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Work should merit respect. Exploitation should merit nothing. Making work should never be something to demonize.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cdtm
It's hard to take anti-capitalism messages seriously from a guy who made enough money complaining about capitalism to form his own Scrooge McDuck money pit.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blakemore
Work should merit respect. Exploitation should merit nothing. Making work should never be something to demonize.
Anti capitalism sentiment often go hand in hand with incompetence in some form or another.
Feb 24th, 2021 07:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cdtm
It's hard to take anti-capitalism messages seriously from a guy who made enough money complaining about capitalism to form his own Scrooge McDuck money pit.
that's a very good point. He got money from complaining about a system that creates money XD
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See that's where things get stupid.
Is it pro capitalist if you make money?
Capitalism isn't inherently "When a person get the money for the thing."
It's a system itself. So I don't know how hypocritical Michael Moore is in at least that aspect
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He makes money from complaining about a system of making money.. the hypocrisy is clear....
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blakemore
He makes money from complaining about a system of making money.. the hypocrisy is clear....
But like, I make money? Does that make me hypocritical if I'm critical of capitalism?
Do you have a job? Does that make you a capitalist?
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To answer the first question, yes. To answer the second question, no. Unfortunately I don't have a job. I'm sorry.
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Capitalism is the system of mutually agreed upon trade. If you're anti capitalism then you're anti human.
Feb 24th, 2021 08:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blakemore
To answer the first question, yes. To answer the second question, no. Unfortunately I don't have a job. I'm sorry.
You don't have to apologize to me for that.
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Having a job and pointing out the bad aspects of capitalism does not make one a hypocrite. One can also both be a capitalist and critical of the bad parts.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Having a job and pointing out the bad aspects of capitalism does not make one a hypocrite. One can also both be a capitalist and critical of the bad parts.
This is sensible.
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The thing is, although I ****ing hate customer service, I feel like it's more respectful if I criticize capitalist ideas if I was working right now
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Having a job and pointing out the bad aspects of capitalism does not make one a hypocrite. One can also both be a capitalist and critical of the bad parts.
What do you think are the bad parts ?
Feb 24th, 2021 09:35 PM
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I like how people are against Capitalism, but have a net worth in the millions.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
What do you think are the bad parts ?
Environmental damage/pollution in the pursuit of the last penny. What mega corporations like DuPont get away with to earn their shareholders that extra half percent. While a small business owner can go out of business for a single violation.
Capitalism can/does further inequality as not everyone is born with the same opportunities and it tends to favor those born with the most. Look at Reagan's policies and what they did to the wealth gap in America and our middle class.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Environmental damage/pollution in the pursuit of the last penny. What mega corporations like DuPont get away with to earn their shareholders that extra half percent. While a small business owner can go out of business for a single violation.
Capitalism can/does further inequality as not everyone is born with the same opportunities and it tends to favor those born with the most. Look at Reagan's policies and what they did to the wealth gap in America and our middle class.
Have you considered that the companies who pollute and still exist only do so as benefactors of an incestuous relationship with the state ?
For example the covid lockdowns resulted in the largest redistribution of wealth from the lower and middle class to the upper class. Look at how good apple and Nike did during the lockdowns while almost a quarter of small businesses shut down.
Do you think inequality is intrinsically bad ? For example I'm not equal with NBA players, in terms of athletic ability, is that bad ?
Feb 24th, 2021 10:11 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Klaw
I like how people are against Capitalism, but have a net worth in the millions.
I remember Russell Brand discussing this. He said when he was poor, discussing the bad aspects of capitalism meant he was just jealous of rich people. When discussing it after he became rich he was derided as a virtue signalling champagne socialist. It was like they just didn't want to address his point.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I remember Russell Brand discussing this. He said when he was poor, discussing the bad aspects of capitalism meant he was just jealous of rich people. When discussing it after he became rich he was derided as a virtue signalling champagne socialist. It was like they just didn't want to address his point.
The poor have more to gain from capitalism than they ever could from socialism.
The poorest of the poor in America have more access to food and health care than Kings did 300-400 years ago.
Feb 24th, 2021 10:23 PM
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Well, what is the point?
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