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The wars against ISIS are directly caused by the war in Iraq. It leads back to the first Gulf war, and even earlier, with the support for the Iranian revolution. But the Iraq war is really where it started.


Funny how direct opposition to war in the Middle East is being associated with Trump now, lol.


Yeah, I mean historically there are a lot of reasons, and all of these things are closely related. What I meant with Bush Jr. Iraq War is Operation Iraqi Freedom and the subsequent war there. And that power vacuum did indeed lead to ISIS, but ISIS does have to be opposed.

Yeah, it is pretty funny, especially given the way he often tried to present himself as being very tough. But I just think that is a popular Republican talking point right now "Trump didn't start any new wars". It's a bit simplistic, but the beauty of it is that it hits at something that Democrats pretend is important to them. It's a good troll, is what I mean. But the reality is that Trump wasn't particularly good for peace either.

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trump was pure shit when it came to needlessly provoking a middle east war/conflict, which was previously a right of every republican president since reagan.

he was obviously trying to start shit with iran, twice (that we know of). being a poor and clumsy advocate for war does not make one an excellent advocate for peace.


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Three months into Trump's presidency he launched nearly 60 missiles at Syria and his supporters were all "America, f**k ya!" gung ho about it. Weird how they're fearful of this new admin provoking wars now.


Just read that Iran is seemingly open to discussing a new nuclear deal with the Biden admin, which is great. I suspect it will come with a heavier price, considering the US broke the last deal.


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Biden rescinds keystone pipeline permit!

Four amazing things so far.

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Canada not too happy about that.


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U.S. is re-entering the Paris Climate Accord.

US is also re engaging with WHO.

Construction of the border wall will cease.

Three black marks from the last four years removed on the first day.


He signed 17 executive orders on his first day, right after the inaguration. Harris went to work immediately too, and swore in the three new Democratic Senators. What a difference having competent, hard-working people in charge makes.


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I know you're high on Republican tears rn, but you might want to re-evaluate what a 'Trumper' is


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Horse shoe theory confirmed. Emotional instability confirmed.


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He signed 17 executive orders on his first day, right after the inaguration. Harris went to work immediately too, and swore in the three new Democratic Senators. What a difference having competent, hard-working people in charge makes.


Yeah, I saw that, as well. A lot of good steps in that. I am cautiously optimistic.

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Three months into Trump's presidency he launched nearly 60 missiles at Syria and his supporters were all "America, f**k ya!" gung ho about it. Weird how they're fearful of this new admin provoking wars now.


Just read that Iran is seemingly open to discussing a new nuclear deal with the Biden admin, which is great. I suspect it will come with a heavier price, considering the US broke the last deal.
given the asterisk, this is still good news imo


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I know you're high on Republican tears rn, but you might want to re-evaluate what a 'Trumper' is


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oh dear.....


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oh dear.....
to say Trumpers are on the left is gaslighting at best tbh.

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for shame


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trump was pure shit when it came to needlessly provoking a middle east war/conflict, which was previously a right of every republican president since reagan.

he was obviously trying to start shit with iran, twice (that we know of). being a poor and clumsy advocate for war does not make one an excellent advocate for peace.



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Three months into Trump's presidency he launched nearly 60 missiles at Syria and his supporters were all "America, f**k ya!" gung ho about it. Weird how they're fearful of this new admin provoking wars now.


Just read that Iran is seemingly open to discussing a new nuclear deal with the Biden admin, which is great. I suspect it will come with a heavier price, considering the US broke the last deal.



And dont forget supporting Saudi to bomb Yemen.

Thats not anti-war. Not in any way shape or form.

He may have made out he was anti-war to get into power. But his record in the White House says very differently.

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And dont forget supporting Saudi to bomb Yemen.

Thats not anti-war. Not in any way shape or form.

He may have made out he was anti-war to get into power. But his record in the White House says very differently.
I was actually mear Riyadh Airport when the scuds were being fired back. My compound was 5 minutes away. Sidebar irrelevant fact.

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war is bad


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Canada not too happy about that.


I think you mean Alberta is not too happy about it.
And reading some comments within the Alberta sub-reddit, most of the blame is actually on the premier of Alberta.

Not alot of missiles are being thrown at the Prime Minister aside from the Premier of Alberta blaming him.

Yet...I'm not well ingrained in this topic, my understanding is that the Conserative party removed all initiatives set by the previous government on trying to diversify their economy away from oil...and then made a big bet that Trump would win a second term.

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war is bad


what is it good for?


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what is it good for?
is your Jersey accent like Springsteen's? Because I had his voice pop into my head reading that.

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that was an edwin star song, though,

close, but closer to ray liotta's accent.


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