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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
I'm very politically right wing and I don't think you or any of the other mods have ever warned me about anything.
The only thing that bothers me is lazy replies, but I get why people do that.
Why do they do that?
Jun 1st, 2021 08:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
@blake
If you say you believe in the free market then you can't say you support government intervention into the economy, this includes taxation,
what is the point in even addressing your false dilemma. it's not like you'll be like "wow holy crap i see it! is this what everyone calls 'nuance'? well i'll be damned!"
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Jun 1st, 2021 08:30 PM
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I prefer the left to the right.
Jun 1st, 2021 08:31 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
Yeah, I've seen people say that but they didnt provide an argument.
This is my version of what you said:
Leftists think the political spectrum should include things outside the economy, so they can pretend the economy doesn't matter.
Also in response to your claim, that's why we use the political axis, which has a x and y plane. Left to right deals with economics, up and down deals with the other stuff.
Do you have a critic of that metric as well ?
I would say you should refer to my previous post about why conservatives try to make the economy so much more important than every other topic put together.
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Jun 1st, 2021 08:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
@blake
If you say you believe in the free market then you can't say you support government intervention into the economy, this includes taxation, regulation, protectionism, war, etc.
However, you could say you believe in a fairly free economy, but that statement could apply to modern china, soooooo....
Actually you can. It turns out you can support a free market while acknowledging that there needs be more than just the free market.
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Jun 1st, 2021 08:42 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
I'm the right wing guy who will have a short and quiet walk home.
By shooting the dog...
Amirite?
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Jun 1st, 2021 08:46 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
@blake
If you say you believe in the free market then you can't say you support government intervention into the economy, this includes taxation, regulation, protectionism, war, etc.
However, you could say you believe in a fairly free economy, but that statement could apply to modern china, soooooo....
like bill Clinton once said, “there’s a third way”
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Jun 1st, 2021 09:02 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Why do they do that?
Well, when I'm being lazy conversationally it's usually because the argument being presented is one I've encountered before by a presenter who wasn't honest, engaging, informed etc.
Then I have to remember that's bad practice.
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:06 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bashar Teg
what is the point in even addressing your false dilemma. it's not like you'll be like "wow holy crap i see it! is this what everyone calls 'nuance'? well i'll be damned!"
A free market is a market where people can trade free of aggression.
If you support any aggression, it's not agree market.
It's like love making vs rape.
If there's any non consenting coercion in love making it's called rape.
No false dilemma.
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:12 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Actually you can. It turns out you can support a free market while acknowledging that there needs be more than just the free market.
Yes, the addition you want on top of the free market is violence.
I'm saying that's immoral. I'm not saying you have to have my morality, but I would like you to tell the truth that adscititious component you want is in fact violence. Then we'll be on the same page
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:14 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jaden_2.0
By shooting the dog...
Amirite?
Scorched earth, duh.
Seriously tho, I follow the n.a.p.
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:15 AM
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@ blake
Mussolini said the same thing. The third way is fascism
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:16 AM
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So Clinton is comparable to Il Duche…. That’s Italian for the leader.
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Jun 2nd, 2021 12:19 AM
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Every president since at least Wilson is comparable to any of communist or fascist leader.
To me Joe Biden and xi are very comparable.
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
It is the way it is because the "right wing" people couldn't behave themselves. No matter how bad anyone tended to get, they were almost always worse. So they were banned.
It's their fault KMC is the way it is, for better or for worse.
Seems like they basically lost the plot after Trump lost.
Jun 2nd, 2021 11:56 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Klaw
I've spoken with DDM multiple times, he's a Leftist.
He has certain left views, but would be a bit of a stretch to label him a leftist.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Klaw
People here are so far Left, that anyone to the right of them (Center Left) is automatically labeled a Right Winger.
Whats your definition of Left?
Most the people still hanging here voted Biden. Is that left to you ?
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:01 PM
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anything left of fascism is "leftist" to eon
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Jun 2nd, 2021 12:03 PM
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Are there left wing opinions here since I last visited? When did that happen?
Jun 2nd, 2021 12:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ilikecomics
Yes, the addition you want on top of the free market is violence.
I'm saying that's immoral. I'm not saying you have to have my morality, but I would like you to tell the truth that adscititious component you want is in fact violence. Then we'll be on the same page
The truth is you pretend it's only violence or that the free market itself doesn't have any violent aspects.
It's pretty childish to adopt your stance.
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Jun 2nd, 2021 02:27 PM
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Ffs, I’m confident most people here understand the merit of being paid for working and hate taxes yet, believe that things like crime prevention, postal service, healthcare and rescue service are a nice safety net to have.
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