__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
Corrupt rulers know their shenanigans come at a cost of violent uprisings. They just want to defer it until they get their golden parachute and it becomes someone elses problem.
I mean, what's the alternative. A clean government and no more sex brothels and all the decadence money can buy? That's just crazy talk.
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I meant in the US, was aware of India's and China's brutal practices towards female pregnancies, especially during China's "one child policy".
China's now looking at losing a large portion of its population in a relatively short amount of time as generations age out because of their previous practices.
What are the odds that she's pro-choice only because she's had an abortion and if she was to publicly tow the right-wing, pro-life line that someone would have outed her?
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I honestly wouldn't really care that much about her being "pro-choice" as long as she didn't also go around calling herself a "Conservative."
I mean, she would still be on the wrong side of the issue, obviously, but at least she wouldn't be an embarassment for Conservatives by so confidently spouting her ignorance on the abortion issue.
She should just refer to herself as a libertarian, or even simply a republican rather than as a Conservative. Being libertarian is still better than being a liberal and far better than being , God forbid, a "progressive".
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
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There's some merit to that. That being said, the abortion issue is more important to religious conservatives. You can be politically, economically, socially and morally conservative and still be an atheist which could mean having a different stance on abortion.
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Religion has nothing to do with the abortion issue. I hate it when people use the religion argument as to why Conservatives are against abortion.
I've said it before, you don't have to be religious to recognize that the unborn have an inherent right to life, same as everyone else. They are human beings; real science says so. There is no reason to bring religion into it.
Also, Tomi Lahren claims to have Christian beliefs. How she is able to claim that while supporting abortion is beyond me. And I'm sorry but if there is no such thing as a real Conservative who supports abortion, religious or not. If you support abortion you are no conservative. Period.
Conservative are all about individual rights, traditional values, and limited government. True Conservatives recognize that without the fundamental right to life no other right we have means anything and is totally worthless.
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
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Yes, you don't have to be religious to hold that belief. You don't have to hold that belief even if you are religious.
And yet many "true" conservatives believe in the death penalty. That fundamental right to life doesn't seem so fundamental in the face of that belief.
You should also know that in most countries the abortion/conservative relationship is not the same as in America. Spain has stricter abortion laws than the US yet has much more socialist governments. Ireland until recently had a total ban on abortions under any circumstances yet also has far more left wing governments.
In the UK the Conservative party has been in power for over 10 years and is to the right of the Republican party on almost every issue yet restricting abortions has never been a political issue and they have also introduced gay marriage legislation.
Same applies in many places.
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I'd bet money abortions are essentially a vehicle to facilitate stem cell research for the pharmaceutical companies. I mean, laws or not, it wouldn't be hard to break them and sneak way more stem cells out the door as needed, against regulations.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
And I mean, think about it. Stem cell research is restricted because people have a problem with experimentation on human beings.
While stories of individual human beings have resulted in the embrace of abortions.
If you're a fatcat, are you really not gonna try and circumvent regulations to get more then your allotment of stem cells, hurry along research, come up with new cures to old diseases and make a lot of money?
I may be a conspiracy theorist loony, but my theories are firmly rooted in a reality where Enron happened. Peoples will do anything in the name of greed and power. ANYTHING.
Planned Parenthood as a cover for stem cell research isn't so far fetched, in the sense that it would be a scheme that would work. Means, motive, opportunity.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
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It's not my body because I'm a man, but if asked to abort or allow the baby a chance to live, I'd choose the latter. Adoption does exist after all. However, if there was a way of knowing whether ot not the child would be born with major defects that would cost more than I could handle, the waters then become a bit murkier. To be honest, if my child was going to be born mentally handicapped and I knew this during the fetus stage, I'd want to abort.
The act of abortion is rarely as cut and dry as you'd first think, and in not being able to see every angle, judgements tend to arise. I mean what if a women is gang raped and finds out that she became pregnant? Is it still as cut and dry when, or if she decides to abort?
Pro Life? Pro Choice? The Blame Game? I was raised to believe that life is 99% attitude and 1% circumstance, but sometimes that 1% manifests itself in our lives and we are then forced to make choices based upon it.
I ask myself, "how does this affect me?" If the answer is not at all, I don't care. I assume the pregnant woman thinks that constantly, so it's up to her, as long as it's a rational decision.
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