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But unlike Odinson, Jane actually has some speed feats, in addition to the obvious range and battlefield control advantages.


Whereas "FASTER THAN FLASH" Doomsday failed to kill Booster Gold (forcefield off) and resorted to bashing his head with a car door...


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Also, Mjolnir operates independently of Jane.....and is magic, something that Doomsday hadn't encountered yet.


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Jane Thor is really the only Thor that matters.

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The only one with a penis, yeah.


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But unlike Odinson, Jane actually has some speed feats, in addition to the obvious range and battlefield control advantages.
We humans have speed feats in comparison to a snail. Doesn't mean we can fight beings much faster than us on equal speed terms. They're are levels to speed. Superspeed alone doesn't make you immune to being statued or blitzed.


Imagine blitzing an entire team SIMULTANEOUSLY (including Superman) before they can respond (Superman stating that he didn't see him move). How do make 5 plus hits (after standing over 100 yd away) appear as 1 hit that happens so fast that Superman complains of his speed?

Then you have the writer's intent of him being comparable to Flash.

He has bony protrusions which adds to his deadliness.


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Jane Thor wins.

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Jane Thor wins.
How so when he would blitz her and ko/kill her in a matter of moments? DD is a lot faster combat wise.


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He failed to do that to Booster Gold with his shields off.


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That era Superman was not particularly impressive, at least by Superman standards. While he had a few speed feats under his belt, I don't put a ton of stock into his dialogue bubbles fretting about Doomsday, and I don't assume that Supes was always written at nanosecond speeds - particularly when he seemed to be moving at the same speed as Fire and Booster Gold.

As for the rest of that team, Jane "I know how to move like lightning" Thor could have blitzed them too. To say nothing of Mjolnir.

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He failed to do that to Booster Gold with his shields off.
But he did not fail to do that to Superman and the entire league. Nor did he fail to do that to Guy Gardner.


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That era Superman was not particularly impressive, at least by Superman standards. While he had a few speed feats under his belt, I don't put a ton of stock into his dialogue bubbles fretting about Doomsday, and I don't assume that Supes was always written at nanosecond speeds - particularly when he seemed to be moving at the same speed as Fire and Booster Gold.

As for the rest of that team, Jane "I know how to move like lightning" Thor could have blitzed them too. To say nothing of Mjolnir.


Superman and flash were some of the fastest (combat wise) beings in comics at the time. Plus we have writer's intent to add to the feats (DD was written to be as fast as flash)


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That era Superman was not particularly impressive, at least by Superman standards. While he had a few speed feats under his belt, I don't put a ton of stock into his dialogue bubbles fretting about Doomsday, and I don't assume that Supes was always written at nanosecond speeds - particularly when he seemed to be moving at the same speed as Fire and Booster Gold.

As for the rest of that team, Jane "I know how to move like lightning" Thor could have blitzed them too. To say nothing of Mjolnir.

Not this stuff again


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Ah yes, writer's intent.

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Not this stuff again
You think DD blitzes Jane?

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You think DD blitzes Jane?

A blitz isn't necessary for him to beat her. He's faster than her though, that's besides the point.


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Ah yes, writer's intent.

Yes, Writer's intent. While Byrne Superman wasn't impressive as per Superman standards, he was still beyond Thor or Hercules level character's ability to ko or kill as it happened in DoS.

https://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum...s.asp?TID=14491

Byrne flat out said no that Hercules could even ko Superman. Jurgens in 91 said Surfer would be lucky to get 1/100 win against Superman, etc, etc.


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Lmao... he wasn't even impressive in DOS. Not Jane impressive.


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It's funny how highly people rate classic Mangog because of Odin and the Asgardians. But in those comics the Asgardians were so weak that they were getting killed by falling 20 ft down into water. Thor was getting koed by falling off Mangog's back.

People ignore that but bring up the low showings in DOS. Double standards


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A blitz isn't necessary for him to beat her. He's faster than her though, that's besides the point.
But a blitz is what h1 is arguing.

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Yes, Writer's intent. While Byrne Superman wasn't impressive as per Superman standards, he was still beyond Thor or Hercules level character's ability to ko or kill as it happened in DoS.

https://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum...s.asp?TID=14491

Byrne flat out said no that Hercules could even ko Superman. Jurgens in 91 said Surfer would be lucky to get 1/100 win against Superman, etc, etc.
lol

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