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Can anyone beat Batman???
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| Batman or Superman |
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25.00% |
| Batman or Spiderman |
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75.00% |
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Darth Jello
Cheese Spelunker
 Gender: Male
Location: Denver Metro, CO |
Guardian Devil, Hardcore, Fall of the Kingpin, The Elektra Saga (specifically 181 and 191), The Target, and Bullseye's Revenge (284-290). In all those issues he has gone completely off the deep end.
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Feb 2nd, 2004 08:03 AM |
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kal-el
kryptonian slag
 Gender: Male
Location: London-UK |
you're so right about DDs Nuttyness being an advantage. I mean, man without fear - of course he's crazy. Batman is formidable but smartness and control aren't enough. DD would be too ferocious and lets face it, his senses really mean that a normal man with no enhanced speed should never really lay a finger on him, his reactions are too good. He'll dismantle the dark knight's nerve centres with those intelligent finger stabs he uses(like on his guardian angel in guardian devil- you know what I mean Darth!).Oh yeah, is the target issue 2 out yet stateside coz I've heard nothin of it this side of the pond?
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Feb 2nd, 2004 10:21 PM |
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Marcellus
executioner
 Gender: Male
Location: spokompton |
I already said Venom would beat Bats just becuase if the two just happend to met and decide to fight, there isnt a weapon on Batman that would do much damage, the symbiote can withstand small and medium round fire, bats could hurt Venom but If Venom gets a hold of Batman its over.
but if bats new Venom was coming for him, Venom would be screwed
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Feb 2nd, 2004 11:50 PM |
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Darth Jello
Cheese Spelunker
Gender: Male
Location: Denver Metro, CO |
it was implied that the fought in dv vs. marvel. plus, batman has lots of toys that can generate a lot of sound and heat.
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Feb 3rd, 2004 12:25 AM |
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Marcellus
executioner
Gender: Male
Location: spokompton |
Yeah but unless he new that Venom was after bats((for what reason i dont know)) I think venom could handle those gadgets easily with the decent spider-sense wich he has.
But like I said if bats was aware of Venom coming after him, Venom would be in for a world of hurt.
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Feb 3rd, 2004 12:35 AM |
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nightcrawer89
movie man
 Gender: Male
Location: United States |
what about wloverine vrs superman who would win.
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Feb 3rd, 2004 03:15 AM |
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Marcellus
executioner
Gender: Male
Location: spokompton |
Supes, wolvies cooler but i think superman could burn him alive until there was nothing left,.....but would he with that boyscout attitude? hmmm now im confused
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Feb 3rd, 2004 04:55 AM |
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Lord Ryugen
No longer hairy
 Gender: Male
Location: Eating chocolate |
I've got to say the Hulk. I mean lets face the only way Batman beat him was by forcing him to swallow enough gas to take out a small country. Take them out the confined space and Hulk would crush Bats easily.
Also even though he's not a hero I'd like to say Juggernaut would finish Bats off even quicker than the Hulk, after all he can't be hurt, Batmans not a telepath and even if Batman escaped Juggs would just knock down Gotham trying to find him
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Feb 3rd, 2004 03:31 PM |
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Mav
Can't think of one
 Gender: Male
Location: I dunno |
I don't think so, with prep time, Batman could make sure that Bruce never even turns into Hulk
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Feb 3rd, 2004 08:17 PM |
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Herr Logan
Critical Bastard
 Gender: Male
Location: Maryland, United States. |
This "he has no powers, therefore any hero could kick his ass" thing has to stop. Think for a second. If that were true, why is he still in action? Jason Todd didn't have any powers, and he's dead. Batman has been doing the hero thing much longer than Todd, and he's still alive and kicking. He's beaten Superman more than once by outsmarting him. He can do the same with most characters. I love Spider-Man, but as I said in another post, I think Batman would win, mainly because he is more of a strategist, more cerebral than even Peter Parker, and that's just how comic books work.
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Feb 4th, 2004 09:59 PM |
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SlipknoT
Restricted
 Gender: Male
Location: New Jersey Account Restricted |
wolverine would kill batman
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Feb 7th, 2004 11:10 PM |
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Punkyhermy
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no one on this thread is actually reasoning.everyone is really stating their own favorites.i said it once and i''l say it again.just because other superheros have superpowers doesn't mean that they are better than batman.they are just luckier.think would peterparker do what he does today if the spider had npot bitten him?nno,he would remain the geeky uncertain kid that he was in the begining.same goes for supes!batman didn't have any oppertunity cross him.he made it himsel!that's wat's makes him a hero!
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Feb 16th, 2004 03:08 PM |
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Herr Logan
Critical Bastard
Gender: Male
Location: Maryland, United States. |
Sing it, Punkyhermy! 
Daredevil would have a tough time beating Batman, but he'd have a better shot than Venom.
Venom resists small rounds fire, true, but he's vulnerable to sonics and fire, and Batman doesn't rely on guns. Wayne is much smarter than Brock and if he knows Carnage's weaknesses, he knows Venom's.
Superman would beat Wolverine, no question, but he wouldn't burn him alive.
Darth Jello, you really think that Daredevil was trying to get Bullseye to kill himself? I never thought of it that way. I just figured he was fed up and got real mean-- didn't consider his psychological warfare went beyond just throwing Bullseye off his game in the fight. That's an interesting connection with Mysterio.
Man, why can't there be intelligent people like these posting on the X-Men threads?
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Feb 16th, 2004 08:20 PM |
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Darth Jello
Cheese Spelunker
Gender: Male
Location: Denver Metro, CO |
Daredevil has fought bullseye, the hand, mephisto, typhoid mary, and many others. I don't think bats would give him much trouble
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Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
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Feb 17th, 2004 02:18 AM |
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Marcellus
executioner
Gender: Male
Location: spokompton |
I still say Batman would have to be aware that venom was after him to beat him. becuase even with gadgets Batman couldnt take venom.
thats just my opinion and Venoms weakness'es are not exactly like Carnages and that could be a fatal error by batman.
Sonics are what truly damaging Venom, Carnage is more weakend to fire.
not to mention Venom does have a spider sense. its not as reactive as spidey's but close. spider-man is 40x greater while Venom is no less than 35x it came down to weather or not Venom dogged bullets. he cant but he dosent realy need to
about the whole Carnage thing somthing happend to cletus's connection with the symbiote when Bat's fought him, thats why he was defeated so easily
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Feb 17th, 2004 04:09 AM |
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Herr Logan
Critical Bastard
Gender: Male
Location: Maryland, United States. |
What happened was that Carnage got scared shitless and his symbiote was thinking of taking the next bus back to New York.
Venom may not be as vulnerable to fire as Carnage, mainly because Brock is tougher and endures more pain than that skinny weasel Kasady and his symbiote is older and more experienced. He is vulnerable to sonics, and Batman knows how to use those very well. Venom does not have a spider-sense-- he has a full-body covering that relays visual information to him from all angles. It's not the same thing, but it helps. Batman might have to take a fall first and then regroup, but I'm sure he could beat Venom if he had to.
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Feb 23rd, 2004 03:08 AM |
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Marcellus
executioner
Gender: Male
Location: spokompton |
still his "sense" is plenty fast, it came down to bullet speed, and unless your the flash you will have just as hard time fighting venom as you would spidey.
I have said before, if Bat's had prep time Venom would be in a world of hurt.
but in a random encounter even if Bat's did manage to connect with a punch it would come down to a endurance challange. Brock fought wolverine even after being stabbed clean threw the middle. So I think in a random fight Venom has about a 65 or 75% chance of winning easily
also im not downplaying bat's, if he wanted he could put Venom threw the ringer...probably drive him insane((to a greater extent))
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Feb 23rd, 2004 03:54 AM |
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Herr Logan
Critical Bastard
Gender: Male
Location: Maryland, United States. |
Batman wouldn't try to make a criminal insane... his psychological warfare is for gaining an edge, not created further danger. Besides, if he wanted to drive Venom insane, it'd be faster to just walk to the corner. Let's face it, Venom is insane. Batman's problem is he's obsessed with being in control, and Venom has practically no self-control at all.
I don't even know what Venom is supposed to be anymore. They've changed his character around in at least two different books. In the Venom title, it's not even Venom, it's just the symbiote, trying to become Wolverine's new Sunday best. The new Spider-Man title showed Brock as a cracked-up, dying cancer patient whose symbiote was seeking a new host. Oh, right, after all the years of relatively forthright back-story and ponderous thought bubbles we got from Eddie, we're supposed to believe he had cancer since before the merging and he never even thought or talked about it? They are scraping the bottom now. Spider-Man did the stupidest thing he's ever done and saved a murderous, suicidal man dying of natural causes by turning him back into a super-powered killer. That's just bad storytelling, and it's really a crappy thing to do to Spider-Man-- making him condemn Eddie to torment and the world to more casualties.
Eddie is practically brain-dead and the symbiote (or parasite, as it should be called) is more insane than Brock was back when he was popular. Batman has taken on crazy foes with lots of strength and put them down. If Brock had some of his caginess back, like when I liked the guy, even being overconfident and crazy he could at least attempt to take down the Bat, but he's nuts and stupid now. Frankly, he's not fit to be in comics anymore. They really screwed up his story, and it'll be a while before they can just forget the new changes. I miss the old Venom.
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Feb 23rd, 2004 07:27 PM |
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Marcellus
executioner
Gender: Male
Location: spokompton |
i know what you mean, sad to say.
but I prefer the real Venom, which is Brock and Venom while there thinking strait. I actually thought run was a turn around for the venom serie's until they decided bald chick's ment good story.....
anyhow old school Venom is what made me a fan
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Feb 24th, 2004 12:10 AM |
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Herr Logan
Critical Bastard
Gender: Male
Location: Maryland, United States. |
I want the "Lethal Protector" Venom back. He's the one who acts compassionate and gentle one moment and murderously vengeful the next. The deluded, paranoid wacko that truly believes he's a protector of innocents and not a blood-thirsty maniac. I miss him.
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Feb 24th, 2004 01:22 PM |
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