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Recent showings is what matters, right Dark (Hulk withstand 100 hercs)?


When did he withstand 100 Hercs? Scans.

Also, aren't YOU the one who always insists on only using last week's scan lmao.


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We've already been through this. You said it's a magical attack based off later verbiage.


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I literally just told you why. Superman was able to hurt him which played a role in Doomsday losing. I don't get what the problem is. Superman literally mentioned recently that he was depleted of power when he fought Doomsday around the end of the battle.

Didn't Superman only hurt Doomsday at the end of the battle?
https://ibb.co/RDy53s4

I.E, Superman still keeps up with Doomsday when DD is getting stronger
And actually starts killing Doomsday(as when he hurts Doomsday, he then kills Doomsday in a short time). So like Abhi said, if Doomsday gets stronger over time and Superman is getting weaker, how's Superman able to hurt and kill him on reserve power when he couldn't even hurt him at full power?

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Originally posted by carver9
We've already been through this. You said it's a magical attack based off later verbiage.


Not me - mod ruling smile
It's called learning from new information


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Didn't Superman only hurt Doomsday at the end of the battle?
https://ibb.co/RDy53s4

I.E, Superman still keeps up with Doomsday when DD is getting stronger
And actually starts killing Doomsday(as when he hurts Doomsday, he then kills Doomsday in a short time). So like Abhi said, if Doomsday gets stronger over time and Superman is getting weaker, how's Superman able to hurt and kill him on reserve power when he couldn't even hurt him at full power?


Wait, characters beating stronger opponents doesn't exist? This is only a Superman trait?


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You started it. 😄


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Wait, characters beating stronger opponents doesn't exist? This is only a Superman trait?

But the point is, what you said actually didn't counter what Abhi and Galan said there

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You started it. 😄


?????

You're the one always laughing at old scans, saying they're older than your grandma. You KNOW I've got your posts ready to be quoted....


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But the point is, what you said actually didn't counter what Abhi and Galan said there


I didn't say anything, Superman did, lol.


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I didn't say anything, Superman did, lol.


So you didn't counter anything from the scans posted.


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Lol... I don't have to say anything, Superman literally said he had NOTHING in the tank...

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Any other Marvel character, you would be drooling over this statement.


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I didn't say anything, Superman did, lol.

Which I don't see the contradictions here? I.E, what Superman said doesn't really change the facts listed by Galan and Abhi(which proved Superman has dynamic strength)

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Which I don't see the contradictions here? I.E, what Superman said doesn't really change the facts listed by Galan and Abhi(which proved Superman has dynamic strength)


Read above, please. I'm not neglecting he has it or not but going by what Superman is saying, that scene isn't a display of dynamic strength.


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I literally just told you why. Superman was able to hurt him which played a role in Doomsday losing. I don't get what the problem is. Superman literally mentioned recently that he was depleted of power when he fought Doomsday around the end of the battle.

Superman was only able to hurt him at the end of the fight, he literally says "Finally, I've managed to hurt him".

https://i.imgur.com/sXfsGqT.jpg

Are you illiterate?


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Superman was only able to hurt him at the end of the fight, he literally says "Finally, I've managed to hurt him".

https://i.imgur.com/sXfsGqT.jpg

Are you illiterate?


Which means he had enough strength to accomplish a goal. The fight went downhill for both after that. There's no other way around it. Superman even admitted in the older scenes that his legs were feeling wobbly. Are you saying Superman is lying above when he said he was tired and drained?


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Read above, please. I'm not neglecting he has it or not but going by what Superman is saying, that scene isn't a display of dynamic strength.

Yeah I read it, mutilple times actually, since you brought up the scan quite often and I was pretty sure you were referring to the scan in this thread(before you even posted it)

Which is why I kind of baffled how this scan related to what Galan and Abhi said here?

I mean, Doomsday can be tired out from the hurts it gets(provide it's potential enough, such in Superman case). Doesn't mean Doomsday doesn't have dynamic strength

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Which means he had enough strength to accomplish a goal. The fight went downhill for both after that. There's no other way around it. Superman even admitted in the older scenes that his legs were feeling wobbly. Are you saying Superman is lying above when he said he was tired and drained?


He had enough strength whilst having nothing left?

Carver, are you drunk


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Yeah I read it, mutilple times actually, since you brought up the scan quite often and I was pretty sure you were referring to the scan in this thread(before you even posted it)

Which is why I kind of baffled how this scan related to what Galan and Abhi said here?

I mean, Doomsday can be tired out from the hurts it gets(provide it's potential enough, such in Superman case). Doesn't mean Doomsday doesn't have dynamic strength


Who said anything about Doomsday? I said Superman doesn't. Just to dig deeper into this. This scene match Superman vs Doomsday perfectly. Ben during the fight is unable to hurt Hulk. He admits that Hulk is stronger and bigger than him. He even screams out that he gave it all he got and that he was about to black out. The last punch defeated the mind controlled Hulk that was bigger, stronger, and more powerful. Does Ben have dynamic strength?

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He had enough strength whilst having nothing left?

Carver, are you drunk


Does Ben have dynamic strength?


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Does Ben have dynamic strength?


No. Because he didn't defeat the bigger stronger more powerful Hulk. Hulk was mind controlled there.

Or are you saying it's a valid victory for Ben? Hmmm. Although, if we are to take statements as true, it literally says the fight isn't about Brawn, but Heart.

That's IF we are taking the scans as they are.

With regards to your Superman scan.....

You want to take it at face value, yes? You are saying he had nothing left in the tank, correct?


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