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But then, if we apply scaling to both.....
Kingpin hangs and fights.....Captain America (I trust we don't need to lay out all the metahumans Cap has fought). Daredevil, who fights Ultron.
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Nov 30th, 2023 04:04 PM
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Before we get to scaling though...
quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
By scaling. Aquaman, WW, and Superboy are clearly WELL above 100 tons strength. He is less skilled than AM and WW but gives them serious problems.
When has King Shark given Wonder Woman "serious problems"?
By my count, on three occasions she's incapacitated him in one move. And I'm not sure that he's ever landed a hit.
So why does he scale off of her?
Nov 30th, 2023 04:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Before we get to scaling though...
When has King Shark given Wonder Woman "serious problems"?
By my count, on three occasions she's incapacitated him in one move. And I'm not sure that he's ever landed a hit.
So why does he scale off of her?
It better not be from the fanboy description on his respect page, then inflated....
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Nov 30th, 2023 04:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
2. Insane healing factor
quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
You shouldn't participate in debates if you don't know basic information about the characters. King Shark has a healing factor. That's basic comic knowledge.
Nearly every other hero and villain has a healing factor. Let's see some feats of what makes King Shark's "insane".
Nov 30th, 2023 05:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
That was a joke. Rage the Thorbag. I was acting dumb.
It was an obvious joke thread
Plus asking for someone's feats is not the same as insinuating a stance (or indirectly debating)
. . .
You're "acting dumb" again then, yes?
The thread itself wasn't a joke. My post in response to your query was:
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Rage
Once again, you've proved you're completely clueless about everything that is being discussed on KMC - including fu cking emoticons - congratulations.
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Nov 30th, 2023 05:53 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But then, if we apply scaling to both.....
Kingpin hangs and fights.....Captain America (I trust we don't need to lay out all the metahumans Cap has fought). Daredevil, who fights Ultron.
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Dec 1st, 2023 12:31 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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You're "acting dumb" again then, yes?
The thread itself wasn't a joke. My post in response to your query was:
Once again, you've proved you're completely clueless about everything that is being discussed on KMC - including fu cking emoticons - congratulations.
I never came back to the page after I posted. So any subsequent posts wasn't seen by me.
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Dec 1st, 2023 12:58 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Before we get to scaling though...
When has King Shark given Wonder Woman "serious problems"?
By my count, on three occasions she's incapacitated him in one move. And I'm not sure that he's ever landed a hit.
So why does he scale off of her?
I didn't mean her in general. But he tanked her blow without missing a beat.
So you agree on KS is more durable.
So you agree that KS is stronger.
So you agree that KS has razor sharp teeth that can rip through steel.
Why is this a fight?
Technically KS can just sit there and allow KP to punch him.
He's armor piercing bulletproof and can tank blows from WW, AM, and Superboy without any visible damage or being stunned.
He can regenerate limbs and flesh. No one can do that except Hulk, Wolverine, etc. Just because others can do it doesn't take away the fact that would make it Damn near impossible for KP to take him down.
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Dec 1st, 2023 01:16 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't mean her in general.
Ok so, when you specifically say he scales off WW:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
By scaling. Aquaman, WW, and Superboy are clearly WELL above 100 tons strength. He is less skilled than AM and WW but gives them serious problems.
that was... a lie?
Dec 1st, 2023 02:04 AM
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Wait, that was an obvious joke. Maybe that was you, uh, "acting dumb".
Dec 1st, 2023 02:05 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Ok so, when you specifically say he scales off WW:
that was... a lie?
Well I threw WW in the mix after I already made up my mind what to say.
If it wasn't for WWs speed and reflexes then he would pose a problem for her.
He still scales off her.
She struck him and it did seemingly nothing to him.
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Dec 1st, 2023 03:51 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
I never came back to the page after I posted. So any subsequent posts wasn't seen by me.
That doesn't make it any better, you realize that, right?
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Dec 1st, 2023 05:34 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That doesn't make it any better, you realize that, right?
It does because it shows I thought it was a joke thread. I was wrong. Happy to admit I was wrong. Has nothing to do with anything anyway.
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Dec 1st, 2023 10:45 AM
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Just remember to take your own advice next time and kindly shut the fu ck up:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
You shouldn't participate in debates if you don't know basic information about the characters.
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Dec 1st, 2023 03:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just remember to take your own advice next time and kindly shut the fu ck up:
I always do. Never participated in a thread (voiced a stance or made an opinion) in a thread where I knew nothing of the characters.
Asking what a character's feats are is doing just that.
It helps me become more informed.
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Dec 1st, 2023 04:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
He still scales off her.
She struck him and it did seemingly nothing to him.
You said King Shark is class 100 in part because of his fights with Wonder Woman. Now you're admitting that he's never compared strength with Wonder Woman, only taken a hit once that "seemingly did nothing to him". Class 100 indeed.
But, let's see a scan that shows that he can "tank blows" from Diana.
Once you get caught in a lie, the problem is that we need to start walking through your claims bit by bit.
Dec 1st, 2023 04:54 PM
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Dec 1st, 2023 04:58 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
You said King Shark is class 100 in part because of his fights with Wonder Woman. Now you're admitting that he's never compared strength with Wonder Woman, only taken a hit once that "seemingly did nothing to him". Class 100 indeed.
But, let's see a scan that shows that he can "tank blows" from Diana.
Once you get caught in a lie, the problem is that we need to start walking through your claims bit by bit.
Trading blows with AM and Superboy pretty shows he is class 100. That is enough.
Also taking hits without damage from VERY HIGH CLASS 100 beings due to natural physical toughness implies that one is class 100 (even if he is weaker).
Now if you believe that KS has very high class durability but under class 100 strength then this is still spite as KP has no way of putting him down.
Glad you agree.
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Dec 1st, 2023 06:02 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Trading blows with AM and Superboy pretty shows he is class 100. That is enough.
Also taking hits without damage from VERY HIGH CLASS 100 beings due to natural physical toughness implies that one is class 100 (even if he is weaker).
Now if you believe that KS has very high class durability but under class 100 strength then this is still spite as KP has no way of putting him down.
Glad you agree.
So... no scan of him tanking WW's blows?
Dec 1st, 2023 06:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
So... no scan of him tanking WW's blows?
Forget WW, KS best fights were with OMAC and his father, who was stated to be well above Superboy. He lost both but did trade blows and showed off his durability and healing. I'd put OMAC well above KP, too.
Dec 1st, 2023 06:55 PM
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