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kruegerKid
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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Hey I hear you, Sacrifice is a fool, I told him so myself. I find myself to be pretty well educated when it comes to horror but I consider myself a NOES expert just so you know. You seem to be pretty good with your horror knowledge and Im sorry I meant no disrespect with my previous post to you its just that MY pet peeve is people who throw in their two cents without knowing verything thats going on first.
Anyways I look forward to future convo's, until my next post.....
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Evil Dead
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Location: U.S. F'N A
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Back to the original topic here.............
I think Freddy should waste Jason easily in the movie.........although they probably won't have it happen this way........it is the way it should be.
Freddy is an intelligent mass murder who was killed by the parents of his victims..........was given the dream realm by the dream demons so he could continue to murder.................keeps finding ways to come back.
Jason is a moron (literally).....he is a retarded boy who grew up in a shack in the surrounding woods near Crystal Lake.......ashamed to show his disfigured face to the world which thought he was dead........watched his mother die at the hands of a camp councilor and now seeks revenge on all those who enter his domain of Crystal Lake............very hard to kill........ends up being slaughtered by Tommy in part 4.......only to be resurrected from the dead at the beginning of part 6 as a zombie when lightning strikes his grave..........now he's even harder to kill because he's already dead...........he's still a moron.........he is still a retard.....
(I refuse to take Friday part 8 into consideration when recounting Jason's bio as Jason's bio is already established in the first 4 movies of the series and the makers of part 8 have already went on record as saying that the end of part 8 doesn't fit into the mythology of the series......they just did it because they thought it would be cool to add a supernatural element to Jason by having him revert back to a child at the end as if he had really died in the lake as a boy and been a zombie the entire time.....................................I also refuse to take part 9 into consideration for the same points as I mentioned for 8, on the dvd commentary the filmakers even say it doesn't follow the Jason mythology.........they wanted to add a supernatural element to the movie to make it different from the rest)
who do you guys think will win?
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kruegerKid
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Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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I agree with you totally and I am backing Freddy all the way, it would be a ridiculous shame if Jason won.
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Jul 8th, 2003 08:55 PM |
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TedO
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I don't think either will really win, tho Freddy should. He could mess with Jasons mind in so many ways... mostly by taking the form of his mother. But, of course, like I said, I don't think there will be a definite winner.
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Jul 8th, 2003 11:28 PM |
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BackFire
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id like to see jason win, i like him more then freddy.
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Jul 9th, 2003 12:33 AM |
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kruegerKid
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Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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saw that one coming...lol
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Jul 9th, 2003 01:36 AM |
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BackFire
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i watched new nightmare tonight on tv. pretty decent.
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Jul 9th, 2003 08:40 AM |
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Godshinto
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Evil dead man that show a great amount of knowledge great post. Although I kind of disagree although Jason was a complete moron he was a smart killer and almost completely unstoppable. I think that audiences will have to pick a good guy and a bad guy and since the movie premise is about Freddy going to Hell to get Jason to do his dirty work and Jason telling him to **** off. So I think that audiences will be placing Jason as the good guy here. Although if you're going with who should win because of their powers then Freddy straight out he'll anilate Jason even though Jason will keep comming back because he can't be killed each and every time Freddy would destroy him, but somehow I don't think the movie will go that way. I will be able to see the movie at the end of July I'll have it on DVD by then.
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Jul 9th, 2003 09:17 AM |
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Evil Dead
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when I was saying Jason was a moron, I wasn't stating my opinion...........he really is, that's the storyline.........Pamela Voorhies discloses this at the end of the first movie........he is retarded, that's why she blamed the councilors for him drowning..........she said they should have been watching him closely because he was retarded..........
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Jul 9th, 2003 11:48 AM |
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Evil Dead
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I knew I would remember it eventually..........the fat kid with the curly hair in part 3's name was Shelly........that's who Jason got his mask from.............I knew it was a girls name!!!!
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Ushgarak
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Hey, I thought that treatment of fizzle was a bit unfair. He simply commented that he though the movie would be good, no need to post your first post again at all, KK.
We did also drift rather hugely off-topic here at one point; watch out for that.
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Jul 10th, 2003 12:43 AM |
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BackFire
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the thing that i like about jason is that he's just an unstopable machine.
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Jul 10th, 2003 12:51 AM |
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kruegerKid
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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Maybe just a little to unstoppable sometimes Backfire. It is as though he doesn't even feel pain, he loses an arm continues without even flincing, thats retarded.
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Jul 10th, 2003 07:58 PM |
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Godshinto
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Buffalo, New York
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Well you said before he's retarded. He is completely unstopable that's why I think that he'll be a good advisary for Freddy. But like I said it could go either way. You know the premise of the movie is that Freddy goes to hell to recruit Jason to do his dirty work, so when Jason wins he'll go back to hell and so will Freddy and neither will win atleast that's what I think that'll happen.
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Jul 10th, 2003 08:22 PM |
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kruegerKid
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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I know thats the intention, but even though neither will win, I think Freddy will be capable of doing the most damage.
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Jul 10th, 2003 08:26 PM |
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TedO
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I think Freddy will keep "killing" Jason, who will keep coming back to life and trying to get revenge, only to be killed and ressurected again, and so forth.
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Jul 10th, 2003 08:28 PM |
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kruegerKid
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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Thats what I'm thinking, although there probally wont be a winner, Freddy will dominate.
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Jul 10th, 2003 08:33 PM |
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BackFire
Blood. It's nature's lube
Registered: Nov 2001
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well he is dead already. so he cant really feel pain.
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Jul 11th, 2003 12:38 AM |
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kruegerKid
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Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
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Not neccesarily, because he's dead he's not supposed to die again, doesn't mean he cant feel pain.
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Jul 11th, 2003 01:07 AM |
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BackFire
Blood. It's nature's lube
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basically. just like zombies.
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