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Keilar calls out Ted Cruz backpedaling on election challenge





When Cruz runs in 2024, his Republican competition will be rolling out the tapes.
I mean we knew Ted Cruz was a backpedaler for awhile. He only cares about riding the coattails of whatever will get him more power and influence.


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Do you really think that's all Trump would be capable of pulling if he ran under his own new 'Patriot Party'?


As a Republican he had a well oiled, highly experienced electoral machine behind him in 2016 and 2020. As an independent or another party it'd be interesting to see which, if any, Republican strategists would defect to him. If his election team would end up as incompetent as his legal team then it wouldn't bode well.


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As a Republican he had a well oiled, highly experienced electoral machine behind him in 2016 and 2020. As an independent or another party it'd be interesting to see which, if any, Republican strategists would defect to him. If his election team would end up as incompetent as his legal team then it wouldn't bode well.
I think quite a few would be willing to defect because of the money Trump's name generate from his followers.

It would be a very lucrative campaign for them.


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As a Republican he had a well oiled, highly experienced electoral machine behind him in 2016 and 2020. As an independent or another party it'd be interesting to see which, if any, Republican strategists would defect to him. If his election team would end up as incompetent as his legal team then it wouldn't bode well.


Were they incompetent?

I mean, legal wants to get paid. Giving the best legal advice in an absolutely doomed campaign your client insisted on waging is probably a net positive for them, as prospective clients will think "We can depend on them to stick by us, instead of abandoning us if the ship starts sinking".


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Legal teams also consider their reputations. Taking on unwinnable cases and putting mentally ill people on the stand to testify as key witnesses in hearings that would be broadcast around the world isn't really going to do you much good with future clients.


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Legal teams also consider their reputations. Taking on unwinnable cases and putting mentally ill people on the stand to testify as key witnesses in hearings that would be broadcast around the world isn't really going to do you much good with future clients.


If the client has integrity.

Plenty of fat cats out there who lack that. smile


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I think quite a few would be willing to defect because of the money Trump's name generate from his followers.

It would be a very lucrative campaign for them.


Presidential election campaigns are lucrative regardless. $14,000,000,000 in 2020.


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Legal teams also consider their reputations. Taking on unwinnable cases and putting mentally ill people on the stand to testify as key witnesses in hearings that would be broadcast around the world isn't really going to do you much good with future clients.



You're talking about Melissa Carone, right?


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Between January 6th and January 12th, about 4,600 Republicans changed their party status in Colorado, according to a CPR News analysis. There was no comparable effect with any other party. CPR News was able to contact dozens of them by tracking changes in the state's voter file.

The number of people changing parties spiked immediately after the Capitol breach. The same phenomenon is playing out nationwide. News outlets documented about 6,000 defections from the party in North Carolina; 10,000 in Pennsylvania; and 5,000 in Arizona.

Interviews and data analysis show how the tumultuous postelection period has created a new split within the Republican Party.

For some right-of-center voters, the violence at the Capitol was simply the final straw. They described an increasingly strained relationship with the GOP, with some citing the rise of Sarah Palin more than a decade ago as the first sign that the party was focusing on culture wars instead of fiscal conservatism.

Martin Lee Hussman, a well-connected resident of Alamosa in the southern part of the state, was previously a registered Libertarian but voted for Trump last November. As he watched the fallout of the riots, he decided that Democrats should hold power for the foreseeable future.

"Honestly, I think the Republican Party is dead. I don't think there's going to be a Republican Party in the next couple years," he said.

Other newly former Republicans had the opposite reaction: They cut ties with the party because they felt its leaders had abandoned Trump by blaming him for the riot and refusing to overturn the election.

In rural Weld County, 44-year-old Sara Ocker switched from Republican to unaffiliated and doesn't expect to vote again anytime soon, because she doesn't believe the elections are run fairly.

"We've all been living a lie and been told a lie," she said.

She hasn't spoken with her parents, who are Biden supporters, since the election. They see her as a QAnon conspiracy theorist, she said, but she thinks of herself as a skeptic who does her own research.

"The party's got to implode," she said.

The change has been especially pronounced in Colorado's politically competitive counties. In fact, nearly 800 of the switchers were in Douglas County, a Republican stronghold where the party has recently been losing strength—another dangerous signal for the GOP. While Douglas is only the seventh-most-populous county in the state, it had the largest number of voters who left the Republican Party.

"There's going to be a point where the party has to decide what kind of party it wants to be moving forward—and unfortunately for the party as a whole, that's going to mean no matter which fork in the road they choose, they're clearly going to lose what is part of the coalition or has been part of the coalition," strategist Winger said.

"The job after that is going to be to rebuild."


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You're talking about Melissa Carone, right?


The ranting blond woman who was an utter embarrassment.


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The ranting blond woman who was an utter embarrassment.


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I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear that it seems she wasn't in "IT support" for Dominion as she claimed, but in the janitorial field.


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I'm shocked she even has a job.


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I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear that it seems she wasn't in "IT support" for Dominion as she claimed, but in the janitorial field.
What the GOP overblowing someone's credentials to make them sound more credible then they are...no way


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Less than 5 minutes of vetting would have let them know that putting Melissa Carone up as a 'star witness', let alone any kind of witness, would be a terrible idea.


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If the client has integrity.

Plenty of fat cats out there who lack that. smile


Law firms don't really care whether their clients have integrity or morals. They care about whether they can win cases.


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McCarthy announces no disciplinary actions against Greene

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced no disciplinary actions against Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) in a statement released as he met with his caucus.

During the meeting, he told members he did not want to remove Greene from her committee assignment, according to a senior GOP source in the room.

In the statement, McCarthy condemned her incendiary remarks, but offered no disciplinary actions.

“Past comments from and endorsed by Marjorie Taylor Greene on school shootings, political violence, and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories do not represent the values or beliefs of the House Republican Conference," the statement read. "I condemn those comments unequivocally. I condemned them in the past. I continue to condemn them today. This House condemned QAnon last Congress and continues to do so today.”
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They had a completely different view when it came to Al Franken and his tasteless shitty photos, which no, were not akin to "rape".


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The party identifies with the past, and in simplest terms, time does not favor those who resist change. That which does not adapt does not survive. But they're trying to, by desperately embracing the formerly untapped power of the Hate Demographic: the frightened, noisy residue of a Vanilla Male Hegemony, itself a withering relic of the past.

God Bless the true Republicans like Mitt Romney. I still may never vote for him because of his policies, but at least he -- and others -- have shown the strength of character, the courage, to do the right thing.


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McCarthy announces no disciplinary actions against Greene

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced no disciplinary actions against Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) in a statement released as he met with his caucus.

During the meeting, he told members he did not want to remove Greene from her committee assignment, according to a senior GOP source in the room.

In the statement, McCarthy condemned her incendiary remarks, but offered no disciplinary actions.

“Past comments from and endorsed by Marjorie Taylor Greene on school shootings, political violence, and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories do not represent the values or beliefs of the House Republican Conference," the statement read. "I condemn those comments unequivocally. I condemned them in the past. I continue to condemn them today. This House condemned QAnon last Congress and continues to do so today.”
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They had a completely different view when it came to Al Franken and his tasteless shitty photos, which no, were not akin to "rape".



The Republican party is full of absolute clowns. Classless idiots who do not care about people at all. They think people are ****ing stupid and are spoon-feeding them conspiracy nonsense.


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Liz Cheney survived the Trump-Republican lead move to stripe her of her position last night. She will retain her House Republican Conference Chair, the 3rd highest position in the House for her party.

This was pure retaliation because she was one of the few Republicans to vote yes on impeaching Trump.


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Trump ready to make McConnell's life miserable

Allies of former President Trump say he’s determined to make life miserable for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Trump’s political machine, which has $60 million in a super PAC and an unmatched grass-roots fundraising apparatus, is vowing to go aggressively after GOP lawmakers in primaries in the wake of an unprecedented feud between the nation’s two most powerful Republicans.

Trump was prepared to give McConnell a pass, sources in his orbit stated, after he gave a blistering post-impeachment floor speech saying the former president was “practically and morally” responsible for the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol that led to five deaths and the evacuation of Congress.

But McConnell’s follow-up op-ed knocking Trump in The Wall Street Journal was the final straw, provoking a blistering response in which the former president insulted McConnell and his family and threatened to back primary challengers against GOP incumbents.
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