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Klaw is a bad faith debater.



Bush was (still is?) a religious extremist: President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians. -snip


Well, he invaded Irag and Afghanistan and helped secure Israel by giving them even more arms, but he somehow forgot about a state for the Palestinians. Maybe God wasn't serious about that part.
Bloody Hell looking at things from this perspective it was just another religious crusade against brown people.

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Bloody Hell looking at things from this perspective it was just another religious crusade against brown people.


"God told me to invade/attack, something, something divine mission" is religious extremism no matter the religion.

Rightist will defend Bush's motives as righteous because he claims to be a Christian and that somehow makes it okay.


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I’ve met Christian people, they’re nice and peaceful, same with Muslims and Sikhs. I don’t agree with religion, but they’re always very nice people.


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The whole Middle East is a mess. I think there’s terrorism in Jordan now.


The thing is, it's not like a two state solution was never offered. It has been, multiple times, but everyone in the area wants Israeli's out wholesale.


Which isn't EVER going to happen.


Granted, Israel has made some seriously bad decisions since.


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Israel has nukes. That’s part of the problem


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The thing is, it's not like a two state solution was never offered. It has been, multiple times, but everyone in the area wants Israeli's out wholesale.


Which isn't EVER going to happen.


Granted, Israel has made some seriously bad decisions since.



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Partition was again proposed by the 1947 UN Partition plan for the division of Palestine. It proposed a three-way division, again with Jerusalem held separately, under international control. The partition plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership. However, the plan was rejected by the leadership of Arab nations and the Palestinian leadership, which opposed any partition of Palestine and any independent Jewish presence in the area.



Rob, say what you against Israel, but can you accept the rejecting a Jewish presence is unreasonable, if not the definition of "bad faith negotiations"?


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^ Yeah they just support invading and occupying other countries. Oh and usually white supremacy on top.





Really it doesn't take long to google:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...aq-6262644.html


Paywall.

Edit: paywall is gone for some reason.


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"God told me to invade/attack, something, something divine mission" is religious extremism no matter the religion.

Rightist will defend Bush's motives as righteous because he claims to be a Christian and that somehow makes it okay.


I won't.

Bush is one of the worst Presidents.


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"I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."


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And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."


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I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness.


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Another telling sign of Mr Bush's religion was his answer to Mr Woodward's question on whether he had asked his father - the former president who refused to launch a full-scale invasion of Iraq after driving Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991 - for advice on what to do.

The current President replied that his earthly father was "the wrong father to appeal to for advice ... there is a higher father that I appeal to".


All from the link Darth Thor shared.

I didn't realize it was like this.

This is really nuts.

I condemn this 100%.


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I won't.

Bush is one of the worst Presidents.



Robbie has this delusional thinking that because Bush called himself a "republican" that it means all conservatives/libertarians/right-wingers/registered republicans automatically liked him lol.

Bush wasn't much better than Obama and Clinton.

Terrible president he was. So was his father.


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*sigh* so they were rino’s?


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Bush and Trump also had a little spat on the 9/11 anniversary the other day, for anyone who wasn't aware of it.

Trump didn't start it but I'm sure the Trump-haters will claim that it was somehow Trump's fault lol.

TDS and all that.


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I won't.

Bush is one of the worst Presidents.
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Robbie has this delusional thinking that because Bush called himself a "republican" that it means all conservatives/libertarians/right-wingers/registered republicans automatically liked him lol.

Bush wasn't much better than Obama and Clinton.

Terrible president he was. So was his father.



Not how you Rightist felt towards Bush Jr when he was POTUS.

Bush somehow won two elections with virtually no support, how odd, that.


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Both elections were suspicious.


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*sigh* so they were rino’s?


Bush is the definition of RINO.

Massive spending, deficits, added to the debt, very fiscally unConservative.

Police state via Patriotic Act.

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Robbie has this delusional thinking that because Bush called himself a "republican" that it means all conservatives/libertarians/right-wingers/registered republicans automatically liked him lol.

Bush wasn't much better than Obama and Clinton.

Terrible president he was. So was his father.


Agreed.


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Both elections were suspicious.
2000 was a sham, Republicans likely stole it, they got the Right controlled Supreme Court to not allow recounting of just 61,000 votes, which came down to Gore losing by just 537 votes.

Yet here those same people are still crying foul and recounting to this day, 1.6 million votes in Arizona alone.


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"I guess Klaw spoke too soon. Since Tony Perkins is so concerned about "the right to make health care decisions," we can look forward to him coming out against the Texas anti-abortion law any moment now. Tick-Tock, Tony. Would not want to be a giant, hypocritical piece of shit."

I'm pro-choice, and I've already condemned the Texas abortion law.

Try again.


So you are just going to ignore that right-wing Tony Perkins and the right-wing Family Research Council tried to use 9/11 to push their political agenda?


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Idk where to begin.


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The difference is that the American Conservative does not engage in acts of terror (and please spare me any of your fake outrage over the mostly peaceful protest that happened on Jan 6; that was not terrorism, ffs) with her gun.... duh.


Not according to the FBI, who notes that most domestic terrorism is committed by anti-government conservatives, who continue to be the biggest domestic terrorist threat in the United States.


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So you are just going to ignore that right-wing Tony Perkins and the right-wing Family Research Council tried to use 9/11 to push their political agenda?



Whatabout whatabout Whataboutism!


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