10 thing I cant wait to see in EP2 (hopefully)

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Rimmer
1. Smi Skywalker dying. (she is the worst character in all the films)
2. Yoda weilding a lightsaber. (hopefully against Palpatine)
3. Braveheart style ground battles between Jedi and Clones.
4. General Obi-Wan Kenobi kicking some clone ass.
5. The Ewan McGregor Jedi swagger. (he is the coolest Jedi ever)
6. Queen Amidala in a gold bikini.
7. Qui-Gonns spirit returning.
8.Anakin losing some limbs and becoming part machine.
9. The new sith apprentice.
10. New Worlds

Human
"yoda weilding a lightsaber" hehe, that would be so hilarious!

UnknownBountyHunter
Rimmer, you are sooooo wrong. How could you hate Shmi? She was a helpless lady who loved her son. You've got some nerve thinking she should die. Queen Amidala is royalty you will never see her in an outfit that shows cleavage. The rest of your ideas are pretty cool. But a lady who is associated with George Lucas says that the rumor about Yoda in a lightsabre fight was untrue. How sad, I was looking forward to that too.

sithmaster
Hey unknownbountyhunter Leia was royalty and she showed clevage.Remember the metal thong outfit?

son of rage
The jedi to get what's coming to them.smile

UnknownBountyHunter
1. Agreed
2. That would rock
3. Hell yeah
4. Agreed
5. Agreed
6. I doubt we will see Padme in a golden bikini
7. I agree 100%
8. There you go
9. I agree totally
10. I want to see new plantes too.
You forgot to put Jar Jar diying and Boba Fetts sceen time.

UnknownBountyHunter
Leia was no longer considered royalty considering her family died on Alderaan.

Rimmer
The Amidala thing was a joke or wishfull thinking. Star Wars magazine(uk) had an interveiw with both Lucas and Rick Mcallum and they both said Yoda would be fighting in ep2 or 3. I hope this means with a lightsaber, Lucas said " we will see why Yoda is called the master". I dont want Jar Jar to die as he is a great Star Wars character but I did leave one thing out, I hope Bail Organa is like Han Solo.

UnknownBountyHunter
I hope they are alike too Rimmer, but doubtful. Han is my favorite character but he does have some qualities that Bail would never have. Conceit, OverPrideful, just to name a few. He is serious when it comes to near-death experiences and he does quiet down at times but Bail should have a more regal, high-political figure attitude. Bail should focus more on peace and power than winning a war. After all Alderaan is considered one of the most peaceful planets in the galaxy.

Mara
Actually, in Specter of the Past, Leia talks about how her father bent the rules of his own government to allow an orphaned group of Caamasi people to survive on a small island on Alderaan. He hid this from his own court. (After being betrayed by the Bothans and destroyed by the Empire, the Caamas planet was "inhabitable"wink. He may have appeared to be elegant and politically powerful, but I believe he had a rogues heart. Anyway, girls always fall for men that are like their own fathers. smile

King Jedi
I also want to see hundreds of different species fighting against the clones.

UnknownBountyHunter
The diversity of species in one war would require much negotiation and alliance-making which would not have enough time in just Ep. II. Plus many species would not get along with others very easily.

Moff Tarkin
I just hope we see a Star Wars film as good as ESB.

UnknownBountyHunter
Thank you, Moff, enough said.

King Jedi
No it has to be better than ESB. I also hope we see:
1.more bountyhunters
2.Alderaan and Corrileia
3.Boss Nass fighting
4.And Yoda show us why he is called the master.

Xizor
I don't think any Star Wars film could match the greatness of ESB. In Empire everything meshed at the right time to create the dark brilliance loved by fans of all ages (and not just the 10 and under crowd like in TPM and to a lesser extent ROTJ). I give Irv Kershner more credit for this than Lucas. I think that Lucas would have to do the following three things fo ep2 to come close to the success of Empire:
1.) Hire a new director. Lucas proved in TPM that he is out of touch with modern acting and directing tactics. EP2 needs a director who is experianced with dark films , trilogies and the sci-fi genre. Spielberg would be perfect.
2.) With the clone Wars. Anakin's Fall, The Republic's fall, the rise of the sith and the Empire, and Padme + Schmi's presumed death, why in the world do you make a love story out of Ep2? Concentrate on pulling movie brilliance
out of those dark topics, make the movie PG-13 and you'll have success.
3.) With a new director you'll get better cast and character cohesiveness. Just PLEASE give those guys a script they can work with.

Xizor
Keeping with my trend of typing rediculously long responses I'm going to give the 25 things I'd like to see in Ep2:
1.) A darker more plot driven film directed at an older audience. It would have to have a more mature sophisticated script(like ESB).
2.) Fight scenes that combine martial arts out of the Matrix with ground battles from Braveheart. Mesh that with star wars weapondry and many diffrent aliens all fighting against clones.
3.) Incredible lightsaber battles. Take the 30 seconds of Ob1 vs. Maul from TPM and spread that kind of intensity and skill throughout all of Ep2. Feature many new Jedi with new sabers matched up against Dark Jedi and Sith.
4.) Anakin falling in love (keep this topic small like in ESB).
5.) During the brief love story I'd like a sexy scene with Natalie Portman.
6.) Anakins fall to the dark side.
7.) The birth and immediate seperation of the twins. Luke going to Tatooine and Leia living with Mom untill she's dumped on Tatooine in Ep3(right before Amidala is killed).
8.) Characters from the novels:
a) Joruus C'Baoth
b) Thrawn
c) Prince Xizor
d) Garm Bel Iblis
e) Gilad Pallaeon
9.) The death of Schmi Skywalker
10.) Political upheavel in the senate. Vicous verbal battles between senators.
11.) The Clone Wars, and they better be huge!
12.) A secret Sith Mandolorian alliance to start the Clone Wars.
13.) The beginnings of alien descrimination(and maybe Jedi descrimination).
14.) The deaths of Mace Windu and Ki-Adi Mundi, hopefully you could get some force lightning involved in them.
15.) The realization that C'Baoth was Qui-Gon's Master and that Qui-Gon had dark intentions in training Anakin.
16.) New Planets:
a) Alderaan
b) Kashykk
c) Mon Calamari
d) Correlia
e) Mandalore
17.) A Sith Lord as powerful and evil as Maul but whose appearance is very diffrent.
18.) The evil intelligence of Palpatine presented in his lying and his secret schemings against the senate and his deceiving of the public.
19.) The revelation that Palpatine is Sideous.
20.) The enslavement of the Gungans, Mon Calamari and Wookies. Plus ground battles on all 3 of their planets that features: Bounty Hunters, Boss Nass fighting and a Wookie
Jedi.
21.) Boba Fett masked and unmasked.
22.) The best space battle ever seen that includes glimpses of the future Star Destroyers and TIE fghters.
23.) A 2 and a 1/2 hour movie rated PG-13.
24.) A gripping nail biting conclusion like in Empire.
25.) The death of Jar Jar.

UnknownBountyHunter
In response to Xizor's long response:

1)The OT as I remember wasn't directed at an older audience, GL himself noted that the intention was for teens and children. I agree to the fact that ESB was more sophisticated with the plot factor than the other two, but none are intended only for adults.
2)I though Ep. I did a good job with those. I mean the Naboo battle could have been bigger but Ray Park and OB1 did an excellent job displaying the martial arts talent in the light-sabre scenes.
3)I would love to see that action, but most others, especially the critics, would think its dull after the first time you see the film, because you aren't expecting a high point in the movie, when the high points are from beginning to end.
4)Agreed
5)Sorry Xizor, complete disagreement on this one, Star Wars is an action-type movie, not a porno.
6)Agreed.
7)Might be too early for the twins' birth. If Luke and Leia would both end up on Tatooine:
a)How long would they be there
b)They couldn't be there long enough for them to remember each other.
c)Leia would eventually have to be re-separated from Luke and end up on Alderaan.
Overall the Leia going to Tatooine is too doubtful.
cool Not all of them but would like a couple:
a)Thrawn
b)Xizor
9)Only if she dies defending the slaves, just being killed has no point.
10)Sounds good, but there's a lot of contradiction behind this. I need to point out some things that could conflict with this:
a)Do all the reps speak English (Or Basic), to wear we would understand them, or more-or-less themselves.
b)If they didn't would the have to revert to translators or nonsense flying back and forth.
c)As witnessing the chaos in Vallorums debate about Naboo's fate, not many spoke Basic, because you would have been able to make out a slight amount of Basic.
d)Doubtful they all or even a most speak Basic, considering the UN reps need translators.
11)Agreed
12)I don't like the idea

Xizor
I didn't mean a strictly adult audience at all, simply a movie that people over 10 could really appreciate. The OT was geared toward kids but adults really got into it as well(except the ewoks) and that's what should happen in Ep2, if adults like it teens will like it, and if teens like it kids will like it to. I didn't mean porno, simply give Portman Leia's swimgear and put her in a love scene like we saw with Han + Leia on the Falcon. Leia would never go with Luke to Tatooine. Luke would be sent alone to live with Owen and Beru while Leia stays with her mom (so she vaguely remembers her) and then goes to Alderaan. The senate debate could be kept to Palpatine and Chris Lee vs. Mon Mothma, Bail and Bel Iblis.

Xizor
Unknownbountyhunter, I liked the idea of Mandalore as the clone factory planet and the Mandolorians as the the planet guards who help kick Jedi ass but then are exterminated. If that looks doubtful how do you think they might better fit into the movie?

UnknownBountyHunter
Oh I thought you meant a group of the Sith made up of entire Mandalorians, the clone factory is a good idea.

The great Wise Master Brit Hunt
Bravo bravo bravo. You guys have good ideas. Maube you like to join my site cause I need tons more memebers.
May the force be with you all.

Xizor
Unknownbountyhunter, you didn't comment on the other half of my list.

UnknownBountyHunter
I know I had to leave, I will comment on those by Tuesday, I have been real busy, I own a video game and card store, and kids have piled in because their is a tournament this week. Sorry <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT="erm">

Xizor
Unknownbountyhunter, you mentioned that you'd like to see Khomm as the cloning factory planet in Ep2. Do you know if Lucas intended for Khomm to have this role or was the planet created by Kevin J. Andersen?

UnknownBountyHunter
The planet wasn't GL original work, I am unsure of who invented it, but I know it first appeared in a book sometime after the Thrawn Trilogy during an uprising of clones.

Xizor
I first heard of it in Kevin J. Anderson's Jedi Acedemy Trilogy. Is this what your thinking of? Also how about the 2nd half of my listsmile

UnknownBountyHunter
I will try to get a good complete detailing of my answers to your other suggestions, I have had a real busy time at work. Check it out, say Wednesday.

The Maker
1.Shmi will die
2. This will happen in Ep2 and Ep3
3. So will this
4. We will see what a great Jedi Obi-Wan was.TPM was only the beggining for him.
5.He is a great actor
6. Maybe
7. Not in Ep2
8. Anakin will lose most of his limbs.
9. He will be someone we have heard of before
10. There will be new and exciting planets in Ep2

King Jedi
I wish the Maker would tell us how he knows this. The only one on the list that is fact is Yoda fighting.

UnknownBountyHunter
Maker your about twenty yards short of making any sense at all. "Anakin will lose most of his limbs" What is he gonna go fall onto the conveyor belt of a lumber factory and come out with one arm left?

Xizor
Unknownbountyhunter, since this was one of my favorite ites and I might not be coming back will you give me the pleasure of responding to all 25 things I want to see in Ep2. Thanks.

UnknownBountyHunter
You can still contact Raz about a possible unbanishment. As for Solardarth I dunno.

King Jedi
Anakin will probably lose most of his limbs. He is going to be involved in the Clone Wars and then hunting down and killing the Jedi. Are you saying he will come through that without a scratch? We know he lost an arm from what we saw at the end of Jedi and he will probably lose a lot more.

FlameSolo
are you two teammates or something, I havent read a post yet where you contradict opinions (Well Ive only been here for 2 days, but still)

King Jedi
Which two people are you talking about?

King Jedi
I've just read that Nick Gillard has said Yoda won't be using a lightsaber in Ep2. Oh well, that's one of my wishes that isn't going to happen. Maybe Ep3.

UnknownBountyHunter
Agreed. And another lady from Britain, can't remember her name said that the Sabre-yielding Yoda wasn't gonna appear.

UnknownBountyHunter
1) A darker more plot driven film directed at an older audience. It would have to have a more mature sophisticated script(like ESB).
2) Fight scenes that combine martial arts out of the Matrix with ground battles from Braveheart. Mesh that with star wars weapondry and many diffrent aliens all fighting against clones.
3) Incredible lightsaber battles. Take the 30 seconds of Ob1 vs. Maul from TPM and spread that kind of intensity and skill throughout all of Ep2. Feature many new Jedi with new sabers matched up against Dark Jedi and Sith.
4) Anakin falling in love (keep this topic small like in ESB).
5) During the brief love story I'd like a sexy scene with Natalie Portman.
6) Anakins fall to the dark side.
7) The birth and immediate seperation of the twins. Luke going to Tatooine and Leia living with Mom untill she's dumped on Tatooine in Ep3(right before Amidala is killed).
cool Characters from the novels:
a) Joruus C'Baoth
b) Thrawn
c) Prince Xizor
d) Garm Bel Iblis
e) Gilad Pallaeon
9) The death of Schmi Skywalker
10) Political upheavel in the senate. Vicous verbal battles between senators.
11) The Clone Wars, and they better be huge!
12) A secret Sith Mandolorian alliance to start the Clone Wars.
13) The beginnings of alien descrimination(and maybe Jedi descrimination).
14) The deaths of Mace Windu and Ki-Adi Mundi, hopefully you could get some force lightning involved in them.
15) The realization that C'Baoth was Qui-Gon's Master and that Qui-Gon had dark intentions in training Anakin.
16) New Planets:
a) Alderaan
b) Kashykk
c) Mon Calamari
d) Correlia
e) Mandalore
17) A Sith Lord as powerful and evil as Maul but whose appearance is very diffrent.
1cool The evil intelligence of Palpatine presented in his lying and his secret schemings against the senate and his deceiving of the public.
19) The revelation that Palpatine is Sideous.
20) The enslavement of the Gungans, Mon Calamari and Wookies. Plus ground battles on all 3 of their planets that features: Bounty Hunters, Boss Nass fighting and a Wookie
Jedi.
21) Boba Fett masked and unmasked.
22) The best space battle ever seen that includes glimpses of the future Star Destroyers and TIE fghters.
23) A 2 and a 1/2 hour movie rated PG-13.
24) A gripping nail biting conclusion like in Empire.
25) The death of Jar Jar.
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1)The OT as I remember wasn't directed at an older audience, GL himself noted that the intention was for teens and children. I agree to the fact that ESB was more sophisticated with the plot factor than the other two, but none are intended only for adults.
2)I though Ep. I did a good job with those. I mean the Naboo battle could have been bigger but Ray Park and OB1 did an excellent job displaying the martial arts talent in the light-sabre scenes.
3)I would love to see that action, but most others, especially the critics, would think its dull after the first time you see the film, because you aren't expecting a high point in the movie, when the high points are from beginning to end.
4)Agreed
5)Sorry Xizor, complete disagreement on this one, Star Wars is an action-type movie, not a porno.
6)Agreed.
7)Might be too early for the twins' birth. If Luke and Leia would both end up on Tatooine:
a)How long would they be there
b)They couldn't be there long enough for them to remember each other.
c)Leia would eventually have to be re-separated from Luke and end up on Alderaan.
Overall the Leia going to Tatooine is too doubtful.
Not all of them but would like a couple:
a)Thrawn
b)Xizor
9)Only if she dies defending the slaves, just being killed has no point.
10)Sounds good, but there's a lot of contradiction behind this. I need to point out some things that could conflict with this:
a)Do all the reps speak English (Or Basic), to wear we would understand them, or more-or-less themselves.
b)If they didn't would the have to revert to translators or nonsense flying back and forth.
c)As witnessing the chaos in Vallorums debate about Naboo's fate, not many spoke Basic, because you would have been able to make out a slight amount of Basic.
d)Doubtful they all or even a most speak Basic, considering the UN reps need translators.
11)Agreed
12)I don't like the idea
13)I think this was partially covered, with the Gungans being disliked by the Naboo, and vice versa. but yes more would be nice.
14)Their deaths, yes, but I do not want the only cause of their deaths to be force lightning. Maybe on one Jedi's death, but I want each death to be extraordinary in its own way, so they all have a unique way of experiencing death.
15)C'Boath is to little-known, and explaining the info in Ep. II, would be to stressful to make and listen too, therefore I want his master to be a member of the Jedi council, say Yoda or Ki-Adi-Mundi.
16) New Planets:
a) Alderaan-Definitely
b) Kashykk-Definitely
c) Mon Calamari-How would this fit in?
d) Correlia-Yes
e) Mandalore-Yes
17)Of course
1cool Yes, definitely
19)You mean to come straight out and say it? I already noticed.
20)Gungans and Wookies, yes. Sorry Xizor, but as a Star Wars fan I thought you'd remember that Mon Calamari is an ocean planet, how is a ground battle possible?
21)I don't want him unmasked (I like the secrecy)
22)With the Clone Wars, this would be hard to fit into the plot.
23)Yes, but why not longer?
24)Yes
25)Don't know about death, but at least a fate decision

King Jedi
That's a long list! One of my wishes isn't going to happen-Yoda using a lightsaber, but with that list you will definatley get at least one right.

Xizor
Thank you very much UnknownBountyHunter!smile Now take a deep breathe as I question some of the responses you gave to my list. Here we go...
1.) Not a movie geared at adults but a GREAT movie that won't turn off teens and all audiences will love. If a 15 year old thinks it's cool those opinions will wash down to the 6 year olds who will like it MORE if they know the big kids like it(the first movies did this).
2/3.) Take the 30 sec. OB! vs. Maul, ADD Matris martial arts and spread it out through the whole movie(w/ new jedi and new weapons) and it's entertaining.
5.) NOT porno, what fool wants that in SW's? Combine Leia's outfit with a tender scene like we see between her and Han on the Falcon.
7.) REAL sorry about this, I meant Leia goes to Alderaan NOT Tatooine. Check Amidala's topic to see what I want to happen to the queen and her kids.
9.) Certainly, Have her and Ani free the slaves, but in the process she's killed by Sing or the sith, Anakin blames himself or Ob1 and begins his dark side anger.
10.) Limit this to English speaking verbal battles between a select few. I'd definetly like to see Mothma/Iblis/Organa vs. Palpatine and Chris Lee as the main course.
12.) We discussed how I meant this to be.
13.) I meant ALL aliens should be discriminated against. The end of Ep1 was to lovey Barney humans and aliens are friends kind of thing, we need Palpatine to start some hard core hatred.
14.)Force lightning on Mace(Jackson's iffy casting makes me want this cardboard character fried to a crisp), lets check out Ki-Adi's dueling skills before seeing the new sith cut him down.
15.)Maybe, but for his character you could just clone the leader of the Dark Jedi, have his name be C'Boath, and show him as a guy the councel fears and who was Qui-Gon's bizarre and dark master.
16.) Mon Cal could be briefly shown in Ep3 slave wars.
19.) Just show it to the audience, have both characters merge as one by playing both roles in one scene. Sideous sens a holo to his sith, turns it off, removes his cloak and is revealed as Palpatine and then turns on the holo and speaks to senator Chris Lee. Sounds good.
20.) Save the slave wars for Ep3, I envisioned a Mon Cal battle as beautiful floating ocean cities that are blasted and overrun with stormtroopers.
21.) A very good point. I had envisioned Jet Li being an unknown bounty hunter who's around for the climatic clone wars ending and Mandolorian destruction. He escapes by stealing Mandolorian armor and naming himself Boba Fett. In Ep3 with no more Mandolorians his apperence is very threatening.
22.) you could fit it in by having these new ships being the ones that guard the clone factory planet.
23.) Make it REAL long, I'd love that. I felt 2 and 1/2 was stretching it since Lucas was reluctant to push his first 4 past 2 hours.
25.) Whatever, just make him disapear and fast.
Respond to this whenever, since it's real long.
As for KingJedi, I better get more then 1 of these right.

UnknownBountyHunter
Will get responses to these by Sunday.

Xizor
Great.

UnknownBountyHunter
Yup smile

Xizor
It's Sundaysmile smile

UnknownBountyHunter
Post reopened. smile

Xizor
Rock onsmile Now that we're open for business I'd like to see 2 things:
1) The things new members want to see in Ep2
2) UBH reply to the reply I gave him a week agosmile

UnknownBountyHunter
If I couldn't type 60 WPM, I wouldn't be responding so much smile

1.) Agreed
2/3.) I still don't understand where the high point of the movie would be?
5.) Ahh!
7.) Oh, okay, Agreed.
9.) YES!, that's what I wanna hear.
10.) No doubt
12.) *sigh* I know, but my ideas better stick out tongue
13.) Not all, but most. I mean in TPM the Gungans were discriminated against, and many aliens had fights against eachother.
14.)I kind of want Ki-Adi-Mundi to live, but since he isn't in the OT, he will get killed. Also, his dualing skills BEST be showed.
15.) Sure
16.) How could Mon Cal have a slave war? Its ALL water.
19.) Sounds good.
20.) Please disregard the other comment about Mon Cal, I completely forgot about floating cities. Well there are an awful lot of them. And what about the underwater cities??
21.) Thank you
22.) Oh, ok
23.) They all better be longer than 2 hours.
25.) Okay wink

Jedimaster3838
1. A new Sith
2. Obi-Wan fighting Jango Fett
3. Anakin killing the new Sith, using the Dark Side, to end the movie
4. A Wedding between Anakin and Amidala
5. Palpatine using the Force to fight someone
6. CLONEWARSCLONEWARSCLONEWARSCLONEWARSCLONEWARS
7. Mace Windu in battle
8. Alderran
9. Anakin and Obi-Wan verbally sparring with the Jedi Council about Anakin's future
10. The death of Gungan General Jar Jar Binks

King Jedi
It's good to see this back and how peoples wishes have changed.

Ratcat
Popcorn, a large diet coke and a hot dog.

Oh, you mean on screen... Sorry. smile

Well Yoda kicking butt has to be a must.
Lot's of Jedi Knights battling with Lightsabers.
Brand New X-Wing and Y-Wing fighters

That's about all for now.

Darth Daft
More action scenes, but not interfering too much with the storyline.

Really exciting and cool lightsabre duels

More Jedi Knights and Dark Jedi

Huge Space Battles

I'll think of more some other time...

Ratcat
I want to see this major Jedi battle. The scene from the fan
trailer at TFN really put a chill down my back with anticipation.

Darth Daft
Yeah I know exactly what you mean. The fan trailer really got
me excited even though it was fake.
GL has to use the Jedi
in some sort of huge battle at some time, although I reckon he'
ll save it till Episode 3. That's when they loose most of their
power and the Republic is destroyed by the Empire.

Jedi Mercenary
this thing is still going?? It was here when I left

Dim
Maybe we'll see a Los Alamos type hold out...Am I the only one who thinks that EP2 is going to "sneakier" in that we're going to see more sabatoge and less open battles...at this point I wonder if they'll be fighting more against guerilla tactics and less against any known enemies.

Merc, I know you haven't been here a while so I'll just let you know that your previous post didn't really have any reason...Try not to make a meaniless post...There's been alot of that recently so everyone's trying to be better about it.. I'm not griping at you about it...I just thought I should let you know...okay? smile smile

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