60% of Polish women suffer violence from partners.

https://notesfrompoland.com/2020/08/17/over-60-of-women-in-poland-have-experienced-domestic-violence-finds-leaked-report/

Disturbingly, more than half the polish men in relationships probably beat up or even rape their partners...

I'm a quarter Polish. I hope this isn't genetic.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I'm a quarter Polish. I hope this isn't genetic. No, you're safe. The bit suggesting 60% of kids get abused also, is worrying.

Poland recently had an election. Maybe the new government will solve this problem?

Well they moved more towards the middle.

It's worth pointing out the figure in the UK for this stuff is about 7% from all sources.

1% of domestic abuse is too many, imo.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It's worth pointing out the figure in the UK for this stuff is about 7% from all sources. 22%

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/domesticabuseprevalenceandtrendsenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022

"The year ending March 2022 CSEW showed that an estimated 10.4 million adults aged 16 years and over had experienced domestic abuse since the age of 16 years. This equates to a prevalence rate of approximately 22 in 100 adults (Figure 4)."

And that's not sorted by gender. The stats show something like 7% of women in the UK experienced domestic violence in 2022 alone.

Hardly a comparator for a stat about what women in Poland experienced at some point in their adult lives.

Originally posted by Smurph
22%

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/domesticabuseprevalenceandtrendsenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022

"The year ending March 2022 CSEW showed that an estimated 10.4 million adults aged 16 years and over had experienced domestic abuse since the age of 16 years. This equates to a prevalence rate of approximately 22 in 100 adults (Figure 4)."

And that's not sorted by gender. The stats show something like 7% of women in the UK experienced domestic violence in 2022 alone.

Hardly a comparator for a stat about what women in Poland experienced at some point in their adult lives. Agreed you are comparing apples and oranges with that stat. It's 20% for people in a lifetime in the UK, or 1 in 5 overall, substantiantially less. Do you know Canada's out of interest? No troll, just comparative.

1 in 4 women 1 in 6 men for the uk

https://lwa.org.uk/understanding-abuse/statistics/ #:~:text=Domestic%20abuse%3A,and%2030%20men%20per%
20year

Interestingly Canada is 44% of women post 15 in a lifetime... very high... did not expect that tbh


https://women-gender-equality.canada.ca/en/gender-based-violence/intimate-partner-violence.html

Works out to bout 22% that.

The US is less than Canada... I wonder if it's the long cold snowy nights... and in Alaska and Scotland it's as high.

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Works out to bout 22% that. yeah we are very low. Weird when you think how violent our culture is.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
yeah we are very low. Weird when you think how violent our culture is. I wouldn't say so. Most people in the UK just fight with their fists, not knives or guns or chainsaws. haermm

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
I wouldn't say so. Most people in the UK just fight with their fists, not knives or guns or chainsaws. haermm Scotland's knife crime was once the highest in the Western world.

Yes... That's true... Wasn't all of Scotland. ermm

Originally posted by FalconPaunch!
Yes... That's true... Wasn't all of Scotland. ermm Nah Glasgow and Dundee. We also had a full on civil war going on in Northern Ireland.

Yeah. Blame the Irish.


...Biden's Irish!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Nah Glasgow and Dundee. We also had a full on civil war going on in Northern Ireland.

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This was just a couple of weeks ago. Guy in the red was shagging the guy in blacks missus. Guy in black decided to start stabbing everyone.

Turns out I used to work with his mother.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
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This was just a couple of weeks ago. Guy in the red was shagging the guy in blacks missus. Guy in black decided to start stabbing everyone.

Turns out I used to work with his mother. Bloody Hell, that is Dundee Jaden.

Aye. Coldside. Pretty rough neighbourhood these days.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Aye. Coldside. Pretty rough neighbourhood these days. Dundee has always been a very "special" place. It mazes me how many really smart people it produces.

Scotland is ****ed!

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
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This was just a couple of weeks ago. Guy in the red was shagging the guy in blacks missus. Guy in black decided to start stabbing everyone.

Turns out I used to work with his mother.


You're lucky you didn't shag his mother...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The US is less than Canada... I wonder if it's the long cold snowy nights... and in Alaska and Scotland it's as high. That might be part of it. But I suspect that the definition used in the Canadian stat also encompasses more types of abusive behaviour. It goes well beyond physical violence and includes instances of insults/belittling, controlling reproductive decisions, financial control, "spiritual abuse", and using tech to observe/track/control your partner.

Again, not exactly a 1:1 comparison between these figures from each country.

Canada legalised weed. USA, what the fvck are you playing at?

Originally posted by Smurph
That might be part of it. But I suspect that the definition used in the Canadian stat also encompasses more types of abusive behaviour. It goes well beyond physical violence and includes instances of insults/belittling, controlling reproductive decisions, financial control, "spiritual abuse", and using tech to observe/track/control your partner.

Again, not exactly a 1:1 comparison between these figures from each country. UK definitions do all that... US, maybe in some states and not in others. That's always the problem in the US, it isn't coherent on much. Each state probably has its own code.

Pornstars

I agree, Poles are subhuman.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
UK definitions do all that... US, maybe in some states and not in others. That's always the problem in the US, it isn't coherent on much. Each state probably has its own code. The UK definition was expanded the year before that study. I wonder if you'll see an increase in numbers as people increasingly recognize certain behaviours as abusive and self-reporting improves.

This 2014 EU study provides statistics for each EU state.

Looks like 30% of UK women surveyed reported physical or sexual violence from a partner at some point since they were 15, 44% from "partner or non-partner", while 46% reported psychological violence from a partner at some point in the same time span.

Originally posted by Smurph
The UK definition was expanded the year before that study. I wonder if you'll see an increase in numbers as people increasingly recognize certain behaviours as abusive and self-reporting improves.

This 2014 EU study provides statistics for each EU state.

Looks like 30% of UK women surveyed reported physical or sexual violence from a partner at some point since they were 15, 44% from "partner or non-partner", while 46% reported psychological violence from a partner at some point in the same time span. obviously these are very old figures, I'd actually expect given poverty and austerity measures the uk to be going up. Also, with the UK, like with some parts of Canada, high populations of individuals where certain kinds of abuse might not be considered abuse by those populations, are common. Toronto and London once vied for the most different languages in a city. I have no idea if they still do. Of course, Brexit, could have changed things the other way by getting rid of the poles and their violence and prorape views from the UK.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I agree, Poles are subhuman.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
obviously these are very old figures, I'd actually expect given poverty and austerity measures the uk to be going up. Also, with the UK, like with some parts of Canada, high populations of individuals where certain kinds of abuse might not be considered abuse by those populations, are common. Toronto and London once vied for the most different languages in a city. I have no idea if they still do. Of course, Brexit, could have changed things the other way by getting rid of the poles and their violence and prorape views from the UK. I mean, 9 years isn't that much time when it's a survey of what people have experienced at some point in their adult lives. It's not like 9 years would explain a 24% reduction.

And yeah, I would have expected Brexit + COVID to have increased the sorts of factors that correlate with domestic abuse.

Originally posted by Smurph
I mean, 9 years isn't that much time when it's a survey of what people have experienced at some point in their adult lives. It's not like 9 years would explain a 24% reduction.

And yeah, I would have expected Brexit + COVID to have increased the sorts of factors that correlate with domestic abuse. 9 years is a huge amount of time when you have had the societal changes going on in the world, and the changes to immigration and social norms that have almost been a shifting sea. Reporting, Police cuts, stigmatisation, the Trump effect, the rise of the right in Europe, and now its possible fall, strangely in Poland etc. etc. I have no idea the size any of these will affect that reports figures, but affect they will, and it won't be uniform. Add to that net immigration, change of demography for immigration etc. The last ten years have been strange. Your point on Covid is one I forgot, it surely put all kinds of things up... and down. I was in Africa for Covid and the closure there was short because many more people were dying due to poverty than Covid, oh, and Typhus, Malaria, Yellow Fever, child birth etc.

Also remember 10 years with an ageing population might increase or reduce many things. 10 years is about 15% of an individuals life... although that varies country to country.

Also the number of people not in relationships has increased especially in the under 40's. That well affect it, as domestic situations are reduced. Places like Poland have religion holding family structures together.

It seems to have caused aggression in the US more than anywhere else.

Polish women are some of the sexiest though.

Which is weird, as you'd think that would make Polish men less miserable bastards on average.

If you wanna go by stereotypes, Polish women have sexy bodies but are terrible cooks. I understand that's just stereotypes, so probably doesn't apply to all of them.