I'm not saying that the genetics option is the only option. Just saying that it IS an option. Because of the lack of info it comes down to how you choose interpret the material we have been given.
If Snoke was as powerful as ROTJ Palpatine, then hed be just as good a vessel as Rey, if not better given his power would be actualised, wheras with Rey its mostly just potential.
Firstly I dont even know why a supernatural possession would require genetics.
I was simply trying to reconcile why Palpatine did not possess any of the Skywalker. It could simply be because theyd reject him.
But as far as genetics go, both Snoke and Rey share DNA with Palpatine. But neither is a 100% perfect clone.
Mutations shouldnt make a difference as long as a significant amount of Palpatines DNA is still there, like it is in Rey.
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Pretty obvious why Snoke's inferior genetics and being deemed an "UNNATURAL ABOMINATION" who was made when the cloners were simply "TRYING ANYTHING" to make a body for Sidious, could have rendered him obsolete for the task.
Because yeah, if the optimal "Sidious genetics" WEREN'T needed for him to body hop, then he would have just used Kylo. But if optimal genetics WERE needed in a host (even a temp host) then I could see why a creature like Snoke might not have been usable.
If flat-earthers and round-earthers have an argument, reasonableness and probability aren't split evenly between both opponents.
Parroting an idea as "possible!" is irrelevant and useless since no one here has disputed the fact that the idea is possible. What's being discussed is which idea is better, more possible, more plausible, more reasonable, better supported.
As demonstrated, the idea endorsed by myself, Dominis, Azronger, Darth_Thor, and now accepted by XPrimeX is the better idea. It doesn't mean your idea isn't possible. It means your idea isn't as good.
Well given Palpatine transferred his essence to a broken clone, I think theres nothing at all to back that idea.
Kylo had no genetic make up in common with Sheev at all. So saying OPTIMAL genetics were needed based on that is honestly a real stretch.
Genetics being a factor at all would be strange for a supernatural possession. Its more likely what Dominis says, that Sheev was looking for a powerful enough vessel, which is what the novel indicates Rey was.
Im guessing The Three Skywalkers probably would have resisted any possession. However with Snoke theres really no excuse at all because:
1) He likely had a good share of Sheevs genetic make up.
2) He was designed to be Sheevs lackey, so would not have resisted a possession.
So The only logical explanation for not using Snoke as a vessel is that he wasnt powerful enough a vessel for Sheev.
You're splitting hairs. I too have always agreed its possible that Snoke just wasn't powerful enough. All I have said is that other logical possibilities (like the genetic argument) exist.
But if you're saying that the genetic argument is indeed a possibility (even if you disagree with it), then we seem to agree.
GUYS WHY DONT WE FLOAT UP INTO THE SKY?
Us: Gravity.
Other people: A team of invisible magical unicorns are using their sorcery to keep us tethered to the earth.
You: Huh, those are two interesting explanations. Anything's possible!
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Not sure why you directed that at me.
Does it really bother you that much if I think the genetic argument is possible? It's almost like if someone doesn't "endorse" your stance completely, it upsets you. Strange.
So yes, I agree that both arguments are a possibility. Nitpicking the "tiers of possibility" like you're doing isn't something I'm interested in though.
Because it beautifully captures your thought process.
What's strange is that you think acknowledging the genetic compatibility angle as a possibility would upset me when literally everyone, myself included, repeatedly acknowledged it as a possibility already.
This is [or, rather, used to be] a debate forum, my son. Gathering facts and extrapolating theories from those facts and parsing which theories are more plausible than others is part and parcel of what is [or, rather, once was] done here.
Why didn't Sheev wear Snoke as a meatsuit?
Us: Snoke was too weak.
You: Or Snoke was too genetically dissimilar.
Us: Sure, but that's not as good of an explanation as ours. Here's why.
You: But it's a possibility.
Us: Sure, but our possibility is more probable. Here's why.
You: But it's a possibility.
Us: Right, but not all possibilities are equally plausible.
You: ..........but it possibleeeee......
Yours is a bizarre methodology for such discussions.
Snoke existed for decades before TROS, so what does TROS Sheev's power have to do with why he never wore Snoke as a meat suit in the decades before TROS?