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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was using the Gauntlet. As... you know... you can actually see during the battle.

He only turned off his "omniscience" - the cosmic senses. So the heroes would stand a really small chance (0.05%) of surprising and beating him.

All stated on panel several times, don't be a DC version of carver, please.

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Originally posted by Galan007
The Serpent(a Skyfather) shattered Cap's shield. So it very clearly does not require the IG's full power to do so.

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Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
so are you saying that it took the full power of the gauntlet to shatter the shield?

i want to know EXACTLY how far some of you are willing to take this showing.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
To be fair, Serpent was at his absolute best during the event, true-all-father-mode, amplifying himself with the fear caused worldwide.

But yes, he did break the shield. Uber magick tends to do the trick.

PS. You're the only person in this solar system who believes Galactus' physical manifestation is physically more durable than the shield

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Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
so are you saying that it took the full power of the gauntlet to shatter the shield?

i want to know EXACTLY how far some of you are willing to take this showing.

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Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
so considering the serpent showing, isn't it possible that thanos was "only" using skyfather tier power against cap?

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Originally posted by carver9
Why are you saying Skaar punched harder than any IG user?

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Originally posted by h1a8
Because i don't know of any feats where an IG user quantifiably punched harder than that particular punch. Likeni said I can be wrong.

Could a IG user possibly punch that hard? Probably. But have they ever? You tell me.

Stop wasting time and post feats. What are the best punching feats from an IG user shown?

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Originally posted by Diesldude
it wasn’t harder than the feat in this thread. Bro man characters have punched people into space but cannot crack the shield. Can you compare the force needed here? I think force needed to shatter the shield is > than punching someone into outer space.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Most Characters who have punched people into space can't normally do that in a comic (outlier feats). Characters power levels often fluctuate. When no other evidence is present, we assume a character is operating at average levels. Otherwise we would falsely assume, that in EVERY SCENE, a character is operating at the highest level they have ever operated at.

For example, every time Gladiator punches someone, he is clearly not using planet destroying force.

And sending Juggs to space takes way more force than sending Sentry to space.

Imo it might take billions of tons to break the shield. But characters who have once or twice applied billions of tons in their comic career can not apply billions of tons of force 99% of the time (they are not written that strong on average).

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Originally posted by Galan007
Like Stilt mentioned: Thanos' attack fragmented the shield more than Serpent's attack.

This:
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Compared to this:
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Based on the above, we can deduce that Thanos' blow packed more of a wallop than Serpent's... How much more, I cannot say for certain. /shrug


**And to be clear, I was not implying in my above posts that Thanos' punch was capped to Skyfather-level. Just was clarifying that the shield itself does definitively fail against that tier of power.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Most Characters who have punched people into space can't normally do that in a comic (outlier feats). Characters power levels often fluctuate. When no other evidence is present, we assume a character is operating at average levels. Otherwise we would falsely assume, that in EVERY SCENE, a character is operating at the highest level they have ever operated at.

For example, every time Gladiator punches someone, he is clearly not using planet destroying force.

And sending Juggs to space takes way more force than sending Sentry to space.

Imo it might take billions of tons to break the shield. But characters who have once or twice applied billions of tons in their comic career can not apply billions of tons of force 99% of the time (they are not written that strong on average).

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Originally posted by Diesldude
that’s fine and all but that wasn’t my point bro. I agree no one operates at high end showings 100% of the time but I’m not arguing this.

My point is that I think it takes more force to shatter the shield than to punch someone into space. Punching someone into space was a big deal in the past but I think it’s still under the force needed to shatter the shield.

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Originally posted by carver9
Is Skaar punch harder than what Superman hit Doomsday with?

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Originally posted by h1a8
It depends on the shaking of the Earth or the shaking of a city or the shaking of the downtown area of the city. But why is that relevant here?


But Superman punched WW astronomically harder than both of them.