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Why,if Yoda is the greatest Jedi that ever lived,do you think he runs like a chicken to some backwater bog planet?

Even Yoda couldn't defeat two Sith Lords. As strong as he is/was he was not the "Choosen One" and perhaps he "saw" that the children were the only hope for the future and knew that he would need to train them. I wouldn't say he ran away so much as he was preparing for the future of the galaxy. Vader/Anakin is stronger in the Force than Yoda and with Palpatine at his back nothing could have been done. Luke and Leia for all we know will be stronger than Yoda as well and thats why Lukes able to hold his own against his father.

Vader stronger in the force than Yoda? Never...

....Maybe you're right!

There is already a topic on this.

theEviljedi
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(8/19/00 9:54:45 am)
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Many say he went in hiding to Dagobah because he was a coward.Others say he was ordered to by other Jedi during the hunt.What do you think?

Well, Anakin IS the chosen one and he has a higher midi...*cough cough*...chlorian count. So he could be stronger than Yoda.

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I wasn't hiding.

http://www.episode-2.co.uk/images/ezboard/posticons/10.gif

I bet you were just taking a swim.

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He wasn't hiding...just waiting until he had the opportunity to turn things around..

That still makes it hiding, though.

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But not running scared.

Well, it's running. But maybe not scared.

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yoda in hiding , bet he was s****** himself when luke buggered off to cloud city incase he turned to the darkside and came back to whip his green shriveled arse.

nah yoda aint no chicken , but he's no great warrior either.

What a charming turn of phrase you have.

Yes, very charming...

Welcome to the boards, krautrocker (Is that name implying you are German?)

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I'm sure he wanted to do his best to survive just for the sake of Luke and Leia's future as Jedi Knights. He and Ben were the last of the Jedi Knights and they needed to do their best to stay alive long enough to help Luke and/or Leia complete their training.

its called sacrifice for the greater good. sometimes its harder to wait than to rush into a battle you can't win. yoda is about wisdom not bravado, but you all knew that.

I believe if that was the real Yoda that posted above, he would have said "Hide I did not".

Or "Did hide not I".

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or "Did I not hide???"
He's old after all. He probably can't remember.

"Here nothing that I say"? There is already a topic on this.{see above}

Oh you're no fun anymore EJ.

Or "Hide I not did". He probably says it different every time. He IS very old.

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Well just continue the thread there.

EJ, I'm not going to make anyone, especially a new member go looking all the way back to page 11(!) to find a topic... For the benifit of the new guys I think we should keep the discussion here.

Page 11?????? Wow, EJ, you have a great memory. I'd call that thread as dead as a dodo now.

So where were we, ah yes, the coward Yoda...


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not german just a fan of NEU!

What is NEU?

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Well I did make it...and Dim if your not going to close this then close the other one.

No..it's already dead...closing it isn't going to make it deader..


AND YODA IS NOT A COWARD! He's a wise little man...sort of like...Ghandi.

Like I said before, Obi-Wan probally forced Yoda to hide out in Dagobah.

Yoda as in the intergalactic Ghandi? A non-violence guy, eh, Dim? That's the Yoda-fight-scene flying out of the window. *sob*

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Well even non-violence people will have to resort to fighting if they are to defend themselves from an attacker.

Ghandi didn't.

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You're right...he didn't...I didn't mean for you to take the comparison that far..

I kind of just think Yoda went into hiding because he was waiting for the right time to strike back. When you plan on an attack you plan out certain situations and certain tools. The same way the Sith did. They waited for just the right time to go through with an offensive attack. Yoda was waiting for the right tool(weapon)to come along so he could assure victory. Luke was that tool and when Luke emerged it just so happened that the good prevailed. Yoda was just byding his time for the perfect moment. He knew he was not the one and therefore knew he played a different role, one that would need to survive to train another. And the other would be the hero, after the hero completed his training yoda vanished and became one with the force. because he had fulfilled his own destiny.

Sorry EJ for not realising you had this topic covered mate!! (I am only a wanna-be-jedi after all!!!!!)

I think Yoda went to Dagobah for his hols and liked it so much he stayed! The atmoshere is good for his slimy skin!

Good point MFJ. It proves my theory that Luke is the true chosen one. Only GL has to realise that now.

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That's all right Boshuda.

Well, I like Yoda a lot (can you tell?) and this is what I think:

Yoda and some other Jedi were able to escape the Jedi Massacre. They all went to separate planets, hoping that some of them would be able to stay hidden from the Sith so they could train the Skywalker's to become Jedi to help defeat the Sith. But the only one's that managed to survive were Obi-Wan (on Tatooine) and Yoda (on Dagobah). If you say Yoda ran away scared, you'd have to say Obi-Wan did too.

but obi-wan did run scared. the little wuss even changed his name. he wasn't trying to watch over luke, he was trying to save his own butt. not very honorable at all...

Well, I wouldn't quite say that...I think what it boils down to is they knew that they were in for a long wait...they can see the future (or atleast part of it) afterall. They knew their work wasn't done.

It seems that I stirred up a hornets nest with this topic (even if it has been covered before)

In episode 1 Yoda is the greatest living Jedi, but with the discovery of Anakin and is mega midi-chloridian count, that balance is about to shift.
Anakin in the next two movies will take over Yoda as the galaxy's greatest Force user. Trained by Obi-wan and later Darth Sidious he is gonna kick some butt!!
When the persecution of the Jedi begins,( aided,I believe by Palapatine's clones.... Of Jango Fett?),Yoda,along withthe other Jedi, will disappear from the galaxy ie hide out on Dagobah,Tatooine etc.In an event similar to the Sith rule of one Master,one apprentice,the Jedi will keep a low profile till the time of the Skywalker appears.
Even Jedi would have a hard time against mass persecution, and seeing as they do not take an agressive stance, the thought of an army of Jedi will be an alien(sic) concept.
Obi wan living out in the dunesea is granted the task of overseeing Luke Skywalker until the time is right for his 'coming of age' as it were. Yoda is awaiting his new apprentice safe in the knowledge that Anakin/Vader believes him to be dead (Why doesn't Vader mention Yoda to Luke on their meeting?)I believe Anakin/Vader knows of Obi-wans whereabouts or if not the fact that he is still alive,because he knows Luke has been trained by him. How could he know who had trained Luke when he dosent mention this?
I believe Vader,being the sneaky so and so that he is,has it planned for Luke to join him and rule alongside him after getting rid of Palpatine/the Emperor.(just the opposite of the Emperors plan!)Vader has to keep a low profile where the knowledge of his son is concerned in case Palpatine gets a whiff of his scheme! That's why he dosen't go down to Tatooine on A New hope....everything comes to he who waits!
Leia is not known to Vader and is spirited away at birth to live with her mother on the safe hideaway of Alderaan. Why she dosent take Luke as well could be that with Lukes high midi-chloridian count he was known by his father..Leia isn't as strong in the force as Luke.So Luke is left in the care of Obi-wan and is fostered by the childless Lar's couple(Come on guys Im on a roll here!!)Why Obi-wan dosent look after Luke himself is simple..Luke being an infant needs a mother figure, something Obi-wan is not!

Well what do you think? Sound plausible or a pile of old toss?

Sound really good, you clearly put a lot of thought into that.

it sounds good except for the obi-wan stuff. if the jedi really wanted luke to take down vader why not train him from the normal (young) age. instead of waiting untill he is "too old to begin the training." obi-wan could have raised him in the obscurity of the dune sea as a jedi. imagine luke with 15-20 years of full blown jedi training. oh yeah, my post earlier about obi was a joke. i realize that yoda and obi-wan were doing the brave and honorable thing.

makes you kindof wonder, why didn't Yoda want Luke to be trained?

Fear of him following his father's foot-steps.

but that doesn't quite make sense. luke could turn regardless of his level of training. thats like avoiding sports because you could get hurt. it seems yoda and obi would have better luck if luke began his training at the propper age. besides ..."only a fully trained jedi knight with the force as his ally can defeat vader and his emperor." the little amount of actual jedi training that luke went thrugh always bothered me, even more so after seeing ep. 1 with the padawan's learning for like 20 years before they become knights. i know luke is supposed to be great and all, but a couple of days and a few wise words is not training.

I agree its certainly not much training, but it was all the time that Obi Wan and Yoda had to work with Luke. The Empire wasn't gonna put the Death Star in neutral and wait for him.

Yeah, at that point it was pretty much a last ditch effort..

I wonder why they didn't want to train Leia first. Between the two I would have thought Luke would have turned before her.

Well, remember Ben didn't know about Leia...so he thought Luke was the only choice...I don't know what Yoda had in mind for her though.

He was probally a sexist.

I'm not sure that Leia is was as strong as Luke in the Force and this has certainly be aluded to into the EU where she is most definately a lot weaker than Luke in Force powers.

Yeah, but I think it was reasoned that it was only because she hadn't spent the time honing her skills as Luke had.

yes, she had to be a princess and be royalty, etc. I personally think she was more powerful than look. In ESB she had no Jedi training yet should could speak to Luke and knew where he was (Cloud City)

That was probably more due to Luke than to Leia. Remember, Luke didn't know Leia was his sister then, he just called out to her in the Force.

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Agreed, he directed his thoughts into her mind. I think, if he had wanted, he could probably have directed it at Lando or Chewie but Leia was more likely to accept it.

true, true

Very nice and very BIG yodaadoy9

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Perhaps a little too big.....

Nah, that's allright. It can be a lot bigger I think. Yours in the lightsabre thread was HUGE, but at least that was functional.

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As long as it's not his sig

Nice work kid!

Afraid someone's sig is bigger than yours???

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queeq, don't let the TOWER OF POWER see that. BTW, where the heck is Xizor ?

He's visiting family. He notified the JC but not the rest I guess.

He'll be surely missed.

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