Do you think it's possible for a boy like me to discuss matters with a ghoul like you in a respectable format on the same wavelength? Do you think it possible we both digest what each other says and offer reasonable counterpoints and alternate viewpoints?
With all due respect I don't, and that's why I'm talking with Leodicktits.
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you raise fair points, but, do you see at any point in the battle exactly when orion decides to boom tube out...? or do you see any battle being fought, like, AT ALL? the scene where they stand in front of each other? even you said it looks like the power is coming from the golem. any other indication of a battle anywhere?
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you're missing one of the greats but i can't remember it! i think thingy used it. damn. all i remember was that it was pretty hilarious. or maybe it was blue area vet that used it. so many trolls, so little space in my head for them.
It takes 3 seconds for the blast. One full panel, a prior explosion, and reflections are more than most get. I'm not sure why you'd need more panels for one attack at that length of time.
After they arrive in the system does Orion boomtube in. That leaves time from the blast to the arrival for him to port out. Once he starts charging the Omega Beams most likely. If you're going the angle of him boomtubing out of the initial blast then there's a strong delay in the time it takes to Boomtube. The blast was already finished by the time the GLs get there but there was still energy coming out of the Boomtube. The energy had already encompassed Orion when we see the two in the big shot so it's not possible for him to have Boomtubed out of that based on the context. In fact the energy was surrounding both a panel after a planet was running for their lives so even more doubt that he escaped when it was already huge and he was right there.
The battle had simply continued and The Golem started charging its power so Orion left. In fact he specifically was porting to Hal Jordan to get help so that allows another reason for him to port away from battle to that specific spot.
The battle happened. Questioning its existence because of the art depicting a big blast doesn't take away from the validity of the additional context. Orion standing there while doing nothing and being blasted is possible in comics of course but seems unlikely when he already knows he needs help to beat it and Orion being a battle retard isn't just going to deer in the headlights just because he's weaker.
Just because we don't know what happened initially before the big blast or the seconds after it destroyed the solar system that doesn't mean we ignore the attack.
Solar system intact
3 second countdown
Big light appearing in sky with people running for fear
We get a look at what caused that light with Orion and Golem in close proximity
Hal appears and the solar system is shredded
Orion Boomtubes a couple seconds later
Golem uses attacks a couple seconds later that take a while to charge
Later Kyle and the writer attribute it to a battle
Just because something happens off-panel that doesn't give us leeway to invent context that erases Orion standing right there. If someone takes one blast all we really need is to see them in that blast without opposing context stating they dodged. In that short of timespan without additional context we can be pretty sure Orion didn't stop time for everyone but the Golem and Orion and then did backflips to other planets so they could destroy them individually while Orion ski kickflipped through Boomtubes, grinded off the Golem, lost him for 138 seconds until the Golem wall rode off the sun and did a triple frontflip through a moon Orion was hiding on all while tracking him. They looked at each other with regret knowing in another life both could find love in each other's embrace but Orion was cursed with his last name being Capulet and Golem Patrick Montague could never escape being excommunicated from his family if they were to just touch lips... only once... For in this world of woe Orion was just a sk8er boi and The Golems said see ya later skid.
We can invent context or we can use what we know/all we need to know how blasts work in comics. I'm not seeing a need to do mental skatenastics over something fairly simple that doesn't need pages of context piled on it tbh. Big blast Orion there with nothing going against it? Hmmm.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
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