IMO, Liz Truss looks like the most sensible candidate, but is too much associated with Boris' cabinet despite only recently joining. Sunak is clearly the front runner, but is criticised by Rees-Mogg for being a socialist and despite his popularity, really won't hold well for the public. Honestly, he looks and sounds like Ed Miliband with a tan and a blue tie. Did he remind you he's a conservative? Anyway, Badenock is an exciting true conservative outsider and is very popular with the normies, but even her own party is trying to oust her out and unfortunately, young outsiders can be pretty risky, still love her though. I'm not going to acknowledge the other guy because he's "literally who" so Penny Mordaunt. I don't know what to say about her other than her being a distraction. She's young and physically attractive, but doesn't quite cut it as a leader. She deserves to be where she is as a Brexiteer, but her initial hype is already waning, as is Sunak's.
If the final two are between Sunak and Mordaunt, I think Labour will win the next election with a miserable plurality and no real control.
Truss could possibly lead the party to another electoral victory, but would still have a lot of work to do. It feels like the conservatives are trying their best to get a scapegoat candidate for Starmer to govern miserably.
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Sunak held himself best in the debate. Neither Truss or Mordaunt came off particularly well to me. Mordaunt initially seemed to me like a tough nut who could destroy Starmer, but I don't believe that after last night.
Tories have been in power too long, so will probably lose their majority next election regardless. Especially if the economy is not recovered by then.
Which is the big question. Who will provide the best economic growth? One thing I've noticed is everything has rised in prices. Everything! It looks like hyper inflation which means a recession is just around the corner.
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She's the daughter of two Doctors who went to Sussex University and pretends she was poor growing up till 16 in Nigeria, when in fact she is from a wealthy family. Dual nationality Nigeria/British like my own kids are usually at least O.K. off financially. She dog whistles against gays and trans people and like Rishi Sunak and most minority Tories, is upper class and rich in their background country, with a very high degree of status and wealth, so white privilege is not a thing for them. She is a millionaire in her own right through Banking jobs acquired through family contacts (probably, its the nigerian way) and married a bank CEO.
She's also unelectable as pm in the uk at a general election.
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I don't know if she's ever pretended to grow up poor, but I recall her claiming to be a self-made millionaire, which you've later confirmed.
A matter of opinion, but you could say that about almost if not all of the entire party
Again, a matter of opinion. Her philosophy is pure individualism, more so than Sunak, and I don't see how you could compare her philosophy to that of Tulsi Gabbard.
Gabbard supports free community college, national healthcare in the US, legalisation of cannabis, Wall Street reform and Universal Basic Income. Now, these are of course U.S. issues, but you've already compared her to other conservatives and none of these sound like policies the Conservative party would agree with. Although, Sunak did give people on benefits an extra 10er to spend so, thanks Rishi.
Right, but as an individual, she got to where she was. You could say I'm privileged, but I'm not a millionaire because I made horrible decisions in my life. You can't really criticise her for being rich or from a rich background. That's what conservaitves are.
I agree she's unelectable as PM because she really is an outsider with no connections to the higher ups of the party, is young, works only as a minister and honestly, I had never heard of her until she chose to run. I think she's merely doing this to get her name out to the public and, for that alone, is doing really well. I can only imagine the look on Jeremy Hunt's face when he came dead last to virtually unseen faces mopping the floor with him.
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What about Gina Yasheri? (I don't know that many Nigerians)
Your point really stems from, she's from a rich family and is criticising CRT because she was never affected by it. I still don't get why you mentioned Tulsi Gabbard.
Speaking of Nigeria, that does look like a shitty government and must be awful for the people there. On the plus side, Badenoch is a Brexiteer who fully supported greater relations with the commonwealth and Nigeria is in fact, in the commonwealth! So, you can see where she's coming from at least, no?
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Because she is a lot like Tulsi Gabbard a culture war warrior from a minority.
Gina Yashere, didn't spend her formative years in Nigeria. She like many other British with Africans parents eg. Lenny Henry is far more culturally British. Minority Tories like Sunak and Badenoch want to transplant the class system of their ancestoral countries based on colonial Britain and their tribal systems of local nobility back in Britan, it's time is 5 to 6 decades in the past for the UK. Priti Patel is another one.
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It's all about class and wealth for Tories, Rich Muslims, Rich Christian and Republicans. None of these people want anything which affects their control.
Milo Yanni, Gabbard, Badenoch, Tim Pool all cut from the same cloth. If it gets them on shitting on their own... it gets them on.
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