^ Yeah especially given they are the same person (whatever that means). 2 acolytes would give him a greater chance of overthrowing Plagueis, and technically not even break the rule of 2.
But yeah aside from Sol, the shows characters made no sense whatsoever.
And yes either this was setting up a season 2, or it has just needlessly created a load of loose ends in Sith canon.
I mean you have to be a fan to even recognise Plagueis. Not sure what that cameo meant to a casual watching it. I guess they just figured that's Qimir's Sith Master.
But yeah, back of Yoda's head. What a cameo.
If anything it's more problematic to me that pre-TPM Yoda is fully aware there's a former Jedi running around that's completely embraced the dark side.
Also F that green Jedi master for blaming everything on Sol to hide her apprentice turning to the dark side.
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I didn't even understand why the Sith Master (Plagueis) was just standing there like a creepy stalker rubbing the cave walls and shit. The cameo was absolute trash.
I hope to god they don't get a season 2 for this show.
Well Yoda isn't fully aware. Vernestra clearly didn't tell him the true story, so he, like the rest of the Council, just thinks Sol went rogue before getting put down. The Sith reemergence thing is still unknown to the Jedi at that point.
The stupid part is that Yoda couldn't sense the overt conflict within Vernestra to figure out that she was clearly hiding something. God this show was bad.
But how could he believe that? Sol as a scapegoat makes absolutely no sense. He was on Coruscant when Trinity was killed and tons of Jedi would know that. I mean he was literally teaching kids at the time. That's a pretty damn strong alibi. lmao
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That's true. A few of the deaths really can't logically be pinned on Sol, but I guess maybe the mass murders can with Vernestra's lying shit? I dunno.
In this new spin on continuity I guess it might also be possible that Yoda chose to accept Sol being the scapegoat because of the Senate inquisition that is also going on at the time, because it's "cleaner"? **** if I know. This show was just terrible.
I thought that was the point of the end cameo.. That she was going to tell him.
That seems to be the justification. Why she pinned it on Sol. To keep from the senate from finding out that her former padawan is out there having embraced the dark side.
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I interpreted it differently. Vernestra had lied to everyone up to that point, so I figured she was just taking her lies all the way to the top of the totem pole. Because if Yoda bought her story, then it would be solidified as fact among the Jedi.
IOW, no former apprentice of hers that became a Sith and is still out there with a new pupil. Just a wayward Jedi that went rogue for a bit, and then was put down. So in the Council's eyes the mess has been cleaned up, just in time for the Senate inquisition.
Still stupid as ****, but that's how I'd reconcile it if I had to.
I mean you're right in that technically we don't know what she told him, and we know she can't be trusted, so not necessarily an issue (as of now).
But if there's no 2nd season (and I'm not sure I want one), then all this show has done is introdiuce loose ends with Qimir, Osha and maybe Mae as well.
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I don't think there will be a second season. So if they decide to wrap up the loose ends they've created with this show, hopefully they just do it in novel or comic format. It's a lot cheaper, and would still accomplish the same thing. Just have Darth Osha eventually turn on Qimir and kill him. Then have apprentice Palpatine enter the fray and kill Osha.
And ideally I'd like to see Plagueis be the one who taught the lesbian witches how to create life via the Force just to see if the technique actually worked, but that's another topic of discussion.....
But they shouldn't be so casual with that Imo. It just leaves casual audiences more lost than ever. I'm personally getting fed up of explaining canon to friends/relatives. It just means Lucasfilm isn't doing a good job themselves of communicating it.
Like why make a show like this that adds nothing to the Saga and only creates loose ends?
Tbh it's no big deal. Qimir is just a former Padawan who fell to the dark side, not the first under Yoda's tenure (Ssker did too about 100 years before this series, and there was another Jedi Knight too who followed this path). I'm sure Qimir will eventually be killed, and for very obvious reasons Osha won't be the next sith apprentice cuz Palpy needs to fill that spot. Will she die a Sith? Go back tot the Light and defeat Qimir? As long as she is not aware of Plagueis's existence, she may as well live. Yoda and everyone else will think Qimir will be just one of the many Dark jedi who popped up and died
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I agree that it's all dumb as shit, and if the story eventually ventures off into novels or comics, then it just makes things more difficult for casual fans to understand. But canon is canon now.
Aside from Vernestra, no one even knows about Qimir. I highly doubt she'd tell Yoda about this massive deception, so at some point before the PT they'll all either be killed/die or go off the grid somewhere.
Supposedly. But in reality it's more like the old system where there's levels of canon. I.e. comics and novels can be retconned to suit the films and animation.
Regardless that's not the point. The point is your casual fan isn't going to pick up a comic or novel to find out what happened to Qimir. Heck I probably won't, and will find out from you guys
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