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Would Qui-Gon have joined Dooku?
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Darth Thor
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Anyway think its clear Dooku was a Dark Jedi ally of Sidious before Maul was cut in two. And we witness him become Sidious new apprentice in the episode.

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Galan007
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laughing out loud

I agree. Dooku was clearly a Sith operative/acolyte prior to(and during) the events of TPM... But it now seems like he didn't become Palpatine's formal apprentice until just after Maul's defeat(and Yaddle's death.)


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Sheev
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Looked into it a bit more, and yeah, it seems like this was indeed the case.

The "Medcenter Fortress" entry in Complete Locations (2016) states: "Massive Sith-imbued kyber crystal, slivers from which will be used in Sith lightsabers":
https://ibb.co/YjJd4gN
That said, it does seem likely that Palpatine may have just cut little pieces from the giant kyber he already had on Coruscant, and used those for the Inquisitors' sabers... Which makes sense. After all, properly bleeding a Jedi's kyber seems like it was very much a Sith-exclusive ritual/rite of passage -- and since the Inquisitors were not Sith, I doubt that Palpatine would have been too keen on allowing a bunch of c-list pretenders to do something like that. /shrug

Moreover, it was reiterated that a true Sith kyber/saber must be taken, not given:
https://ibb.co/hczcYjW
So gifting Inquisitors with their red sabers would have actually been another subtle way to differentiate them from proper Sith.
Makes sense.

I also doubt that your run of the mill Inquisitor (outside of maybe the GI) would have even been powerful enough to bleed a crystal in the first place. It seems like it was a difficult task for even Vader and Kylo, so I doubt some weak ass goons could have done it.


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Makes sense.

I also doubt that your run of the mill Inquisitor (outside of maybe the GI) would have even been powerful enough to bleed a crystal in the first place. It seems like it was a difficult task for even Vader and Kylo, so I doubt some weak ass goons could have done it.
in the past there were hundreds/thousands of Sith, as we see on Malachor. It’s unlikely all of them were more powerful than an inquisitor, otherwise they would have likely won


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Galan007
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Yeah, bleeding a kyber certainly isn't an easy task, but it's not really a raw power thing. Since kybers are naturally attuned to the light side, the bleeding process is about pouring one's hate/rage/pain into an existing crystal, in order to attune it to the dark side. That said, any dark sider with the sufficient willpower/mindset should be able to successfully bleed a kyber.

However, if the bleeder is conflicted or not properly aligned with the dark side, the process can result in some nasty feedback that destroys(or in Kylo's case damages) the crystal.


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Bleeding crystals is so edgy and retarded.

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Galan007
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See, I actually prefer the process of taking a vanquished Jedi's kyber and forcing it to "bleed", to the process of manufacturing synthetic red crystals or whatever. /shrug


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Bleeding them is actually cool


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Yeah, I much prefer the concept of Sith bleeding the kyber crystals to their old Legends concept of manufacturing.

The bleeding of a Jedi's crystal fits perfectly with the theme of the Sith: Bending the Force to their will. Subjugating something pure and corrupting it until it's hardly recognizable from what it once was.

The whole process of making synthetic crystals just felt so sterile and matter-of-fact. It's the kind of boring, uninteresting fact you'd only find in sourcebooks trying to explain away every minor detail of a story. It doesn't have the same dramatic, story-telling potential that bleeding a crystal has.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Actually more interested as to why Dooku wanted Qui-Gon on board. He stated about him being a powerful ally. Did Qui-Gon have some untapped potential? And could he have been swerved to the dark side the way Dooku had been ?

Would like more Qui-Gon background as well. How he discovered and began his unfinished Force Ghost training….
I mean above all else, Dooku viewed Qui-Gon as a son. He was probably the person he cares most about in the SW universe.

Whether he was useful or not he wouldn't have cared initially, he might have later when the dark side twisted his mind, but as far as recruiting him early on? Yeah no reason to see why he wouldn't. Doubt Sidious would mind as it's one more force user on their side, and a fairly powerful one at that, powerful enough to be a great asset, but not too powerful as for Sidious to be wary of him. A perfect pawn.


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