Well no Filoni said so. But I don't think he's got to the point where he just outright lies about what George says. He couldn't do that whilst George was in charge at least.
Lucas was in charge of TCW show regardless. It was HIS canon. Just because he had someone else directing, and even writing scripts, doesn't change that.
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I dunno, seems kinda suspect and yeah he was in charge and had it be apart of his Canon. But I don't think he was as hands on with it, since Dave was at the helm.
But I guess this is going off the topic, so moving on.
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Yeah, the Ahsoka episodes were meh(badass as that Inquisitor looked, he was an absolute feeb)... But I thought the Dooku episodes were excellent. They also ended up going this route with Yaddle:
...Didn't really expect that, but the scene was very well-done, imo.
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Dooku episodes were good. Ahsoka episodes were poor. And they absolutely wasted that great villain design...
It also continues the trend of them ignoring and contradicting material from the comics and books. This isn't a surprise, but Disney's claim that everything was all equally canon was clearly hot air.
Also that Inquisitor had what was probably the best villain design of any character in Star Wars, but then he gets killed off after like 2 minutes. What a waste.
Can you give some examples of things that have been retconned? I don't know shit about Disney canon tbh.
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Thats not what canon is though. True canon cant be retconned. A New Hope is true canon, which means it cant get retconned.
The Ahsoka novel got completely retconned, which means its claim to that title was never a particularly strong one.
At best we can place material like that as a lower tier of canon, like the old model (supposedly canon until something with a higher level retcons it).
I mean, in Disney all forms of media are on equal footing in terms of canonicity. So novels, comics, games, TV shows, films, etc... They all hold the same level of authority. You mentioned the Ahsoka novel: yes, much of it was retconned years later by TCW S07 -- but that doesn't mean it wasn't "true" canon to begin with. Continuity is fluid, and is subject to change at any time, depending on the whims of the alleged "Story Group".
Anymore I just look at SW like I look at Marvel/DC comics: everything is canon until it is overtly contracted/retconned by more recent material(ie. the most recent information = the most canon information.) So for example, if a comic were released tomorrow stating that Superman has never actually been vulnerable to Kryptonite, and he's just been faking it all these years for the lulz... Then that would become the new "true" canon within DC.
Likewise, if a novel were published next month explaining that Dooku's entire fight with Yaddle wasn't actually real, and was just an illusion that Palpatine placed in his mind to test him or w/e... Then that would become the new "true" canon within SW.
IOW, everything is canon... Until it's not. /shrug
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Tbf, most comic/novel writers generally tend to weave their stories into existing canon, as to avoid causing any major retcons... Which is how it should be. That doesn't make them a "lesser" form of canon, though -- the events of Darth Vader #28, for example, are just as canon to the franchise as the films themselves.
But like you said, Filoni rarely gives a shit about anything outside of his own works. He just gets to do whatever the hell he wants.
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I suppose comics and novels include the likes of Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple. So if those are 100% canon then no reason the other comics and novels shouldnt be.
Filonis problem is he cant help but retread the same event thats already been done. Like the Ahsoka novel and Kanans Order 66 story.
It's not merely retconning. It's flat out ignoring. Like DT said, they aren't going to have a comic that ignores the film. It's no different then the various tiers of canon in the old EU.
The Ahsoka novel is the big one. The main plot of the book was completely changed. Between this and TCW is was pretty much erased from continuity. Other things that seemed to have been changed are smaller details like when Dooku left the order and the fact that he was not a member of the council.
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