hand from advancing (like Thor was a child
Out of shape, sure. But this happened a few years after Infinity War. To someone as long lived as Thor the time passed would have been meaningless.
It's not a perfect metric, no. But it's as apples to apples as we can get.
Kurse actually had Thor (like I mentioned) in a ground and pound with his head directly pressed against the ground. No additional visible damage was done (altho Thor was more or less helpless at this point) and the cuts could be from Kurse's arm spikes when he backhanded Thor. And Thanos was hitting Thor with simple straights and jabs while Kurse was using full power punches. Lots of things can be argued that can skew the results.
However, like I said, comparatively. Thanos was doing more damage to Thor than either Hulk or Kurse with fewer strikes.
We can argue back and forth on subjective assesments on how each fight went and what counts more but in the end, this is the closest metric I can find so I'm going by it.
I'm not going to argue about who is stronger between Kurse/Thanos however since it is actually not clear cut. There is enough evidence to support either case. I'm just going by this because I am a big stickler for apples to apples.
You know that durability in fiction is variable (as well as strength).
Kurse hit Thor far harder because how far back Thor flew.
Thanos never hit Thor that far away, and with such ease.
Thanos also stomped Thor in his face with his foot (more powerful than a punch).
Thor almost Stalemating Thanos twice in a contest of strength.
Thanos struggling with Cap in a contest of strength.
Science aside, Kurse just appears to be significantly stronger than Thanos from those two scenes
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Their fight in Ragnarok proved Hulk is physically stronger. Thor is able to give him a fight, but ultimately Hulk wins unless Thor uses his other powers.
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