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Well I mean I think it depends on how you are trying to rate and define culture.

Are you trying to take a person and define them by their culture to make yourself seem superior while ignoring the context of your personal character? If so I agree with your teacher.

Are you trying to come up with pros and cons of different national cultures to compare and contrast those unique characteristics and determine objective quality? Then that's probably an interesting thought experiment to do.

Often times though when I hear conservative groups use that word it's in the case of the former instead of the later.

Heck most of the conservatives I hear talking about this ignore that their conservative culture would often be more in line with the other cultures they would deem bad.


Lets assume we're talking about measuring contests based on culture.


Isn't there an inherent bias in the assumption that we are above that sort of thing? As in, we know how superior we are, so we have nothing to prove, and no reason to take offense when criticised by a foreigner?


I can guarantee other cultures most definitely compare play that game, all the time. An Indian room mate let me see a poem his friends sent him, calling India the jewel of the Eastern world, and all other asian countries as dung heaps (China, Japan, ect)


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Agreed, same with cultures that persecute people based on ethnicity, sexuality, sex & gender, etc.


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Lets assume we're talking about measuring contests based on culture.


Isn't there an inherent bias in the assumption that we are above that sort of thing? As in, we know how superior we are, so we have nothing to prove, and no reason to take offense when criticised by a foreigner?


I can guarantee other cultures most definitely compare play that game, all the time. An Indian room mate let me see a poem his friends sent him, calling India the jewel of the Eastern world, and all other asian countries as dung heaps (China, Japan, ect)
If you want my personal opinion. There is danger in assuming one's superiority over another based on where you are born or what culture you worn born into.

I also think there is a danger in placing one's own country on a pedestal. This often leads countries to engage in indoctrination and not allow themselves to properly judge themselves.

I also think people tend to over blow what they consider to be the superior aspects of their culture.

For instance America way overblows the idea it has the most free freedomest freeing country to ever free. It creates a false sense superiority.


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If you want my personal opinion. There is danger in assuming one's superiority over another based on where you are born or what culture you worn born into.

I also think there is a danger in placing one's own country on a pedestal. This often leads countries to engage in indoctrination and not allow themselves to properly judge themselves.

I also think people tend to over blow what they consider to be the superior aspects of their culture.

For instance America way overblows the idea it has the most free freedomest freeing country to ever free. It creates a false sense superiority.


I do agree boorish qualities are bad.


But pride in a country, is that so bad? If you can't love your country enough to advocate for it, then who can?


China, India, the U.K., or Russia certainly won't.


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I do agree boorish qualities are bad.


But pride in a country, is that so bad? If you can't love your country enough to advocate for it, then who can?


China, India, the U.K., or Russia certainly won't.
I would argue there is a difference in taking pride in oneself/work vs feeling yourself superior to another.


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I would argue there is a difference in taking pride in oneself/work vs feeling yourself superior to another.


I think they go hand in hand, but I get the point.


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I think they go hand in hand, but I get the point.
No they don't.

People like to think they do.

You can for instance acknowledge you are doing something really good while acknowledging other people are doing it just as well.

You can acknowledge you do something poorly while understanding someone does it better.

You're focusing on the part where you might do something better that because you feel you did something better it makes you superior.

That is not true. You doing something better doesn't inherently make you superior. It just means you did something better than someone else. You could still have major faults in other areas.

At the end of the day you can feel you do something well and still not think yourself better than another entity.


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Given what is happening in Afghanistan; people who think all cultures are equal are looking really stupid right about now.


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Given what is happening in Afghanistan; people who think all cultures are equal are looking really stupid right about now.
Going by your reasoning the Jan 6 retards from mainly red states are inferior to the blue state cultures...

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Going by your reasoning the Jan 6 retards from mainly red states are inferior to the blue state cultures...


What other cultures are inferior?

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What other cultures are inferior?
Personally I'd ask you to define culture. Then I'd ask why you wanted to apply equal standards instead of equitable standards. For instance a poor but strategic country that has been conquered for centuries and is know as the graveyard of empires can hardly have the same standards applied as a post colonial country based on wealthy European ideals, rich in natural resources. Where the indigenous people were systematically slaughtered and a lot of its wealth was built on slavery and trade with the nations that it's society is based on right down to its language. But that's me from the Culture that ruled more of the world than any other and only has a little more than the population of California, burnt your Whitehouse down. While inventing gulags, most founding Science and Engineering and is still referred to by the French as perfidious albion. Oh, we also mapped the Mason Dixon line because Americans couldn't do the maths with an s. smile

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Personally I'd ask you to define culture. Then I'd ask why you wanted to apply equal standards instead of equitable standards. For instance a poor but strategic country that has been conquered for centuries and is know as the graveyard of empires can hardly have the same standards applied as a post colonial country based on wealthy European ideals, rich in natural resources. Where the indigenous people were systematically slaughtered and a lot of its wealth was built on slavery and trade with the nations that it's society is based on right down to its language. But that's me from the Culture that ruled more of the world than any other and only has a little more than the population of California, burnt your Whitehouse down. While inventing gulags, most founding Science and Engineering and is still referred to by the French as perfidious albion. Oh, we also mapped the Mason Dixon line because Americans couldn't do the maths with an s. smile


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It's true, all cultures are not equal.

We have two options, continue with capitalism, or create equity. And I'm not sure which one works the best.


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That is why his entire objection is retarded. Cultures are not monolithic. A particular culture may be good in one area, and bad in another. Or might be measured on a continuum from bad to good across various human rights dimensions. Hell, we have wildly divergent attitudes in different geographic regions in this country. This is just more simple, black and white thinking from underdeveloped conservative minds.


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Well I mean I think it depends on how you are trying to rate and define culture.

Are you trying to take a person and define them by their culture to make yourself seem superior while ignoring the context of your personal character? If so I agree with your teacher.

Are you trying to come up with pros and cons of different national cultures to compare and contrast those unique characteristics and determine objective quality? Then that's probably an interesting thought experiment to do.

Often times though when I hear conservative groups use that word it's in the case of the former instead of the later.

Heck most of the conservatives I hear talking about this ignore that their conservative culture would often be more in line with the other cultures they would deem bad.


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