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You're not wrong at all, but because the script was what it was, that seems the reason why. They wrote the plot around Ikaris being a loyal Eternal to the end, making him a threat to the others who wanted to help humanity. But he also had to be weak enough that they could fight back, and the Deviants were a legitimate danger to him. So yeah, with a sucky plot Ikaris was the lynchpin so they moved him where they needed to make it work.

It didn't look like the rest except Gilgamesh were any threat to Ikaris. He barehanded Thena's blades, was completely unharmed by Makkari's attacks and Kingo's blasts, and Phastos draining his energy kept him down only for so long.


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It didn't look like the rest except Gilgamesh were any threat to Ikaris. He barehanded Thena's blades, was completely unharmed by Makkari's attacks and Kingo's blasts, and Phastos draining his energy kept him down only for so long.

I never said the others were a threat, I said they could fight back against him, and they did. As for Thena, she's weird in that her blades definitely would've taken him out, but she would've had to get a lethal shot.

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Hmm, CW Superman doesn't have the World Engine feat, which is easily a planet busting tank. Those World Engines were effectively souped up Death Star lasers after all.



Tough one.


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I thought Ikaris relied way to much on his eye beams during the movie to be honest. It is hard to gauge his power.


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It should also be noted that Druig never once tried to mind control Ikaris, even when Ikaris was trying to kill him. Don't know if it's simply because his powers won't work on another Eternal but it's still worth noting.


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It could be he was too honorable to try and mind control a fellow Eternal. Or Arishem could've built a failsafe into him that made it so he never thought to try and mind control other Eternals, because if he did it would reveal his powers wouldn't work on them because they weren't organic. Or that he'd simply never been attacked by Ikaris before and was in the middle of gathering energy to focus on Tiamut so it didn't even cross his mind. Or, it was just bad writing and another plothole. There could be a thousand reasons.

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It could be he was too honorable to try and mind control a fellow Eternal. Or Arishem could've built a failsafe into him that made it so he never thought to try and mind control other Eternals, because if he did it would reveal his powers wouldn't work on them because they weren't organic. Or that he'd simply never been attacked by Ikaris before and was in the middle of gathering energy to focus on Tiamut so it didn't even cross his mind. Or, it was just bad writing and another plothole. There could be a thousand reasons.


He also never tried to control Deviants...


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I never said the others were a threat, I said they could fight back against him, and they did. As for Thena, she's weird in that her blades definitely would've taken him out, but she would've had to get a lethal shot.

How? What shows that her blades could take him out?


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Ikaris is faster than Superman. The guy flew to the sun in seconds.


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Ikaris is faster than Superman. The guy flew to the sun in seconds.
you don't know it were seconds. Film could have been removed to save time.

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Unlike SSJ3 Gotenks circling the earth seven times in a single second, because we know in the narrative what fraction of a percent of 1/2hr was

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Do all the eternals have super strength and superspeed to a degree?

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None of the Eternals can harm to any significant degree Superman except maybe Sersi and Druid.
Sersi transmutation will not work because she doesn't know how to use it on living beings at will. She was under great duress (about to be killed) when she did that.

Everyone (except Makkari) would be frozen statues.

Superman has to be seriously holding back (not blitz Druid from the onset) in order to lose (which is possible if Clark doesn't know druids capabilities).


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How's this even a fight?


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How's this even a fight?
Some see Makkari distracting Superman (like flash did to Mos Superman) in order for Druid to work.

But thinking about it. Those two would be moving so fast that Druid wouldn't be able to lock in on Superman.
So Superman should win this.


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Ikaris is faster than Superman. The guy flew to the sun in seconds.


CW Superman is faster than light also.

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CW Superman curbstomps

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