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Can Luke's character be salvaged?
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StiltmanFTW
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Driver at least put some effort and actually interacted with the fans, if memory serves?

Rest of the new cast didn't give a shit, lol.


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well if I recall John Boyega was also very involved into it


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laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Rey and Finn were both good ideas on paper.

Finn would've been really cool if his character actually reflected his character settings. He deserts, leaves everything he's ever known behind because he's uncomfortable with killing despite years of conditioning. Then 5 minutes later, he has zero qualms about blasting his brothers in arms to smithereens, no hesitation. If his relationship to the stormtroopers was so inconsequential, then why even make him a stormtrooper...

...what was Rey's idea, again? Do you mean her being retconned into a Palpatine?


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...what was Rey's idea, again? Do you mean her being retconned into a Palpatine?



No just the idea of an orphan who is a powerful force sensitive whose never left her planet but joins the adventure. I get thats still like Luke but in an entirely different Galactic setting thatd work fine.

Agree Finn had tons of potential. Annoys me he never wore his stormtrooper costume again. Like keep it, use it to go undercover like Kanan and Ezra always did.

Also should have explored his force sensitivity from the start. And not just make that a throwaway line in the last film.

I guess in a Jedi Academy based series all characters would start off younger as well, so probably have to be a different cast.

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Having a major Jedi character who isn't an extraordinary Force sensitive would also have been a nice change of pace @Finn. It might have been difficult to keep him from being overshadowed by Rey in that case, but I could see it being done in a similar way to Leia in the EU, where being a Jedi was only a secondary pursuit for that character.


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Nah Should have focused around Luke's Jedi Academy.

That way it's also fresh (not done before), can also include the OT characters, and whatever other Galactic shenanigans are going on it would show the OT wasn't all for nothing.

This could be independent interim project. Luke Skywalker proceeds to establish the New Jedi Order. He has to deal with numerous challenges including Imperial Remnants in the course. He gets his own films and stories to tell.

Sequel Trilogy set in the future could show that Luke Skywalker succeeded in rebuilding the Jedi Order and restoring peace to the galaxy. While the New Jedi Order is attempting to manage a more evolved version of the galaxy, a task force is in the process of discovering and recovering ancient artifacts and awakens an ancient evil in the process, and disaster follows. In this manner, Sequel Trilogy could not only show Luke in a positive light but could tell a new story which could allow an entirely new set of characters to emerge and develop while they learn how to deal with the new threat. This could be something fresh to rejuvenate Star Wars and draw more people to it.

Original Trilogy clicked because it was something new and fresh at the time. George Lucas had ample time to add to it with Prequel Trilogy among other project.

Similarly, KoTOR clicked because it was something new and fresh at the time, although in game format.

People need to move on from Original Trilogy to be honest. The continous appeal to OT Nostalgia has prevented Star Wars from evolving into something new and fresh over time. Just look at the heap of mess the Sequel Triology turned into due to said practice. Both of the fan favorites Luke and Palpatine became anticlimatic in the end. It also diminished the significance of Death Star.

Disney is doing nothing but fan-servicing and hyping Darth Vader with junk stories. Novel writers are left to pick on the pieces and make sense of them but there is a limit to how much junk can be addressed.

Disney had an entire Expanded Universe lore at its disposal to draw from and tell relatively better stories but people in charge are not bright to begin with.

If I was George Lucas, I would be pretty upset.

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Oh and welcome back Legend.

Thank you.

I am more into other games and professional matters.

Star Wars under Disney does not appeal to me much. Rogue One is memorable though.


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To each their own. I have no issue with Luke's story, or his portrayal in The Last Jedi. And the way he went out is arguably the most Jedi thing we've ever seen any Jedi do in canon. Halted an entire army in its tracks, inspired hope across the galaxy, and saved the last remaining members of the Resistance, all without ever doing any harm to any of his adversaries. It was basically the purest example of Jedi pacifist ideals expressed in almost any Star Wars storytelling medium.

And just because we know how a character's story ends doesn't mean we can't enjoy the current stories being told with them. People loved Obi-Wan in the Prequels and The Clone Wars, despite having already seen A New Hope and knowing he would get cut down by Vader. A lot of time, storytelling is about the journey, not the conclusion.

Luke is being fantastically written in Charles Soule's current Star Wars comic run, and has plenty of other great canon stories as well. The Mandalorian, Rise of Kylo Ren #2, Battlefront 2, Shattered Empire, and Weapon of a Jedi, just to name a few. Just because he doesn't always have the biggest part to play in those stories doesn't mean he's being poorly written.

This is especially apparent considering every time he seems to pop up in a story about other characters, his appearance goes down as being a fan favorite moment from that story. Look at how incredibly hyped people were by his very, very brief appearance at the end of Mandalorian Season 2. Look at how many people point to Luke's mission in Battlefront 2 as the best moment in that whole game.


If you think Luke's ending ruins all of that other storytelling, and you can't get over a movie that came out four years ago, maybe just admit to yourself that you're not a big fan of Luke and move on to other characters?

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Not really.

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