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Do you want Russia to have control over that region of Europe?


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Oh ok, so you're one of those creepy Putin sycophants. Got it.

No Russia is screwed. No western business is going to invest in Russia again anytime soon after this. Russia's stock market is still closed.

They are accepting bitcoin because their currency is effectively worthless now. A lot of places accept bitcoin, it doesn't mean anything.


But Putin's saying it's all lies and that Russia's economy is doing better than ever right now. So it must be true.


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Do you want Russia to have control over that region of Europe?


First let me clarify. When I say Russia, I mean Russia's government.
I think if Russians want a Russian government that they should have that.
The people in the Donbass aren't allowed to speak their native tongue, Russian, because the Ukrainian government made it illegal.

As I already posted the people of Crimea wanted to be part of Russia and the referendum was ignored.

Overall, I don't believe in any form of government. I think consensual governance is possible without being immoral, but that would be based on a competence hierarchy and I know most egalitarianists are allergic to that style of thinking.

What do you think about it ?

I get the feeling you follow the narrative that says big bad Putin is attacking poor lil Ukraine, but against all odds the underdog is holding it's ground, but just barely.
And without everyone's help the lil guy might not make it

But Id rather hear your opinion than paint you with my idea of what your opinion is.

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But Putin's saying it's all lies and that Russia's economy is doing better than ever right now. So it must be true.


Wow you accidentally told the truth lol

"Russia has done far more to build resilience to Western sanctions than the European Union has to improve its ability to survive disruptions in the gas supply chain, the EU high representative for foreign affairs said on Sunday.

Writing in his weekly blog, Josep Borrell accused Moscow of using energy supplies for “political purposes” and suggested any further measures against the Kremlin have serious blowback effects for the EU, including a reduction of gas available to the bloc. His comments came ahead of a meeting of the EU-US Energy Council, due to be held on Monday, in America.

“Energy prices have surged due to global supply and demand issues,” Borrell wrote. “With the severe crisis that we are currently going through with Russia, it has become not only a price issue but also a matter of security of supplies.”

According to the Eurocrat, over 40% of EU gas imports come from Russia, while the EU provides over 60% of Russia’s import revenues.

“However, in recent years, Russia has enhanced its resilience against economic sanctions, by increasing its foreign currency reserves, more than we have done to enhance our capacity to face potential gas supply cuts,” he explained, calling on the bloc to begin developing EU strategic gas reserves and boost investment in renewable sources of energy."

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You want Republicans to make money from Russia's invasion.

That's it.


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You want Republicans to make money from Russia's invasion.

That's it.


I think the neocons are literally socialist (trotskyite to be specific) war hawks.
I'm a right anarchist, I don't believe government's should exist and any foreign policy a government does adopt that isn't explicitly non interventionist is immoral and illegitimate to me. Don't know why I have to keep saying that over and over.

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Wow you accidentally told the truth lol

"Russia has done far more to build resilience to Western sanctions than the European Union has to improve its ability to survive disruptions in the gas supply chain, the EU high representative for foreign affairs said on Sunday.

Writing in his weekly blog, Josep Borrell accused Moscow of using energy supplies for “political purposes” and suggested any further measures against the Kremlin have serious blowback effects for the EU, including a reduction of gas available to the bloc. His comments came ahead of a meeting of the EU-US Energy Council, due to be held on Monday, in America.

“Energy prices have surged due to global supply and demand issues,” Borrell wrote. “With the severe crisis that we are currently going through with Russia, it has become not only a price issue but also a matter of security of supplies.”

According to the Eurocrat, over 40% of EU gas imports come from Russia, while the EU provides over 60% of Russia’s import revenues.

“However, in recent years, Russia has enhanced its resilience against economic sanctions, by increasing its foreign currency reserves, more than we have done to enhance our capacity to face potential gas supply cuts,” he explained, calling on the bloc to begin developing EU strategic gas reserves and boost investment in renewable sources of energy."



^ tl;dr


Reality: If a county has much of its banking systems closed to the world, global trading halted and mega corporations are bailing out quicker than rats on a sinking ship, that doesn't make that country's economy swing upwards.


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^ tl;dr


Reality: If a county has much of its banking systems closed to the world, global trading halted and mega corporations are bailing out quicker than rats on a sinking ship, that doesn't make that country's economy swing upwards.


Yes it does, getting out from u.s. petrodollar hegemony will enormously boost Russia's economy.

The reason why we live in such prosperous conditions is because we depress the economies of other countries.

China nad Russia is sick of that.

The u.s. dollar will crash, gold and BTC don't crash.

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Yes it does, getting out from u.s. petrodollar hegemony will enormously boost Russia's economy.

The reason why we live in such prosperous conditions is because we depress the economies of other countries.

China nad Russia is sick of that.

The u.s. dollar will crash, gold and BTC don't crash.

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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!


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Yes it does, getting out from u.s. petrodollar hegemony will enormously boost Russia's economy.

The reason why we live in such prosperous conditions is because we depress the economies of other countries.

China nad Russia is sick of that.

The u.s. dollar will crash, gold and BTC don't crash.



It's like you have no idea what you're talking about and spouting nonsense you gleaned off whatever "Putin good!" website/boards.

Crypto Crash Erases More Than $1 Trillion in Market Value (Crypto currency can crash)

The Great Depression 1929–1941 (The US dropped its gold standard in 1971)


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Crypto is artificially suppressed by the financial class the same way gold is.
The price of crypto is also linked to the dollar, not the amount of crypto that exists.

The great depression happened because of the effects of central banking.

The end of the bretton woods agreement was the nail in the coffin for gold, but the decoupling of the dollar from gold started with the federal reserve act in 1913 and was further exacerbated by fdr stealing all of the American people's gold in 1933.

I get my information from the new book I finish every 3 days or so.
But good try at a cheap insult, they're totally working and don't reveal you as a charlatan at all.

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The point you dodged again: A gold standard backed economy can crash. Crypto currency can crash. You made two incorrect claims.


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The point you dodged again: A gold standard backed economy can crash. Crypto currency can crash. You made two incorrect claims.


As soon as a central bank exists, it's no longer a gold standard. The premise of your gold standard critique is incorrect.

Bitcoin didn't crash, it goes up and down as you'd expect.

In a relatively free market contractions and expansions are natural.

Booms and busts are the result of state interference i.e. the great depression, the dotcom bomb, the 2008 housing crash, whatever crash comes next, etc.

You're really out of your depth here.

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As soon as a central bank exists, it's no longer a gold standard. The premise of your gold standard critique is incorrect.

Bitcoin didn't crash, it goes up and down as you'd expect.

In a relatively free market contractions and expansions are natural.

Booms and busts are the result of state interference i.e. the great depression, the dotcom bomb, the 2008 housing crash, whatever crash comes next, etc.

You're really out of your depth here.



Um, Russia has had a central bank for a long time, it's literally called "The Central Bank of the Russian Federation", by your own [flawed] reasoning Russia's new gold backed standard would not really be a gold standard and would be subject to crashes...

Um, in mid 2021 Bitcoin fell 45% at one point, that's a crash, not normal fluctuations...

Says the guy consistently making false claims...


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Um, Russia has had a central bank for a long time, it's literally called "The Central Bank of the Russian Federation", by your own [flawed] reasoning Russia's new gold backed standard would not really be a gold standard and would be subject to crashes...

Um, in mid 2021 Bitcoin fell 45% at one point, that's a crash, not normal fluctuations...

Says the guy consistently making false claims...


I didn't say Russia is on a gold standard right now, I said they will be.

The harder a currency, the more it's resilient to hyper inflation. The hardness of a currency is if it's backed with something valuable.
Money printed by a central bank has zero actual value, and is held up by finance.
That doesn't mean BTC crashed, it's called a fluctuation, which happens when violence distorts the market it exists in i.e. incentivizing consumption with easy low interest mortgages and loans.
BTC started at 1/10th of a penny, stabilizing around 38k (for the time being) is still an enormous return and one of the best investments you can make.

Name a false claim I've made.

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I didn't say Russia is on a gold standard right now, I said they will be.

The harder a currency, the more it's resilient to hyper inflation. The hardness of a currency is if it's backed with something valuable.
Money printed by a central bank has zero actual value, and is held up by finance.
That doesn't mean BTC crashed, it's called a fluctuation, which happens when violence distorts the market it exists in i.e. incentivizing consumption with easy low interest mortgages and loans.
BTC started at 1/10th of a penny, stabilizing around 38k (for the time being) is still an enormous return and one of the best investments you can make.

Name a false claim I've made.

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I didn't say Russia is on a gold standard right now, I said they will be.

The harder a currency, the more it's resilient to hyper inflation. The hardness of a currency is if it's backed with something valuable.
Money printed by a central bank has zero actual value, and is held up by finance.
That doesn't mean BTC crashed, it's called a fluctuation, which happens when violence distorts the market it exists in i.e. incentivizing consumption with easy low interest mortgages and loans.
BTC started at 1/10th of a penny, stabilizing around 38k (for the time being) is still an enormous return and one of the best investments you can make.

Name a false claim I've made.
Wrong. Russia is not going to dissolve The Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Which would need to happen under your claims for a gold standard to exist. Admit it, you had no idea Russia had a central bank.

Wrong. A 45% drop in Bitcoin value is literally a crash, just because it recovered in time doesn't mean a crash didn't happen in the first place.

Reality: What Russia is doing right now is buying gold to then use that gold to buy high value and stable currencies like the US dollar and UK Pound, because their Ruble is nigh worthless and they need to pad themselves as best they can for the coming long downward swing. That's not really "going to a gold standard" as you think. It's Russia doing damage control as best it can.



You really have no idea what you're talking about and you consistently make foolish to wrong claims and then spout "but read books in 3 days!" as some kind of qualifier. Maybe think about what you posted for a couple minutes before hitting submit.


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Wrong. Russia is not going to dissolve The Central Bank of the Russian Federation. Which would need to happen under your claims for a gold standard to exist. Admit it, you had no idea Russia had a central bank.

Wrong. A 45% drop in Bitcoin value is literally a crash, just because it recovered in time doesn't mean a crash didn't happen in the first place.

Reality: What Russia is doing right now is buying gold to then use that gold to buy high value and stable currencies like the US dollar and UK Pound, because their Ruble is nigh worthless and they need to pad themselves as best they can for the coming long downward swing. That's not really "going to a gold standard" as you think.



You really have no idea what you're talking about and you consistently make foolish to wrong claims and then spout "but read books in 3 days!" as some kind of qualifier. Maybe think about what you posted for a couple minutes before hitting submit.


the harder a currency the better, Russia is going to make a currency that was harder than the ruble and the dollar.

That crash was artificially induced. It's like saying a man who was assaulted mad ends up in the hospital must be there because his health is bad.
Your premise is once again off.

Russia and china are getting out of the dollar because it's being inflated to hell. They've been consistently dumping the dollar and ramping up cooperation with each other.

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More dodging and distractions.

Let's try this one at a time: By your erudite laden views, when will Russia dissolve its central bank?

(This needs to happen before their gold backed standard can take place as you claimed)


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