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No bfr/no drowning

Does Supes have it in him to beat Shaw

Remember Shaw can also use hv back at Supes

Since Superman can't stop Shaw's mind I say he loses.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
No bfr/no drowning

Does Supes have it in him to beat Shaw

Remember Shaw can also use hv back at Supes

Actually shaw has zero screen feats of him replicating peoples powers. So no he cant use HV back at Supes. And he only is powered by energy sources, none showed to be powered by physical attacks, so he has no way to power up.

Shaw dies.

T-vo

Its so laughable people see what they want, Rouge has been the only person shown to replicate powers, but because shaw can absorb powers some how that translates into he can use them back even though he has zero feats of him doing so.

Kinetic Energy is from physical attacks. It's how he absorbed the energy from those bullets and grenades and rpg's. And from Magneto slamming those beams into him.

Originally posted by KingD19
Kinetic Energy is from physical attacks. It's how he absorbed the energy from those bullets and grenades and rpg's. And from Magneto slamming those beams into him.

He was just absorbing nuclear energy, thats how he had the power to beat Mag back.

If we assume a no-limits fallacy to Shaw's powers then there is no way Superman wins. Maybe if he drops a building on him or something. Either way I think it will probably end as a stalemate.

You're ignoring the other part of my post though. Where he was shot hundreds of times by bullets and was visibly shown absorbing the kinetic energy imparted from the bullets hitting him.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
If we assume a no-limits fallacy to Shaw's powers then there is no way Superman wins. Maybe if he drops a building on him or something. Either way I think it will probably end as a stalemate.

You don't give MOS enough credit, he is a fast learner. He learned how to fight 3 warriors on his level within minutes while never fighting anyone before in his life..

If Shaw is at normal levels, why can't Supes use his super speed to wrap Shaw up in chains and drop him in a huge container, fill it with cement and let it harden. I don't see anything for Shaw to absorb, he's not getting hit.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You don't give MOS enough credit, he is a fast learner. He learned how to fight 3 warriors on his level within minutes while never fighting anyone before in his life..

Where was any of those attacks he received translated into Super Strength or Speed?

What about the grenade

He absorbed it then output an explosion
Same with Havok's blast

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
What about the grenade

He absorbed it then output an explosion
Same with Havok's blast

Where was the power replicated? He never replicated a single power.

He actually did. He absorbed Havok's energy blast, then produced an energy ball made of the same energy and shoved it in Darwin's mouth. It was rudimentary at best, but he did do it.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
If we assume a no-limits fallacy to Shaw's powers then there is no way Superman wins. Maybe if he drops a building on him or something. Either way I think it will probably end as a stalemate.

Originally posted by KingD19
He actually did. He absorbed Havok's energy blast, then produced an energy ball made of the same energy and shoved it in Darwin's mouth. It was rudimentary at best, but he did do it.

Please be real, that was not the same attack.

He never replicated out he just have it out the same way he got it

That's all I'm saying

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You don't give MOS enough credit, he is a fast learner. He learned how to fight 3 warriors on his level within minutes while never fighting anyone before in his life.. I thought about putting stalemate until Superman finds a way to beat him. But that would be pointless, no? Considering I have no idea how, and I don't think that would be the answer the OP wants lol.Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
If Shaw is at normal levels, why can't Supes use his super speed to wrap Shaw up in chains and drop him in a huge container, fill it with cement and let it harden. I don't see anything for Shaw to absorb, he's not getting hit. Maybe Superman having no idea how Shaw's powers work. If he knew about them, then yes Superman would own him.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
He never replicated out he just have it out the same way he got it

That's all I'm saying

Read your OP, apparently you think he can replicate powers, and now shoot heat vision out of his eyes.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
No bfr/no drowning

Does Supes have it in him to beat Shaw

Remember Shaw can also use hv back at Supes

........................................Shaw's only power is absorbing energy right? Supermans punches him with a coin

That only worked because Xavier held him with his mind, and Magneto did it slowly. Doing it at speed would just let him absorb the massive amounts of kinetic energy from the hit...although Supes could potentially overload him.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Read your OP, apparently you think he can replicate powers, and now shoot heat vision out of his eyes. yes if someone hits him with an energy attack ala Havok, he can out put that energy the same way he got it

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
yes if someone hits him with an energy attack ala Havok, he can out put that energy the same way he got it

No he can't and he never did. Quit lying.

When did Shaw absorb kinetic energy of a caliber similar to superman? I don't ever recalling him absorbing physical damage either.

Physical Damage = Kinetic Energy

And like I said, when Magneto slammed about half a dozen or more I-Beams into his body.

He's never absorbed anything as powerful as what Superman can dish out though.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's never absorbed anything as powerful as what Superman can dish out though.
It doesn't mean he can't absorb it.

I never said he couldn't. However since he wasn't shown absorbing anything nearly so powerful, this is a tricky subject. Saying he can't is reasonable since Supes is so far above anything he absorbed, it would make sense that it's possible for him to be overloaded. Saying he can is also plausible, but also a fallacy.

i.e He showed no limits to what he could absorb in the situations he was in, so he can absorb anything.

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Originally posted by maxivitopowe
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Nope, not the same ability, he took the energy he absorbed and put it in someones mouth, from OP you said he can use shoot HV from his eyes which he cant.

Agreed with Immortal.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope, not the same ability, he took the energy he absorbed and put it in someones mouth, from OP you said he can use shoot HV from his eyes which he cant.
That is exactly what I'm saying

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
That is exactly what I'm saying

No, your saying he copied his powers which he did not, and your saying Shaw can shoot HV out of his eyes.


Did he shoot his power the way it was shot at him? No, you lost. Give up. He can't shoot HV from his eyes.

Scientifically speaking he can absorb it because it's all about first law of thermodynamic , the only way to stop the first law is to interfere with the system to stop the functioning and that's not going to happen with adding more force ( or kinetic energy for that matter) but only with other forms of energy !! And the only thing we did saw was Xavier doing it and it stopped him.

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
Scientifically speaking he can absorb it because it's all about first law of thermodynamic , the only way to stop the first law is to interfere with the system to stop the functioning and that's not going to happen with adding more force ( or kinetic energy for that matter) but only with other forms of energy !! And the only thing we did saw was Xavier doing it and it stopped him.

From OP's retarded argument, he can shoot HV out his eyes and probably fly too. So they end up flying and fighting like him and Zod and they end up in space and he dies cause he can't breath. Shaw dies.

Screen Feats from MOS outclass Shaw in any way shape or form.

Ok he might not have "exact" heat vision but the best way of describing it us that he has to choices of attack

Either using it to amp himself or using it in the way that the energy was transferred to him

I can wrap this whole thread in one sentence. You have no idea what your talking about and base your OP off in accurate info.

Ok forget I said anything about the HV then

Superman learns real quick how his powers work and drains him and pushes a coin/finger through his head or drops a train on him or flys him into space or a million other scenarios.

Your auguring a guy with basically zero screen feats of superhuman strength or speed or flight to suggest he can take out Superman.

And how will drain him?
No bfr
And dropping a train on him wouldn't be to good of an idea dint you think?

Shaw has no god durability feats, he gets one shoted.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
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Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Shaw has no god durability feats, he gets one shoted.
Watch the goddamned video before you say anything that retarded again

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Watch the goddamned video before you say anything that retarded again

You got a mouth on you boy. You lost Shaw dies.

Shaw stands there mocking Superman while Superman's futilely wails on him; after Shaw's absorbed enough energy he grabs Superman and tears him in half. /thread

(Fight could take hours, maybe days)

Originally posted by Robtard
Shaw stands there mocking Superman while Superman's futilely wails on him; after Shaw's absorbed enough energy he grabs Superman and tears him in half. /thread

(Fight could take hours, maybe days)

Never shown to have super human strength off any amp. Sorry

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Never shown to have super human strength off any amp. Sorry

Except where he did.

Shaw was casually pushing away the iron beams Magneto was trying to crush him with. Considering the weight of those beams and the extreme amount of force Magneto can exert with his magnetism, it's easily to conclude that super-strength is a side-effect of Shaw absorbing energy.

Come at me again; I will crush you

He threw a guy

He was gently pushing against an I-beam that Eric was fighting against him

Originally posted by Robtard
Except where he did.

Shaw was casually pushing away the iron beams Magneto was trying to crush him with. Considering the weight of those beams and the extreme amount of force Magneto can exert with his magnetism, it's easily to conclude that super-strength is a side-effect of Shaw absorbing energy.

Come at me again; I will crush you

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Watch the goddamned video before you say anything that retarded again I hate it when a 30 year old man starts name calling like a 5 year old.

Originally posted by Robtard
Except where he did.

Shaw was casually pushing away the iron beams Magneto was trying to crush him with. Considering the weight of those beams and the extreme amount of force Magneto can exert with his magnetism, it's easily to conclude that super-strength is a side-effect of Shaw absorbing energy.

Come at me again; I will crush you

He was amped from soaking in the nuclear energy. His strength and durability is nothing in comparison to Superman.

Even if Shaw could absorb anything MOS throws at him, couldn't MOS just bfr him any number of ways. Drown him, fly him to and let him float around in space? He still has got to breathe.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Even if Shaw could absorb anything MOS throws at him, couldn't MOS just bfr him any number of ways. Drown him, fly him to and let him float around in space? He still has got to breathe.

OP keeps changing his original OP from one thing to the next, first he could copy superman's powers, now apparently he cant be taken into a river or into space.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shaw stands there mocking Superman while Superman's futilely wails on him; after Shaw's absorbed enough energy he grabs Superman and tears him in half. /thread

(Fight could take hours, maybe days)

That could happen. You'd think though after Supes realizes he's getting more powerful he'd try and resort to bfr to orbit. Supes would also get an amp the closer he gets to the sun.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
OP keeps changing his original OP from one thing to the next, first he could copy superman's powers, now apparently he cant be taken into a river or into space.

So no bfr? or use of the environment? Because, its an arguable bfr if he flies him to space, lets him float, but doesn't leave the general area Shaw would just die on his own while Supes watches....Damn thats some sadistic shit. But yeah, it then becomes Supes using the environment to win.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
He threw a guy

He was gently pushing against an I-beam that Eric was fighting against him

And that compares to the world engine feat how that superman pushed against?

Originally posted by meep-meep
So no bfr? or use of the environment?

Coarse not, its another sandman argument changing like the sands of the seven seas.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Coarse not, its another sandman argument changing like the sands of the seven seas.

I edited my response. And added that its arguable that if he flies him to space it would considered a bfr or simply using environmental resources.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I edited my response. And added that its arguable that if he flies him to space it would considered a bfr or simply using environmental resources.

Ah I see what you mean, thats not bfr if they happen to end up in space or a lake, simply using environmental resources, good call.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He was amped from soaking in the nuclear energy.

His strength and durability is nothing in comparison to Superman.

Yes.

Correct and not correct. Shaw's powers would effectively negate Superman's strength. Shaw's durability is insanely high*, since he absorbs any energy that would harm him. So he just has to fight Superman and absorb the energy of Superman's attacks until he's powerful enough to rip Superman a second a-hole.

*Shaw was going to explode himself like a nuke, as per his Plan B.

Originally posted by meep-meep
That could happen. You'd think though after Supes realizes he's getting more powerful he'd try and resort to bfr to orbit. Supes would also get an amp the closer he gets to the sun.

Reasonable that Superman would at one point try and grapple Shaw and lift him, but he couldn't, all the force Superman exerts into lifting Shaw would be absorbed.

While Shaw could man-handle Superman since he'd being negating* any amount of force Superman tried to counter with.

*We see a small example of this when Darwin tries to strike Shaw, the force-cancellation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes.

Correct. So he just has to fight Superman and absorb the energy of Superman's attacks until he's powerful enough to rip Superman a second a-hole.

Nope because they he is only as powerful as superman who was never shown to have a whole ripped in him even by the world engine or his counterparts or by his own kyrptonian weapons. His amp allows him to channel back the power he receives, which is why he could push back Mags attacks because he amped on the reactor for a long time.

Originally posted by Robtard
Reasonable that Superman would at one point try and grapple Shaw and lift him, but he couldn't, all the force Superman exerts into lifting Shaw would be absorbed.

While Shaw could man-handle Superman since he'd being negativing* any amount of force Superman tried to counter with.

*We see a small example of this when Darwin tries to strike Shaw, the force-cancellation.

No it could not, he cannot amp himself on being lifted or held. Its from incoming damage only . He weights 160lbs? How is Superman going to exert himself from lifting a 160-200lbs man?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No it could not, he cannot amp himself on being lifted or held. Its from incoming damage only . He weights 160lbs? How is Superman going to exert himself from lifting a 160-200lbs man?

You seem to not understand what his powers do. They absorb all kinds of energy, kinetic, heat, nuclear etc.

Because any amount of force Superman exerts to lift Shaw, would be absorbed and effectively cancelled.

Originally posted by Robtard
You seem to not understand what his powers do. They absorb all kinds of energy, kinetic, heat, nuclear etc.

Because any amount of force Superman exerts to lift Shaw, would be absorbed and effectively cancelled.

Negative his gravity defying ability negates that. Any amount of weight or gravity superman can over come. Like the world engine...

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
I hate it when a 30 year old man starts name calling like a 5 year old.

I'm 17 f*cker

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He was amped from soaking in the nuclear energy. His strength and durability is nothing in comparison to Superman.





X Men movie wiki

Kinetic energy absortion

kinetic energy manip

Originally posted by meep-meep
Even if Shaw could absorb anything MOS throws at him, couldn't MOS just bfr him any number of ways. Drown him, fly him to and let him float around in space? He still has got to breathe.

No bfr or drowning

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
OP keeps changing his original OP from one thing to the next, first he could copy superman's powers, now apparently he cant be taken into a river or into space.

The only thing I changed was the HV reminder

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
No bfr/no drowning

Does Supes have it in him to beat Shaw

Remember Shaw can also use hv back at Supes

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
I'm 17 f*cker

Someone's still mad

Superman screen feats are greater then Shaw feats.

I'm worried that your stupidity is catching

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Negative his gravity defying ability negates that. Any amount of weight or gravity superman can over come. Like the world engine...

"Gravity defying ability"

Listen, to lift Shaw requires Superman to exert energy in the form of a lift, that is absorbed by Shaw.

Anyhow, what is your point here anyways? Superman's going to lift Shaw and then what? Did you even think this through?

Originally posted by Robtard
"Gravity defying ability"

Listen, to lift Shaw requires Superman to exert energy in the form of a lift, that is absorbed by Shaw.

Anyhow, what is your point here anyways? Superman's going to lift Shaw and then what? Did you even think this through?

Did superman defy gravity? Yes. To lift shaw is no exert in power, and he's not receiving damage.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
I'm worried that your stupidity is catching

How bout you stop calling names after you were warned to stop? What stupid is the thread. Superman against Shaw, lmao..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Did superman defy gravity? Yes. To lift shaw is no exert in power, and he's not receiving damage.

Does a plane "defy gravity"? Yes. It takes energy.

You also avoided this:

Anyhow, what is your point here anyways. Superman's going to lift Shaw and then what? Did you even think this through?

Originally posted by Robtard
Does a plane "defy gravity"? Yes. It takes energy.

So does a moving ship or submarine. Was he pulling energy off those besides when he was pulling energy off the core?

Nothing Shaw can do can hurt Man of Steel. He was only able to restrain magneto based off his amp insane amp. He loses.

I swear you people are gonna give me an aneurism

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So does a moving ship or submarine. Was he pulling energy off those besides when he was pulling energy off the core?

Nothing Shaw can do can hurt Man of Steel. He was only able to restrain magneto based off his amp insane amp. He loses.



Why would Shaw want to stop the sub he was in? That would be counterproductive to his plans.

Nothing Superman can do can hurt Shaw. Superman can only make Shaw more powerful. Superman loses.

What was the point of your "MoS is going to lift Shaw!" rant anyways? You've dodge that 3 times now.

Originally posted by Robtard
Reasonable that Superman would at one point try and grapple Shaw and lift him, but he couldn't, all the force Superman exerts into lifting Shaw would be absorbed.

While Shaw could man-handle Superman since he'd being negating* any amount of force Superman tried to counter with.

*We see a small example of this when Darwin tries to strike Shaw, the force-cancellation.

I should just go ahead watch first class again. But, I see what you are saying. I do seem to recall K Bake responding to force applied against him quickly and with equal force. mmm

Originally posted by meep-meep
I should just go ahead watch first class again. But, I see what you are saying. I do seem to recall K Bake responding to force applied against him quickly and with equal force. mmm

Originally posted by Robtard
Why would Shaw want to stop the sub he was in? That would be counterproductive to his plans.

Nothing Superman can do can hurt Shaw. Superman can only make Shaw more powerful. Superman loses.

What was the point of your "MoS is going to lift Shaw!" rant anyways? You've dodge that 3 times now.

Dodged what, he lifts him and throws him away like a rag doll.

You said to lift him takes energy and he can draw off that energy even when he has received no damage. Rob I refuse to believe your standing for shaw other then for devil's advocate here, considering your a pretty reasonable guy.

Max on the other hand..

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
I'm worried that your stupidity is catching

Im worried you didn't watch man of steel.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Dodged what, he lifts him and throws him away like a rag doll.

You said to lift him takes energy and he can draw off that energy even when he has received no damage. Rob I refuse to believe your standing for shaw other then for devil's advocate here, considering your a pretty reasonable guy.

Max on the other hand..

So win via BFR is what you're saying. Sorry, not allowed here (though that likely wouldn't work on Shaw)

Watch the film again; understand Shaw's powers. He's pretty much the anti to the brick Superman is.

Don't know Max very well, he happens to be correct here though.

Originally posted by Robtard
So win via BFR is what you're saying. Sorry, not allowed here (though that likely wouldn't work on Shaw)

Watch the film again; understand Shaw's powers. He's pretty much the anti to the brick Superman is.

Don't know Max very well, he happens to be correct here though.

Shaw was amped from the core. None of his abilities of absorbing before that showed any super human strength or the ability to reproduce them.

He cannot even replicate others powers and receives slight amp from mutants powers. He knew he had to amp from the core to contend with Magneto and the X Men.

He has zero brawling feats, he has zero super human feats on Superman's level.

Although IMO Shaw could absorb anything Superman throws at him (short of drowning or oxygen deprivation in space, etc), I don't see the whole "Superman can't lift him" thing happening. It doesn't sound like it would ever be depicted in a movie. If he could do that, couldn't he float in the air at will also? Raising yourself into the air raises your "gravitational potential energy state" and he could release the potential energy and then just levitate there also couldn't he? He would be kinda stuck though I would think. Is my thinking correct? I don't think this would happen.
Oh, could Shaw survive the vacuum of space on his physiology? Won't his blood boil just like everybody else's?

Originally posted by K-Dog
Although IMO Shaw could absorb anything Superman throws at him (short of drowning or oxygen deprivation in space, etc), I don't see the whole "Superman can't lift him" thing happening. It doesn't sound like it would ever be depicted in a movie. If he could do that, couldn't he float in the air at will also? Raising yourself into the air raises your "gravitational potential energy state" and he could release the potential energy and then just levitate there also couldn't he? He would be kinda stuck though I would think. Is my thinking correct? I don't think this would happen.
Oh, could Shaw survive the vacuum of space on his physiology? Won't his blood boil just like everybody else's?

If he can lift himself through the world engines gravity beam, he can lift shaw.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
If he can lift himself through the world engines gravity beam, he can lift shaw. Did the World Engine beam have some sort of energy absorption/negating ability? No. It was weakening Superman, but that isn't the same thing as Shaw's powers

You logic is terrible and flat out ignores Shaw's power-set, simply because you want him to lose.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did the World Engine beam have some sort of energy absorption ability? No.

You logic is terrible and flat out ignores Shaw's power-set, simply because you want him to lose.

Show me screen feats of anything other then him being amped off a nuclear core to suggest he is on the level of superman.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Show me screen feats of anything other then him being amped off a nuclear core to suggest he is on the level of superman.

He's isn't as powerful as Superman normally.

Considering Shaw's powers though, Superman can't hurt him and will only make him stronger with each attack. What can't you grasp here?

Something tells me that MOS HAS a way to win. I just cant quite figure it out yet. I guess it all comes down to if he could figure out this undefined path to victory before Shaw absorbs too much energy.

I'm also not too sure about Supes not being able to fly him away but I kind of got to concede that point, considering I really have no examples to refute that my boy K Bake cant be lifted.

Okay time to watch First Class. Well played Rob.

I could say your logic is terrible based off screen feats and ignores superman's power set, simple because you want him to lose.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's isn't as powerful as Superman normally.

Considering Shaw's powers though, Superman can't hurt him and will only make him stronger with each attack. What can't you grasp here?

No his powers are drained as soon as he attacked, he was amped far above normal limits.

Why do you think he ran from Magento on the ship, he knew he was screwed. He knew in order to beat him he had to amp with nuclear energy.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I could say your logic is terrible based off screen feats and ignores superman's power set, simple because you want him to lose.

Considering you haven't been able to counter a single point I've made, I disagree. What of Superman's power-set have I ignored?

Let me try this way: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Originally posted by meep-meep
Something tells me that MOS HAS a way to win. I just cant quite figure it out yet. I guess it all comes down to if he could figure out this undefined path to victory before Shaw absorbs too much energy.

I'm also not too sure about Supes not being able to fly him away but I kind of got to concede that point, considering I really have no examples to refute that my boy K Bake cant be lifted.

Okay time to watch First Class. Well played Rob.



If you find something logical, so be it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you haven't been able to counter a single point I've made, I disagree. What of Superman's power-set have I ignored?

Let me try this way: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

He ran from Magento on the ship because he knew he was doomed.. Please be real with yourself.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He ran from Magento on the ship because he knew he was doomed.. Please be real with yourself.

He ran cos the ship was sinking. Please stop downplaying Shaw.

You also dodged the question: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Originally posted by Robtard
He ran cos the ship was sinking.

You also dodged the question: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Nope was running way before that when he saw what was headed his way. He's smart enough to know when to run and good enough at prep to know when he needs to amp to beat Magento.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope was running way before that when he saw what was headed his way. He's smart enough to know when to run and good enough at prep to know when he needs to amp to beat Magento.

Anyhow:

How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Originally posted by Robtard
He ran cos the ship was sinking. Please stop downplaying Shaw.

You also dodged the question: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

He defeats him by flying into him and destroying him.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He defeats him by flying into him and destroying him.

So you're going to ignore that Shaw's powers would allow him to absorb the kinetic energy of that attack.

That's not debating; that's more akin to trolling. You're done, go take a nap.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you're going to ignore that Shaw's powers would allow him to absorb the kinetic energy of that attack.

That's not debating; that's more akin to trolling. You're done, go take a nap.

Nope he was never shown to be intangible, just absorbing, and he gets destroyed here as he cant stop or absorb superman. Please don't say he absorbs superman.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope he was never shown to be intangible, just absorbing, and he gets destroyed here as he cant stop or absorb superman. Please don't say he absorbs superman.

"Intangible" "absorbs Superman" WTF are you talking about. You're trolling, go take a nap.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Intangible" "absorbs Superman" WTF are you talking about. You're trolling, go take a nap.

The only way he could not be destroyed by Superman flying into him a super speed would be to be intangible correct? Since he cannot be intangible, He would have to try to absorb that attack of the dude flying at him at full power. Since he cannot absorb Superman, he would be broken and cut in half from that attack,

The attacks Magneto was unleashing on him the first battle were no were near that however he ran like crazy to leave. Upon his next encounter with Mag he prepped with nuclear energy.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The only way he could not be destroyed by Superman flying into him a super speed would be to be intangible correct? Since he cannot be intangible, He would have to try to absorb that attack of the dude flying at him at full power. Since he cannot absorb Superman, he would be broken and cut in half from that attack,

The attacks Magneto was unleashing on him the first battle were no were near that however he ran like crazy to leave. Upon his next encounter with Mag he prepped with nuclear energy.

You still don't understand Shaw's powers. Shaw would absorb the kinetic energy of Superman flying into him and would not be harmed.

Originally posted by Robtard
You still don't understand Shaw's powers. Shaw would absorb the kinetic energy of Superman flying into him and would not be harmed.

Please a penny went through his head. Your saying Superman at full speed would not hurt him. Cmon man. I know what his powers are, and without prepping with nuclear energy he ran like hell from Magneto. Upon realizing he cant beat him, he had his sub to prep for their next battle to even the scales.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Please a penny went through his head. Your saying Superman at full speed would not hurt him. Cmon man. I know what his powers are, and without prepping with nuclear energy he ran like hell from Magneto. Upon realizing he cant beat him, he had his sub to prep for their next battle to even the scales.

I'm guessing/hoping you're just trolling, but I'll play along in case you just didn't understand that scene.

The penny went through because Xavier was in control of Shaw and managed to for the lack of a better word 'turn off' Shaw's powers. That won't happen here. Superman can't turn off Shaw's powers.

Glad that is cleared up.

Is it just me or is he starting to sound like Supra a bit?

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm guessing/hoping you're just trolling, but I'll play along in case you just didn't understand that scene.

The penny went through because Xavier was in control of Shaw and managed to for the lack of a better word 'turn off' Shaw's powers. Glad that is cleared up.

That won't happen here. Superman can not turn off Shaw's powers.

He fly's through him at Super Speed, the guy gets disintegrated. He was never shown to amp above anything superman can handle. He ran from chains thrown at him. Superman tosses chains on him or throws a truck at him. He dies. No matter how you want to spin it, Shaw dies. He preped and amped to beat Magento as their first encounter he utterly was out gunned.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Is it just me or is he starting to sound like Supra a bit?

Oh great, first Im rouge Jedi earlier today, now I'm Supra, yesterday it was some dude name Alpha Centuri. You are literally clueless.

Can someone be reported for being deliberately obtuse?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Can someone be reported for being deliberately obtuse?

Go report and cry to mom.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He fly's through him at Super Speed, the guy gets disintegrated. He was never shown to amp above anything superman can handle. He ran from chains thrown at him. Superman tosses chains on him or throws a truck at him. He dies. No matter how you want to spin it, Shaw dies. He preped and amped to beat Magento as their first encounter he utterly was out gunned.

Shaw's potential was at least nuclear-bomb levels, as per his Plan B. I've told you this before.

No matter how you try to ignore or downplay Shaw's powers, they're exactly what is needed to counter bricks like Superman, the Hulk, The Thing etc.

Anyhow, you're done, all your arguments have been countered. Maybe go watch both flicks and see if there's anything there.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shaw's potential was at least nuclear-bomb levels, as per his Plan B. I've told you this before.

No matter how you try to ignore or downplay Shaw's powers, they're exactly what is needed to counter bricks like Superman, the Hulk, The Thing etc.

Anyhow, you're done, all your arguments have been countered. Maybe go watch both flicks and see if there's anything there.

He ran from Magento and was deathly afraid of him when he didn't have his Amp or his Telepath.

Superman outclasses and throws a car, train, house, chains on him and he runs away the same way.

He had nuclear energy amp. Which you ignore.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm guessing/hoping you're just trolling, but I'll play along in case you just didn't understand that scene.

The penny went through because Xavier was in control of Shaw and managed to for the lack of a better word 'turn off' Shaw's powers. That won't happen here. Superman can't turn off Shaw's powers.

Glad that is cleared up.
Where was it shown or implied that Xavier "turned off" Shaw's powers? As it is, Superman snaps his neck. Slowly of course.

Wait doesn't Supes still have heat vision? Or how would he deal with a grappling move and being flown into space or something?

Not sure if Shaw's powers of absorbing kinectic energy would work if he isn't directly being hit right?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Wait doesn't Supes still have heat vision? Or how would he deal with a grappling move and being flown into space or something?

Not sure if Shaw's powers of absorbing kinectic energy would work if he isn't directly being hit right?

OP said no bfr, and the opposing argument is also stating that he can absorb energy without being directly hit, or that he can not be picked up at all and basically its he is immovable now. The stupidity grows by the second.

I can understand Shaw being able to absorb energy w/o directy being hit considering he was going to do that with the nuke but I though the whole reason the coin trick worked because there wasn't sufficient energy for Shaw to absorb thanks to Charles holding Shaw in place.

Wouldn't Superman be able to do the same thing as long as he doesn't release that much energy in his grapple?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I can understand Shaw being able to absorb energy w/o directy being hit considering he was going to do that with the nuke but I though the whole reason the coin trick worked because there wasn't sufficient energy for Shaw to absorb thanks to Charles holding Shaw in place.

Wouldn't Superman be able to do the same thing as long as he doesn't release that much energy in his grapple?
Or it could mean that Shaw has to consciously activate his powers to absorb the energy. The notion that Xavier somehow "switched off" his powers is laughably ridiculous, not to mention idiotic.

Superman snaps his neck at superspeed before he could activate his powers.

w00tw00t

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I can understand Shaw being able to absorb energy w/o directy being hit considering he was going to do that with the nuke but I though the whole reason the coin trick worked because there wasn't sufficient energy for Shaw to absorb thanks to Charles holding Shaw in place.

Wouldn't Superman be able to do the same thing as long as he doesn't release that much energy in his grapple?

Well he was exposed directly to the core so it was letting off untold amounts of radiation into his body, it was showing to wear on him his skin was getting pretty ugly like what would happen to a person exposed to the core like that, however his absorption he was able to overcome it but that appears to be the top end of his absorption power as it weighed on him quiet a bit.

I think there is a difference between absorbing radiation and say being picked up and thrown. He also didn't appear to like having large objects thrown at him and was deathly afraid of that until he amped/prep for magneto.

So from the Superman side, tossing large objects at him or breaking his next slowly, or pushing his finger through his head slowly would do the trick. His final scene of strength amped also revolved his greatest weakness that slow moving objects through his body can hurt him.

The second time around watching it I caught a lot more of the emotional aspect of that film. Good movie. I remember being a sort of cynical prick the first time I watched it. Anyway, yeah. Shaw not once left his feet, not under his own power, in that whole movie. Well, once but he was already dead. In fact, it seemed like he made it a point to be very subtle and gentle with his movements and physical contact at all times to not illicit unwarranted energy harnessing (just my take). He completely tanked everything, and was so nice about it, besides the timestop.

I shake my fist at you Robtard.

I SHAKE IT!!!!

One thing though.....and its something. When Mags was able to surface and levitate the sub that proved Shaw can be moved, albeit not directly. Even so, if MOS were to be able to figure out how to create some sort of structure to contain Shaw. it'd likely be too late.

In short, MOS could win but he'd have to bfr. And that's not in the stips.

(Where can I find the angry fist shaking emoticon? Anyone.)

Originally posted by meep-meep
The second time around watching it I caught a lot more of the emotional aspect of that film. Good movie. I remember being a sort of cynical prick the first time I watched it. Anyway, yeah. Shaw not once left his feet, not under his own power, in that whole movie. Well, once but he was already dead. In fact, it seemed like he made it a point to be very subtle and gentle with his movements and physical contact at all times to not illicit unwarranted energy harnessing (just my take). He completely tanked everything, and was so nice about it, besides the timestop.

I shake my fist at you Robtard.

I SHAKE IT!!!!

One thing though.....and its something. When Mags was able to surface and levitate the sub that proved Shaw can be moved, albeit not directly. Even so, if MOS were to be able to figure out how to create some sort of structure to contain Shaw. it'd likely be too late.

In short, MOS could win but he'd have to bfr. And that's not in the stips.

(Where can I find the angry fist shaking emoticon? Anyone.)
shakefist

Originally posted by meep-meep
The second time around watching it I caught a lot more of the emotional aspect of that film. Good movie. I remember being a sort of cynical prick the first time I watched it. Anyway, yeah. Shaw not once left his feet, not under his own power, in that whole movie. Well, once but he was already dead. In fact, it seemed like he made it a point to be very subtle and gentle with his movements and physical contact at all times to not illicit unwarranted energy harnessing (just my take). He completely tanked everything, and was so nice about it, besides the timestop.

I shake my fist at you Robtard.

I SHAKE IT!!!!

One thing though.....and its something. When Mags was able to surface and levitate the sub that proved Shaw can be moved, albeit not directly. Even so, if MOS were to be able to figure out how to create some sort of structure to contain Shaw. it'd likely be too late.

In short, MOS could win but he'd have to bfr. And that's not in the stips.

(Where can I find the angry fist shaking emoticon? Anyone.)

He ran from Magneto when he was not amped and about to get plowed by big objects. Superman can reproduce that feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
shakefist

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He ran from Magneto when he was not amped and about to get plowed by big objects. Superman can reproduce that feat.

Supes could go above and beyond that feat. However, It's true That the Baconater had a plan for humans to destroy each other in a nuclear war. if he wouldnt have fled his plan likely wouldnt have come to fruition.

That said, you bring up an interesting point. If the sub he was on was sunk, I'm inclined to believe he would have drown. And MOS could likely fly it into orbit and leave it there. But thats bfr and K Dawg would already be in an enclosed container. It would be a gift wrapped present for Kent.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where was it shown or implied that Xavier "turned off" Shaw's powers? As it is, Superman snaps his neck. Slowly of course.

Deduced from the film, if you don't like "turned off" (as I said), replace it with "affected somehow", was silly, but it is what it is.

Slow moving objects still have kinetic energy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or it could mean that Shaw has to consciously activate his powers to absorb the energy. The notion that Xavier somehow "switched off" his powers is laughably ridiculous, not to mention idiotic.

Superman snaps his neck at superspeed before he could activate his powers.

w00tw00t


If Shaw has to "consciously" keep his powers active, it stands to reason that Xavier could affect the ability, cos he is after all the mind-mutant, you dum-dum troll.

Originally posted by Robtard
Deduced from the film, if you don't like "turned off" (as I said), replace it with "affected somehow", was silly, but it is what it is.

Slow moving objects still have kinetic energy.

He ran from Magento without his Amp, plain and simple.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He ran from Magento without his Amp, plain and simple.

That's the 3rd or 4th time you posted that to a post of mine that had nothing to do with your silliness.

Maybe watch the film again like Meep-Meep, then you'll understand Shaw's powers.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's the 3rd or 4th time you posted that to a post of mine that had nothing to do with your silliness.

Maybe watch the film again like Meep-Meep, then you'll understand Shaw's powers.

You still don't grasp he ran from a higher power that he was not amped to handle.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You still don't grasp he ran from a higher power that he was not amped to handle.

He ran cos of plot and the boat was sinking. He had shit to do and despite his epic powers, he needs to seemingly breath.

All these pages and you still can come with a way for Superman to defeat Shaw.

Originally posted by Robtard
He ran cos of plot and the boat was sinking. He had shit to do and despite his epic powers, he needs to seemingly breath.

All these pages and you still can come with a way for Superman to defeat Shaw.

I told you the throws big objects at him.

You have come up with no way for him to win,

He is not amped, he has no power.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I told you the throws big objects at him.

You have come up with no way for him to win,

He is not amped, he has no power.

Thrown objects would produce what? Kinetic energy, what Shaw soaks up.

Good job powering up Shaw

Originally posted by Robtard
Thrown objects would produce what? Kinetic energy, what Shaw soaks up.

Good job powering up Shaw

It disperses soon as he uses it.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It disperses soon as he uses it.

So?

Originally posted by Robtard
So?

Which none of it can hurt Superman.

Shaws greatest feat is amped.

He cannot power over his current level, he can only take what he receives and dish it back a a few shown ways.

None of which hurt Superman.

If he absorbs enough energy, he might. His max on film was going to be the equivalent of a nuclear bomb.

But if it is indeed a stalemate of powers, in the end Superman loses due to Shaw having an extended life-span as a side-effect of his powers. Condolences, your hero dies of old age.

Originally posted by Robtard
If he absorbs enough energy, he might.

But if it is indeed a stalemate of powers, in the end Superman loses due to Shaw having an extended life-span as a side-effect of his powers.

Superman is immortal he never dies.

Zod and the other Kryptonians died.

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod and the other Kryptonians died.

Superman didn't. He does not age. Only Zod died, the rest went back into the phantom zone.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Superman didn't. He does not age.

He's not any different physiologically than they are.

Yeah, he does age. Or he'd still be a baby.

Being killed and dying from old age are different things.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's not any different physiologically than they are.

Shaw can't kill superman, get over it. Rob you pick the weakest people to fight for with crap screen feats...why? To increase post count, I don't get it.

And what suggest that the Kryptonians don't age? Considering we see them from infants to old wrinkled ****s in the film.

Originally posted by Robtard
And what suggest that the Kryptonians don't age? Considering we see them from infants to old wrinkled ****s in the film.

Yes Rob they fight forever...lmao cmon, Superman sticks his hand in his brain and thus pulls it out.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Shaw can't kill superman, get over it.

Rob you pick the weakest people to fight for with crap screen feats...why?

To increase post count, I don't get it.

More assertions without proof.

Shaw is weak now? Do tell me how a guy who took on Magneto and was about to explode himself as a nuclear bomb us weak?

You have nothing, just stop posting and go to sleep.

Originally posted by Robtard
More assertions without proof.

Shaw is weak now? Do tell me how a guy who took on Magneto and was about to explode himself as a nuclear bomb us weak?

You have nothing, just stop posting and go to sleep.

You take a amped feat and broadcast it while ignoring him running away from Magneto while he not amped. It was not a nuclear bomb. Please get real. It was a uranium rods radiation. Big difference.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes Rob they fight forever...lmao cmon, Superman sticks his hand in his brain and thus pulls it out.

You're making Superman commit suicide? Odd. But okay, Superman kills himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're making Superman commit suicide? Odd. But okay, Superman kills himself.

Now you get childish, he sticks his hand inside shaws brain..

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You take a amped feat and broadcast it while ignoring him running away from Magneto while he not amped. It was not a nuclear bomb. Please get real. It was a uranium rods radiation. Big difference.

You take a plot and ignore Shaw's powerset.

Was he amped when he held a live grenade in his hand and let it go off? No. Cos he doesn't need to be amped for his powers of energy absorption to work. Stop being silly.

Watch the film again.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Now you get childish, he sticks his hand inside shaws brain..

"Superman sticks his hand in his brain and thus pulls it out" and I'm acting childish?

That like would require kinetic energy.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Superman sticks his hand in his brain and thus pulls it out" and I'm acting childish?

That like would require kinetic energy.

Ur right, he has no brain to pull out, another sand man arugment.