StiltmanFTW
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
But unlike Odinson, Jane actually has some speed feats, in addition to the obvious range and battlefield control advantages.
Whereas "FASTER THAN FLASH" Doomsday failed to kill Booster Gold (forcefield off) and resorted to bashing his head with a car door...
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Sep 29th, 2023 02:58 PM
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Also, Mjolnir operates independently of Jane.....and is magic, something that Doomsday hadn't encountered yet.
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Sep 29th, 2023 03:11 PM
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Jane Thor is really the only Thor that matters.
Sep 29th, 2023 03:15 PM
StiltmanFTW
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The only one with a penis, yeah.
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Sep 29th, 2023 03:39 PM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
But unlike Odinson, Jane actually has some speed feats, in addition to the obvious range and battlefield control advantages.
We humans have speed feats in comparison to a snail. Doesn't mean we can fight beings much faster than us on equal speed terms. They're are levels to speed. Superspeed alone doesn't make you immune to being statued or blitzed.
Imagine blitzing an entire team SIMULTANEOUSLY (including Superman) before they can respond (Superman stating that he didn't see him move). How do make 5 plus hits (after standing over 100 yd away) appear as 1 hit that happens so fast that Superman complains of his speed?
Then you have the writer's intent of him being comparable to Flash.
He has bony protrusions which adds to his deadliness.
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Sep 30th, 2023 12:16 AM
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Jane Thor wins.
Sep 30th, 2023 12:17 AM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Glorificus
Jane Thor wins.
How so when he would blitz her and ko/kill her in a matter of moments? DD is a lot faster combat wise.
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Sep 30th, 2023 12:18 AM
StiltmanFTW
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He failed to do that to Booster Gold with his shields off.
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Sep 30th, 2023 01:22 AM
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That era Superman was not particularly impressive, at least by Superman standards. While he had a few speed feats under his belt, I don't put a ton of stock into his dialogue bubbles fretting about Doomsday, and I don't assume that Supes was always written at nanosecond speeds - particularly when he seemed to be moving at the same speed as Fire and Booster Gold.
As for the rest of that team, Jane "I know how to move like lightning" Thor could have blitzed them too. To say nothing of Mjolnir.
Sep 30th, 2023 01:40 AM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He failed to do that to Booster Gold with his shields off.
But he did not fail to do that to Superman and the entire league. Nor did he fail to do that to Guy Gardner.
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Sep 30th, 2023 02:18 AM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
That era Superman was not particularly impressive, at least by Superman standards. While he had a few speed feats under his belt, I don't put a ton of stock into his dialogue bubbles fretting about Doomsday, and I don't assume that Supes was always written at nanosecond speeds - particularly when he seemed to be moving at the same speed as Fire and Booster Gold.
As for the rest of that team, Jane "I know how to move like lightning" Thor could have blitzed them too. To say nothing of Mjolnir.
Superman and flash were some of the fastest (combat wise) beings in comics at the time. Plus we have writer's intent to add to the feats (DD was written to be as fast as flash)
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Sep 30th, 2023 02:20 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
That era Superman was not particularly impressive, at least by Superman standards. While he had a few speed feats under his belt, I don't put a ton of stock into his dialogue bubbles fretting about Doomsday, and I don't assume that Supes was always written at nanosecond speeds - particularly when he seemed to be moving at the same speed as Fire and Booster Gold.
As for the rest of that team, Jane "I know how to move like lightning" Thor could have blitzed them too. To say nothing of Mjolnir.
Not this stuff again
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Sep 30th, 2023 02:54 AM
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Ah yes, writer's intent.
Sep 30th, 2023 03:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Not this stuff again
You think DD blitzes Jane?
Sep 30th, 2023 03:34 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
You think DD blitzes Jane?
A blitz isn't necessary for him to beat her. He's faster than her though, that's besides the point.
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Sep 30th, 2023 03:54 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Ah yes, writer's intent.
Yes, Writer's intent. While Byrne Superman wasn't impressive as per Superman standards, he was still beyond Thor or Hercules level character's ability to ko or kill as it happened in DoS.
https://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum...s.asp?TID=14491
Byrne flat out said no that Hercules could even ko Superman. Jurgens in 91 said Surfer would be lucky to get 1/100 win against Superman, etc, etc.
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Sep 30th, 2023 04:01 AM
carver9
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Lmao... he wasn't even impressive in DOS. Not Jane impressive.
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Sep 30th, 2023 04:09 AM
h1a8
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It's funny how highly people rate classic Mangog because of Odin and the Asgardians. But in those comics the Asgardians were so weak that they were getting killed by falling 20 ft down into water. Thor was getting koed by falling off Mangog's back.
People ignore that but bring up the low showings in DOS. Double standards
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Sep 30th, 2023 04:14 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
A blitz isn't necessary for him to beat her. He's faster than her though, that's besides the point.
But a blitz is what h1 is arguing.
Sep 30th, 2023 04:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, Writer's intent. While Byrne Superman wasn't impressive as per Superman standards, he was still beyond Thor or Hercules level character's ability to ko or kill as it happened in DoS.
https://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum...s.asp?TID=14491
Byrne flat out said no that Hercules could even ko Superman. Jurgens in 91 said Surfer would be lucky to get 1/100 win against Superman, etc, etc. lol
Sep 30th, 2023 04:30 AM
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