A. The Joker did NOT kill Bruce Wayne's parents. It was never menitoned, specifie, or explained, and that's the way it should stay (just b/c is a certain way in the movie don't mean that that's the right way)
B. In the movie, Batman did murder The Joker's ass
in the film version of events joker kills batmans parents.
in batman forever robin says something like; "your family wasnt killed by a madman" after two-face kills his family.
and batman says "yes they were". (meaning joker)
batman is trying to explain to robin that he understands what hes going thru and also that killing two-face wont make robin feel better cos batman kills joker in the first film.
Batman's parents were killed by a murdered by a mugger who represents the evil in all society. His name is Joe Chill and the silver age batman actually fought and killed him, i think
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actually its' better if Bruce never finds out.somethings are better left untold as for Batman killing joker,i would NEVR want that to happen.that's the thin line that seperates the operative methods of Batman and the others.He doesnt kill.
Well if Batman does cross that line,then there won't be any major differnces between the two.Both men do what satisfies them,with the exception that Batman does it within respectable limits.
The Joker is not worthy of any second thought. If I got the chance I would crush him instantly and have no regrets ever. It could not possibly be compared to harming anyone worth anything.
If I had the chance, I would put the Joker down like the mad dog he is. That would be the only responsible thing to do with respect to society's safety and this individual.
Of course, I don't actually live in a marketable fantasy franchise which depends upon repeat appearances of quality villains. As much as I sometimes wish I were.
As it is, I love the Joker as a villain, and the only problem I have with having him still be alive is that it makes the Batman look like a weak-willed crazy moron when the Joker has crippled Barbara Gordon, brutally beaten and murdered Jason Todd, and murdered Sarah Essen-Gordon and the Batman won't put an end to the madness. Obviously, the Batman is a stronger character with his inflexible moral code intact, but it makes it pretty hard to imagine it with any realism at times. I'm an old-school comics fan, though. I likes my old-school heroes squeaky clean, and the Wolverines of the world can handle the realistic crime fighting.
And no, the Joker had absolutely nothing to do with the murder of Martha and Thomas Wayne. That was only in the film, for the sake of brevity, irony, and drama. The killer was a two-bit thug named Joe Chill.
I also agree there is more weight to the drive of Batman not ever resolving the murder of his parents.
The movies are nonsense; Tim Burton through it in to be 'edgy' but he was never a fan of the work, so bah
Joe Chill was interesting, but a si said before, it takes away rather than adds.
Two Face 'killing' Robin' parents is also movie nonsense; read Jeff Loeb /Tim Sale's Dark Victory for something more substantial; BUT the major difference between Bruce & Dick is Dick got closure on the murder of his parents where Bruce did not - hence the attitude & anger for one & not the other
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