If God loved his creations, then he wouldn't create suffering and impose such absurdly strict rules on people.
If he sees being gay as evil, then why create gayness at all? Let alone make it an inherent characteristic of people, if burning eternally is the punishment. If being gay is contradictory of nature, that's because God made it that way. And don't blame it on the Devil — if God is all powerful, then he could simply make evil not exist. He is all-powerful, after all, isn't he?
The Abrahamic God, Sabaoth, is clearly able to be seen as either evil and malicious, or an blundering moron.
Isaiah 47:5: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
God created evil, he created satans (plural, as the concept of a singular 'Devil' is not an accurate reading of the Bible) to constantly test his children, and beset untold afflictions upon mankind for no good reason.
The Abrahamic God is the most absurd cartoon villain of all time. Either that, or he's essentially Azathoth, a sleeping idiot god thrashing around and creating vastly inconsistent and contradictory life by accident.
"Then, crushing what he chanced to mould in play,
The idiot Chaos blew Earth’s dust away."
Of course Sabaoth created evil, because he is evil. He is singularly responsible for all suffering. If he isn't, for argument's sake, then why let it exist? Why create a world so drastically imperfect that these things come about? And if he created humans, and humans did create evil, then Sabaoth created the potential for evil.
Are you saying that humans were able to create something that your God didn't envision? Isn't that a bit of a contradiction?
Also, in that assessment of the line from Isaiah: The word translated "evil" is from a Hebrew word that means "adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery." ... yeah, sounds like God created evil to me. Why create adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, and misery unless you are purposefully allowing suffering into the world, or unless you made a catastrophic mistake?
Sabaoth is either supremely evil or completely incompetent.
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Last edited by Scribble on Jan 6th, 2021 at 03:59 PM
Yeah, this article basically just proves what I'm saying. God created humans with the knowledge that he would 'have' to make 2/3 of them suffer for infinity. He didn't have to make Hell that torturous — he could have just made it so that the 'unworthy' simply die and disappear — but instead he invented a cruel and unusual punishment for beings he knew would receive it.
All so that he could be happy that a minority didn't. Sabaoth is a narcissistic psychopath. He has no love for anyone, other than himself. A self-satisfied, smug warlord unworthy of his titles. The only title he deserves is 'Evil One'.
Also I find it funny that in the article, the author admits that God can do nothing to stop humans from falling into Sin and 'betraying' him, which disproves the idea that God is All-Powerful. He is incapable of a lot of pretty simple things, it appears.
It's probably a lot harder to come to terms with the fact that your belief has made you a hateful person, contravening Jesus's teachings. So many Christians venerate Sabaoth and Paul, and ignore the red letters of Christ. You are not a Christian; you are an Abrahamite, or perhaps a Paulite. In fact, you barely ever mention Christ, but you talk about Sabaoth a lot, and have quoted Romans, which is the essential Paul text.
But sure, I'll read whatever you write, as long as it isn't book-length. I have better mystical texts to be studying in that case.
in the Bible, God does not need anything from anyone
"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;"
Acts 17:24-25
He is God from eternity to eternity
"Before the mountains were brought forth, and thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from eternity to eternity thou art God."
Psalms 90:2
His Godhood will not diminish without affirmations, and will not be supplemented with it
El.Oh.El. Deflections and denials. That's about all you can expect from the devout when you literally lay out evidence right in front of them. They instantly regress to the most childish retorts. Might as well say, "I know you are, but what am I?"