It's not Carver's insistence, it's what was on panel. No one cares if you don't like it, no one cares if you can't accept it.
Marvel Earth having two Suns doesn't fit into continuity but unless you became an Editor at Marvel, you don't really get a say on whether or not it counts.
If you want to argue that it doesn't make sense, that's ok. I also happen to agree it's a stupid scene that gets promptly ignored, but it doesn't matter that I think that. Feelings =/= feats.
Making fun of Carver and insisting it's not valid is idiotic. That's how silly you are. You have me defending Carver and Gladiator, which I really don't want to do.
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That's not new, StormBreaker has done it to BRB too. It was the enchantment. By its own admission the only time it awakened was when Jane was in danger of getting her secret revealed.
Yeah, that still does not makes it Jane galaxy level.
DC, by far. In Marvel Mjolnir gets melted by the sun, Hulk gets pinned down and prison raped by the weight of the sun, Surfer and BRB get plowed by a Black Hole than even Corsair and the rest survive, lol.
Meanwhile in DC, teenager half kryptonians go through Black Holes, Orion vaporizes solar systems while fighting and Hal plays pool with planets.
You'd have to be legitimate insane to think the Marvel characters operate anywhere near the top tiers in DC. In fact, the likes of Surfer don't even represent the high-herald tier in any way anymore, when there's plenty of high and even mid-heralds that arguably have greater raw power than him.
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Lmao, it always amazes me at how biased Philosophia is. I'm not sure why individuals with autism self-select into being Superman fans. It's always been a bit of a mystery.
Maybe it's the red tights, since Philosophia most likely wears diapers on the outside too.
That's how far I made it. Let's make this extra hard by sticking this only to Jason Aaron written comics, and using references only to Stellar masses. I.e. even if a feat noticeably superior to Solar level, such as Mjolnir surviving Big Bang energies, the death of a Universe, or the God Bomb, we won't count it. So basically extra extra hard.
We will break it down by the Mangog story-line as pre, current, and post as Sun interactions in Thor stories.
Pre-Mangog
1) Thor flies so fast, Stars flicker.
2) Three Thor's fight Gorr in a Sun.
3) Thor and Mjolnir fly into a black hole.
4) Mjolnir hurts, damages, scares and tanks the Phoenix in the same story it is made clear the bird can consume a Universe.
5) Mjolnir endures the fire of the Phoenix.
6) Mjolnir flies through a Star.
7) Mjolnir changes a flying Supernova into a regular Star.
During-Mangog 8) Mjolnir melts in the Sun.
9) Thor falls into the Sun and leaps from the Sun to Asgard.
Post-Mangog:
10) Thor hangs himself upside down on a portion of the World Tree on the Sun.
11) Mjolnir is reforged and flies from the Sun.
12) Thor spent millennia living in the heart of the Sun.
13) Mjolnir flies through the Sun.
14) Gorr traps Mjolnir in the Sun.
15) Mjolnir absorbs and throws three Suns at Gorr.
16) A half-dead dying Loki spends the rest of Eternity powering the last star in the Universe.
Those are all off the top of my head. All under JA I believe, and limited to stellar masses and showings not far above Solar level. Out of all those showings, Philosphoia referenced the bolded one.
How many times has Superman survived in the Sun? How many times has it been highlighted that he would not be able to or could die? Did he not recently say that the pressure near (not at) the Earth's core was nearly too much for him?
Now imagine I made the same post and said, "DC Heralds are weak, Superman can barely survive near the centre of the Earth etc."
It's a retarded post. I understand you feel a sense of comradeship because you probably buy your diapers from the same manufacturer as him, but think about things a little.
King Thor using mjolnir is hardly the same thing as Thor using mjolnir. Most of those you cite are alternate reality showings (and its a precedent set under Jurgens that Odinforce can make mjolnir stronger).
Also lol @ using flickering stars as a feat.
Mjolnir melted in the sun, it was a major plot point of a ****ing event, not some random Justice League showing where Superman was still the most powerful being on Earth and literally stalemated The Keeper who was moving entire timeline casually.
I did not mention a single alternate reality showing. Those were all written by Jason Aaron.
Under Jason Aaron, it's the same hammer, and is independent of the All-Father because of the Mother Storm.
Mjolnir did not melt in the War of Realms, even though a piece of it did. Soooo your argument is that something counts more when it's part of an event?
In War of the Realms, Thor used the Mother Storm to forge a new Mjolnir in the Sun, and it was undamaged.
Did Mjolnir get more durable during any of these events? Clearly not, hammer durability doesn't fluctuate with confidence. It was a plot point, but it was one of many. However, since it fits your narrative, it is referenced despite a large body of evidence contradicting it.
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DC heralds have always been weak sauce, even recently an amped Superman (fused with anti life cells) and Several main dc heralds including Prime hit everything with everything they've had and the planet doesn't break:
How abhi views Superman/DC HERALDS isn't how DC writers view them nor portrayed as.
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