The issue, of course, is that you don't live in any of those countries and aren't a victim of their policies. It might actually be a legitimate issue in those instances.
That's different from citizens of America, or any other country, asking their own nation to atone for actions taken against its own citizens. Especially when those policies might still have impact today.
Here you are again though, not understanding these groups aren't a monolith.
Plenty of activists do criticize the very things you're talking about. But you will generally be more vocal about your own country's transgressions because you have far more power to change those policies. This would generally be true for an American, British, Japanese, Brazilian, Somalian, wtfever activist.
There's actually been some extremely complicated ideological battles over things like this. France banning burkas and other coverings is a good example. Part of the debate is this: How much does it help combat religion-based sexism vs how much does it encourage religious and ethnic discrimination and assimilation?
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"I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that." Holy based, Mr. Trump!
__________________ And from the ashes he rose, like a black cloud. The Sin of one became the Sin of many.
Yeah, it did because most leftists ("woke" so'-called "progressives") seem to have this delusional belief that slavery was invented by white people and has always been practised exclusively by white people and that white people have never been on the receiving end of it.
Iow, they stupidly think that white people have always been the oppressors and never the oppressed and so they owe black people reparations for some shit that happened hundreds of years ago while conveniently ignoring the fact that it is white people who first ended slavery and that slavery is STILL going on today in non-white countries.
My main reason in posting that video is because there has been this divisive movement by leftists and democrats to make white people pay "reparations" to black people because of "muh slavery her derp!"
That movement is what is actually racist.
__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
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That is why one must be caucious when engaging in politics / social activism etc.
I know that I have re-evaluated my political positions because of hypocrisy displayed by some Conservative movements (mainly for Polish politics, but also for Western political ambience).
My point was that shouldn't really be conflated with Feminist issues. That's just traditional muslims being kind of prudish when following their religion to that extent. But it goes both ways in terms of gender.
Think the word "suffer" is overstating it on that particular issue tbh.
Yeah but I'm just asking how's that different to Republicans allying themselves with Saudi? I doubt Republicans agree with forcing women to cover up and making homosexuality a crime.
I get what you're saying but in this particular example we should distinguish between faith and race.
Parents not liking an Arab Muslim marrying an Arab Christian (for example), would be a very different issue to not liking an Arab Muslim marrying an African Muslim, or a White Catholic marrying a Black Catholic. The first is being disappointed your children are moving away from your faith, morals and ideals. The latter just seems kinda racist.
But I know with Jews differentiating between Faith and Race can be problematic as you're Jewish if your Mother is Jewish.
So on the one hand you're angry at Americans caring about an issue that happened in America but not about the same thing when it happened in other countries and on the other hand you get angry about non Americans having an opinion about things that happen in America and regularly tell them to mind their own f**king business.
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You're conflating a couple of different ideas here.
For one most Feminist don't support the anti-women parts of Islam. Just like they don't support the anti-women parts of Christianity and they aren't trying to ban Christianity despite what many conservatives want to believe.
Most often they are just supporting those people's rights to practice their religion free from persecution. You see the difference supporting people's right to practice their religion vs endorsing the bad parts of that religion?
Finally activist generally have a personal stake in the causes they fight for. You're statement about them fighting for their own people is just a throw away line intended to sound profound but just comes off as douchey.
Let me put it to you another way. You basically said,
"This person with lung cancer is trying to get more research into lung cancer to happen. Well why aren't they advocating for research into all cancers. Such a hypocrite."
You would hopefully not do this to said cancer patient so why do you feel you can do it to an activist group fighting for their people's rights?
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