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Has this one been done before? Darth Maul vs Anakin (near the end of ROTS) when he turned to the dark side, fighting the way he did against Obi Wan.

ROTS Anakin

Anakin would waste him... I actually wrote a story about this... it is in the Star Wars storytime thread here.

No problem Anakin.

ani

Anikan no compition

Anakin wins

Maul.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Maul.

Maul was ways below Jedi Knight Anakin/Vader. He was below him when he was Revived by Mother Talzin, and stayed below him ever since.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Maul was ways below Jedi Knight Anakin/Vader. He was below him when he was Revived by Mother Talzin, and stayed below him ever since. Because they fought and thats been proven.

What about the time that Maul stomped Kenobi in a similar way that Dooku did?

Or beat Savage in like, less then a second, in real-time.

Anakin.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Because they fought and thats been proven.

What about the time that Maul stomped Kenobi in a similar way that Dooku did?

Or beat Savage in like, less then a second, in real-time.

I can list out of context fights, and horrible ABC logic too.

What about the time when Anakin ragdolled the Son and Daughter simultaneously? What about the time when Kenobi beat Maul and Savage simultaneously? What about the time Anakin stomped Dooku? What about that other time TCW Anakin stomped Dooku?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Because they fought and thats been proven.

What about the time that Maul stomped Kenobi in a similar way that Dooku did?

Or beat Savage in like, less then a second, in real-time.


What's been proven?

Stomped Kenobi? I'm assuming you're referring to Sith Hunters where Kenobi ran towards Maul trying to free a prisoner and got caught off guard with a force choke?
Well ok, then what about the time Kenobi beat Maul+Opress together? See how that works?

It wasn't less than a second. And Given the pasting Kenobi gave Savage in the same episode I wouldn't say that was beyond Skywalker.

This is Anakin at the end of RotS when he's freaking out and losing to Obi-Wan. Maul can take him.

Maul wins.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What's been proven?

Stomped Kenobi? I'm assuming you're referring to Sith Hunters where Kenobi ran towards Maul trying to free a prisoner and got caught off guard with a force choke?
Well ok, then what about the time Kenobi beat Maul+Opress together? See how that works?

It wasn't less than a second. And Given the pasting Kenobi gave Savage in the same episode I wouldn't say that was beyond Skywalker. No, the time that Kenobi tried to fight Maul in single combat above Opress and Ventress and got his ass kicked like a *****.

Just so you know, Maul only got better with time, as he's apparently at his best in Rebels.

Kenobi was holding them off, Maul force blasted his ass and Kenobi was nearly KO'ed.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I can list out of context fights, and horrible ABC logic too.

What about the time when Anakin ragdolled the Son and Daughter simultaneously? What about the time when Kenobi beat Maul and Savage simultaneously? What about the time Anakin stomped Dooku? What about that other time TCW Anakin stomped Dooku?

Anakin kicking him once doesn't necessarily mean he stomped him.

Beating someone and stomping are two VASTLY different things.

Stomping someone is when the fight ends pretty quick, and when its VERY VERY clear who is superior and who is going to win. My first going to see ROTS, I thought Dooku was going to win the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctN5s8z3E8E

This is actually kind of interesting considering Obi Wan and Anakin in that fight were two halves of the same whole and new eachother's fighting styles inside and out.

Anakin destroys

Originally posted by Kurk
Anakin destroys How dare you.

Wasn't Anakin an emotional wreck, because he was facing Obi-Wan, mainly?

I'm not exactly sure how that would correlate to Maul, honestly

Originally posted by Nephthys
This is Anakin at the end of RotS when he's freaking out and losing to Obi-Wan. Maul can take him.

Kenobi knew his moves inside and out and still had to backtrack most of the fight. Despite his energy efficient form, he was breathing more heavily at the end than Anakin was. Maul loses.

Maul isn't like a father to Anakin here so I doubt half of his emotional status applies here.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctN5s8z3E8E Thanks for the link to the obviously not real, never-actually-happened Vision.

Originally posted by Jmanghan


1)No, the time that Kenobi tried to fight Maul in single combat above Opress and Ventress and got his ass kicked like a *****.

2)Just so you know, Maul only got better with time, as he's apparently at his best in Rebels.

3)Kenobi was holding them off, Maul force blasted his ass and Kenobi was nearly KO'ed.


1)That was After Kenobi had just been battered by both brothers.

2)And Skywalker also improved through TCW plus post CW. Rebels Maul states he can't take Vader/Skywalker alone. That's always been the case since Maul's revival tbh.

3)Smashing Opress's knee in and chopping his arm off is more than just holding them off. Maul used the Force blast to basically run away and admit defeat "come brother, this plan has failed." Not saying Kenobi > Maul, but he looked the best in that fight. Let's not also forget they had a 1 v 1 in the same episode with neither looking superior (but Kenobi does land that kick which puts Maul on his knees).

Maul skill wise has always owned Kenobi despite DT's obsession with Kenobi.

Well, Anakin's emotional hindrance can't really be applied against Maul. And without it, he ensures that Maul stays dead.

They're both emotional wrecks all the time anyway. There are way too many arguments to make for both sides but Anakin is 'the chosen one' so he wins every time

Originally posted by Darth Thor
1)That was After Kenobi had just been battered by both brothers.

2)And Skywalker also improved through TCW plus post CW. Rebels Maul states he can't take Vader/Skywalker alone. That's always been the case since Maul's revival tbh.

3)Smashing Opress's knee in and chopping his arm off is more than just holding them off. Maul used the Force blast to basically run away and admit defeat "come brother, this plan has failed." Not saying Kenobi > Maul, but he looked the best in that fight. Let's not also forget they had a 1 v 1 in the same episode with neither looking superior (but Kenobi does land that kick which puts Maul on his knees).

Getting beat up doesn't really affect your abilities in a saber duel that happens later on, and it shouldn't have affected Kenobi to that degree.

Good thing that ANH Vader is better then ROTS Anakin in every way.

No, he got pissed and blasted his *****-ass because Kenobi cut Opress' arm off and broke his leg, which wasn't impressive, considering Kenobi is a vastly superior combatant to Opress. Once Maul fought Sidious, he was able to push him, and you can even see it on Sidious' face.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Getting beat up doesn't really affect your abilities in a saber duel that happens later on, and it shouldn't have affected Kenobi to that degree.

Good thing that ANH Vader is better then ROTS Anakin in every way.

No, he got pissed and blasted his *****-ass because Kenobi cut Opress' arm off and broke his leg, which wasn't impressive, considering Kenobi is a vastly superior combatant to Opress. Once Maul fought Sidious, he was able to push him, and you can even see it on Sidious' face.

Thankgod someone sees Maul's accomplishment against Sidious.

I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.

No.

Mm. Maybe not that but still fall at Sidious

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies. ..Uh, Palpatine's an *******.

I don't think he's ever shown real recognition to anyone unless it was to further his own agenda, he mocked Maul the first time, he'll do it again.

Palpatine respects no one and only cares about himself and the dark side.

Well he recognised Plagueis as wise which is generous enough

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.
This post marks the end to the final numbered chapter of KMC. Everything beyond is the epilogue.

Yeah it was a bit ambitious. Awell

Originally posted by Jmanghan


1)Getting beat up doesn't really affect your abilities in a saber duel that happens later on, and it shouldn't have affected Kenobi to that degree.

2)Good thing that ANH Vader is better then ROTS Anakin in every way.

3)No, he got pissed and blasted his *****-ass because Kenobi cut Opress' arm off and broke his leg, which wasn't impressive, considering Kenobi is a vastly superior combatant to Opress. Once Maul fought Sidious, he was able to push him, and you can even see it on Sidious' face.


1) Struggling to get up from a concussion doesn't effect your combat ability? Really?
I will note however that Kenobi was winning that fight until he got distracted with aiding Ventress.

2) And by the looks of things Rebels Maul is also > TCW Maul. They both massively improved throughout TCW and afterwards as well. Vader/Skywalker always seemed to be ahead of Maul though (since his revival) tbh.

3) It is impressive because he wasn't fighting Opress 1 v 1, he was fighting Maul+Opress together. So he had to stomp Opress while holding Maul at bay. A force push isn't the end of the world unless it KO's the opponent and leaves him vulnerable. Kenobi was actually blasted off the arena, so would have been fine by the time Maul reached him (had Maul pursued him).
And again let's not forget the Maul vs Kenobi 1 v 1 in the same episode.
Don't see how the Sidious fight is relevant.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.


Nice fanfic, but they've done the whole Sidious sorts Maul out thing.

I don't think Palpatine will physically make an appearance in Rebels. He leaves the law enforcement to Vader now.

Good chance though Vader will kill Maul. I don't see Kenobi coming into it tbh. I think they have plans for a Kenobi spin off movie in that time period, so probably don't want to go there.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
..Uh, Palpatine's an *******.

I don't think he's ever shown real recognition to anyone unless it was to further his own agenda, he mocked Maul the first time, he'll do it again.

Palpatine respects no one and only cares about himself and the dark side. Palpatine is also a coward. He begged for his life when under the mercy of Windu. He's a weak galactic emperor IMO who only really benefited from taking power in the midst of a very weak era of Jedi. Yoda was a dumbass. Only Jedi with some damn sense in rots was Windu and Anakin the pissant betrayed him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Palpatine is also a coward. He begged for his life when under the mercy of Windu. He's a weak galactic emperor IMO who only really benefited from taking power in the midst of a very weak era of Jedi. Yoda was a dumbass. Only Jedi with some damn sense in rots was Windu and Anakin the pissant betrayed him.

You're actually dead right. I'm ****ing sick of how stupid Yoda was for such a 'wise' being. Bloody retarded

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
You're actually dead right. I'm ****ing sick of how stupid Yoda was for such a 'wise' being. Bloody retarded


Nah Windu and Mundi were the retards on the Council.

Well all council members but Yoda more so

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Well all council members but Yoda more so


At least Yoda keeps his mind open to other possibilities. Mundi and Windu were just wrong, and arrogantly wouldn't accept any other possibilities except the way they saw things. And this happened multiple times.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah Windu and Mundi were the retards on the Council. Bs. Windu had him dead to rights and outside of betrayal by the weak minded Anakin he was beaten. Yoda never beat him. He was an utter and colossal failure throughout both trilogies. Quit making excuses for Yoda.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I God damn hope Maul falls at Sidious' blade not Obi-Wan's. I always felt Maul was superior to Kenobi in every and you can make more of a story out of a Maul vs Sidious fight. They come head to head and Maul challenges him to a duel without the force, they battle for ages and Maul gets a few good hits in. Maul's desire to kill his master as well as prove to Sidious that he was worthy all along will make him fight even harder and stronger. Sheev impales him but tells Maul he was a truly great warrior before Maul falls to the ground and dies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bs. Windu had him dead to rights and outside of betrayal by the weak minded Anakin he was beaten. Yoda never beat him. He was an utter and colossal failure throughout both trilogies. Quit making excuses for Yoda.

How is it not a blunder to not consider "weak minded Anakin" when your back is turned to him?

^ Owned.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
How is it not a blunder to not consider "weak minded Anakin" when your back is turned to him? His back wasn't turned he was about to kill Palpatine when Anakin reacted. If he dropped his guard he was going to get force lightning'd. But since you want to talk about utter stupidity let's discuss Palpatine when Vader killed him in the midst of torturing his son. That's utter retardation when we factor in the stupidity in that scene.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Owned. His back wasn't turned to him. Try watching the scene next time before you hide behind another poster in another misguided attempt to indirectly challenge me. You'll always be that guy who pulled out of a battlezone you accepted against me the day of.

Live in shame.

Why people give Quan the time of the day, is beyond me.

Quan is useful for my goals.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Why people give Quan the time of the day, is beyond me. Everything I've said is true so wallow in your own stupidity and ignorance. The point of the site is to debate but if you don't feel adequate in your abilities then kindly keep your face down and don't try to engage someone willing to partake in this. See yourself out.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Quan is useful for my goals.

Sure thing, Fron Slixote.

Originally posted by Nephthys
This is Anakin at the end of RotS when he's freaking out and losing to Obi-Wan. Maul can take him.

^ that Vader was still driving back and tiring out Obi Wan despite Kenobi knowing all of his moved and specializing in defense, lel.

Originally posted by Petrus
Anakin has usually been an emotional nutcase. He's always been weak.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
^ that Vader was still driving back and tiring out Obi Wan despite Kenobi knowing all of his moved and specializing in defense, lel.

Yeah Vader also knew all of Kenobi's moves perfectly well. He might've been driving him back at some points but the duel was pretty even overall, come on it's pretty obvious Anakin was not nearly at his best during this fight. He probably wouldn't have defeated Dooku in this state of mind.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Everything I've said is true so wallow in your own stupidity and ignorance. The point of the site is to debate but if you don't feel adequate in your abilities then kindly keep your face down and don't try to engage someone willing to partake in this. See yourself out.
LMAO. You prolly should stop snorting so much coke --- it's obviously making you more retarded than you already were. I have no problem debating people, it's just the shit you spew isn't worth my, or anyone esle', time of the day.

Entertaining you in these threads is like trying to teach trigonometry to an ant; a truly fruitless endeavour.

Both knowing each other's moves likely prolongs the combat on balance. The fight wasn't even; Kenobi was retreating for almost the entire fight, and at the end is clearly more winded than Anakin is.

RotS Obi Wan > TPM Maul anyway.

The fight was even since no one landed a critical blow save for when Anakin's arrogance cost him the battle. Anakin is more offensive and Kenobi's style is more defensive.

Ah, if this is TPM then Anakin does win.

It's easier to survive for relatively long against a superior swordsman when you backtrack.

Originally posted by Petrus
Ah, if this is TPM then Anakin does win.

Well I assume it is given the OP date. TCW Maul still loses in a pure duel.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's easier to survive for relatively long against a superior swordsman when you backtrack. They were in close proximity quite often. Anakin had his chances. Kenobi didn't make a mistake but Anakin made a critical one.

Which is irrelevant to their overall ability.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Which is irrelevant to their overall ability. Iyo. What's relevant is Kenobi won and you can't change that. your excuse making won't change the facts.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Both knowing each other's moves likely prolongs the combat on balance.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Excuses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo. What's relevant is Kenobi won and you can't change that. your excuse making won't change the facts.

OK sweetie, and Obi Wan sliced Maul in half, and apparently circumstances don't matter, and that didn't take nearly as long, so obviously Anakin wins.

Ellimist is pretty swift in Owning Quanchi

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
LMAO. You prolly should stop snorting so much coke --- it's obviously making you more retarded than you already were. I have no problem debating people, it's just the shit you spew isn't worth my, or anyone esle', time of the day.

Entertaining you in these threads is like trying to teach trigonometry to an ant; a truly fruitless endeavour. Personal attacks just to try to hide your ineptitude. You don't even make a relevant point but would rather just flame. It's weak.

Nothing in your post addressed anything other than your failed attempts at stand up.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
OK sweetie, and Obi Wan sliced Maul in half, and apparently circumstances don't matter, and that didn't take nearly as long, so obviously Anakin wins. Maul defeated him via skill and was cut in half due to taunting his opponent. Anakin ebevr held any kind of advantage over Kenobi. Anakin lost despite Kenobi pleading with him not to be an idiot. He chose to be an idiot.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ellimist is pretty swift in Owning Quanchi Your life as other posters ***** is kind of amusing. I like how things have turned out.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Wasn't Anakin an emotional wreck, because he was facing Obi-Wan, mainly?

I'm not exactly sure how that would correlate to Maul, honestly

Anakin was crying and starving himself before Obi-Wan entered the picture. And Padme rejecting him would make him lose his shit regardless.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Kenobi knew his moves inside and out and still had to backtrack most of the fight. Despite his energy efficient form, he was breathing more heavily at the end than Anakin was. Maul loses.

A defensive duelist was backpedaling? No wai! Maul would obviously do that fight much differently than Obi-Wan did. He's more capable of trading blows with Anakin and could probably use Mustafar's environment better. Maul's stamina is also pretty ****ing good.

Maul's also much better at Don Moch'ing people, he could psyche Anakin out and cause him to crumble emotionally. Not to mention for once, it might not be Maul doing something incredibly stupid that totally ****s him over.

^ Whooa Neph praising Maul? What alternate reality have I entered?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Whooa Neph praising Maul? What alternate reality have I entered? He isn't as biased as you are, obviously.

One time, I said that Bane lost a fight.

It was unbearable.

Anakin destroys Maul.

Originally posted by playa1258
Anakin destroys Maul. Based on ?

Anakin kicks his ass pretty handily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul defeated him via skill and was cut in half due to taunting his opponent. Anakin ebevr held any kind of advantage over Kenobi. Anakin lost despite Kenobi pleading with him not to be an idiot. He chose to be an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo. What's relevant is Kenobi won and you can't change that. your excuse making won't change the facts.

^ like you did catch that I was satirizing you, right?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
^ like you did catch that I was satirizing you, right? Kenobi didn't get lucky that is the thing. Anakin made a tactical error and Kenobi's skill earned him a stalemate up to that point. Unlike against Maul Kenobi was never disarmed via skill. Yw.

Originally posted by NTJack0
Anakin kicks his ass pretty handily. Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi didn't get lucky that is the thing. Anakin made a tactical error and Kenobi's skill earned him a stalemate up to that point. Unlike against Maul Kenobi was never disarmed via skill. Yw.

So you can bring in circumstances, but when others do, you just dismiss them with a vague one liner and don't even bother to articulate any rebuttals?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
So you can bring in circumstances, but when others do, you just dismiss them with a vague one liner and don't even bother to articulate any rebuttals? I never ignored the circumstances what I did ignore was the excuses made for why such and such didn't happen.

Ok, I'm not going to bother.

Originally posted by The Ellimist


Ok, I'm not going to bother. I ignored the excuses just as if someone said the reason Dooku didn't beat Anakin then reasons. That's ignoring the facts and their fight. Dooku didn't lose because Anakin got lucky he was throughly decimated in a short light saber duel with Anakin. But any fanboy will argue based off other showings and try to overtake the facts with their opinion. That's the difference.