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Should people propagating false narratives like "stop the steal" be prosecuted?"
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Bingo, Bongo! I would call convincing stupid people no to do something which stops not stupid people possibly dying of disease a kind of terrorism... isn't it?
that’s for the courts to decide.

In ethneo’s ideal world, courts should be privately funded. Gee, I wonder what kind of rich ******* would privately fund a court to decide the fate of their friends or enemies laughing out loud


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that’s for the courts to decide.

In ethneo’s ideal world, courts should be privately funded. Gee, I wonder what kind of rich ******* would privately fund a court to decide the fate of their friends or enemies laughing out loud
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People shouldn't be prosecuted for peddling conspiracy garbage that it patently false. If people wish to spend their days living in some fantasy land that's up to them. However, if by spreading falsehoods you incite others to commit violence then that should be punishable.

They should be prosecuted through civil court if they knowingly spread false information about an individual particularly if that falsehood is damaging to that person's personal or professional life. Slander, libel, defamation, false light etc should be and are punishable.

However, if they take any action as a result of their believing false narratives and that action harms others, they should be held accountable for those actions.


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People shouldn't be prosecuted for peddling conspiracy garbage that it patently false. If people wish to spend their days living in some fantasy land that's up to them. However, if by spreading falsehoods you incite others to commit violence then that should be punishable.

They should be prosecuted through civil court if they knowingly spread false information about an individual particularly if that falsehood is damaging to that person's personal or professional life. Slander, libel, defamation, false light etc should be and are punishable.

However, if they take any action as a result of their believing false narratives and that action harms others, they should be held accountable for those actions.
Does action taken include a decision of inaction Jaden. Like Antivaxxers?

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They should fall under the same legal category as parents who refuse medical treatment for their children and the children suffer and/or die as a result. But only if a direct causal link between their refusal of vaccination can be shown to have adversely affected a specific individual.


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They should fall under the same legal category as parents who refuse medical treatment for their children and the children suffer and/or die as a result. But only if a direct causal link between their refusal of vaccination can be shown to have adversely affected a specific individual.
Interesting, I hadn't thought of it like that. Wouldn't false information telling someone not to vax leading to them getting COVID and killing an elderly parent/grandparent be as much the responsibility of the person who provide the false information about the vaccine as the false information Trump supplied on an election leading to the storming of the capital. Wouldn't such person be a Giuliani?

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They should fall under the same legal category as parents who refuse medical treatment for their children and the children suffer and/or die as a result. But only if a direct causal link between their refusal of vaccination can be shown to have adversely affected a specific individual.
but this depends on how much political power they have as well.


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So KMC is arguing whether or not people should be prosecuted for "propagating false narratives"?

Someone hasn't heard of Freedom of Speech.

Oh wait they have, and Leftists hate it.


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So KMC is arguing whether or not people should be prosecuted for "propagating false narratives"?

Someone hasn't heard of Freedom of Speech.

Oh wait they have, and Leftists hate it.
Guiliani just got suspended for lying smile

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What Donald Trump and his cohorts are attempting is no less than the destruction of what George Washington fought for, what Abraham Lincoln died for, and what countless millions of Americans lost their lives fighting for either at Normandy or Gettysburg or Yorktown.

The Trumpers want to hold elections that are neither free nor fair, but ones where the scales are heavily tipped in their direction.

Once in power, they will unleash endless investigations against perceived enemies (we already have seen how they corrupted the Justice Department) and they will have the shills at Fox News run by the biggest turd in publishing history, Rupert Murdoch, defending and approving everyone of these tactics.

As Matthew Dowd, a former top aide to George W. Bush stated recently, there is no shaming the GOP anymore. They have gone past that point.

Viewed from 30,000 feet, the reality is obvious: There is an unprecedented and skillfully led effort to end democracy as we know it. New voting bills severely limiting access to minority voters are passing through scores of Republican state legislative bodies.

Likewise, any officials who defied Trump are being replaced in droves, as are African Americans who are being thrown off election boards all over the country.

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People shouldn't be prosecuted for peddling conspiracy garbage that it patently false. If people wish to spend their days living in some fantasy land that's up to them. However, if by spreading falsehoods you incite others to commit violence then that should be punishable.

They should be prosecuted through civil court if they knowingly spread false information about an individual particularly if that falsehood is damaging to that person's personal or professional life. Slander, libel, defamation, false light etc should be and are punishable.

However, if they take any action as a result of their believing false narratives and that action harms others, they should be held accountable for those actions.


Sounds reasonable to me.


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So KMC is arguing whether or not people should be prosecuted for "propagating false narratives"?

Someone hasn't heard of Freedom of Speech.

Oh wait they have, and Leftists hate it.



"Trump talked to advisers and lawyers in 2019 about what the Justice Department, Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the courts could do to look into late-night comedy shows such as "SNL." -snip


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So KMC is arguing whether or not people should be prosecuted for "propagating false narratives"?

Someone hasn't heard of Freedom of Speech.

Oh wait they have, and Leftists hate it.



Oh they like it for themselves and people they agree with but no one else.


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If only there was a democratic form of government to decide that decision. Wait, that is why you have a government.

Oh dear. It’s almost like Trumpets have it backwards. 😒


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If only there was a democratic form of government to decide that decision. Wait, that is why you have a government.

Oh dear. It’s almost like Trumpets have it backwards. 😒


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If only there was a democratic form of government to decide that decision. Wait, that is why you have a government.

Oh dear. It’s almost like Trumpets have it backwards. 😒
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People shouldn't be prosecuted for peddling conspiracy garbage that it patently false. If people wish to spend their days living in some fantasy land that's up to them. However, if by spreading falsehoods you incite others to commit violence then that should be punishable.

They should be prosecuted through civil court if they knowingly spread false information about an individual particularly if that falsehood is damaging to that person's personal or professional life. Slander, libel, defamation, false light etc should be and are punishable.

However, if they take any action as a result of their believing false narratives and that action harms others, they should be held accountable for those actions.



Yes, even people who pedldle crazy conspiracy garbage nonsense like Trump is a russian agent or cops are on a crusade to kill all black people shouldn't be arrested for it, I agree. They have every right to speak freely and make asses out of themselves if they like. thumb up thumb up


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Yes, even people who pedldle crazy conspiracy garbage nonsense like Trump is a russian agent or cops are on a crusade to kill all black people shouldn't be arrested for it, I agree. They have every right to speak freely and make asses out of themselves if they like. thumb up thumb up
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Yes, even people who pedldle crazy conspiracy garbage nonsense like Trump is a russian agent or cops are on a crusade to kill all black people shouldn't be arrested for it, I agree. They have every right to speak freely and make asses out of themselves if they like. thumb up thumb up


Yes. Although I don't know anyone who has said either of those things.


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Majority doesn't decide what's right.
no, that’s for ethneo to decide. He even made a thread explaining his tactics of how to shit your pants.


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