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Winter Soldier takes on Marv and Kevin (Sin City) in a pure melee battle to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...

Who wins?

Ws easily

WS but Marv will make him work for it.

I can't see Marv being taken down by the WS tbh, too durable.

He's like the Deadpool of normal humans, coupled with Superhuman strength.

Originally posted by golem370
WS but Marv will make him work for it.

Dont forget about Kevin...

He's superhumanly fast, has claws, is a skilled fighter, and has a history of going for his opponents eyes...

Y'all are crazy... Kevin dropped Marv like bad habit.
WTF is he doing to WS?

Kevin is fast agile and seems like he didn't feel pain but Marv is smart durable and strong as hell. Marv crashing threw the door was more impressive then when WS did to his apartment.

Originally posted by golem370
Kevin is fast agile and seems like he didn't feel pain but Marv is smart durable and strong as hell. Marv crashing threw the door was more impressive then when WS did to his apartment.
WS is definitely stronger than Marv let's not forget the better fighter... Kevin is a non factor

He possibly blind WS for a moment. How strong do you have to rip the foundation out from under a house he is more then likely peak to low superhuman strength I mean he held a guy by the head while at driving speed and dragging it across the street. One more thing he seem unfazed by bullets even thought they left holes yet Cap was hurt worse when shot by Bucky.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Y'all are crazy... Kevin dropped Marv like bad habit.
WTF is he doing to WS? Marv dropped Kevin with one ****ing punch, dude.

The hell are you on about.

I think M and K will make him work for it, but in the end I have to support WS taking the win here.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Marv dropped Kevin with one ****ing punch, dude.

The hell are you on about.

Marv and Kevin defeated the other once; so they are 1-1 vs each other...

I do have to add that when Marv beat Kevin, Marv had prep...

Kevin k.o'ed Marv with a sledgehammer I believe.

Originally posted by golem370
Kevin k.o'ed Marv with a sledgehammer I believe.
After kicking his ass yeah...

He got the drop on him and blinded him

Originally posted by golem370
He got the drop on him and blinded him

He didnt blind him immediately though; he beat on Marv a bit before scratching his eyes out...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Dont forget about Kevin...

He's superhumanly fast, has claws, is a skilled fighter, and has a history of going for his opponents eyes... WS will catch him and break his neck within seconds.

Originally posted by Mindset
WS will catch him and break his neck within seconds.

Based on?

Kevin is fast enough to dodge a flurry of close range gun fire with ease...

And yes, Marv was able to tag him, but there is context to that; Marv prepped for Kevin with the handcuffs (so that Kevin couldnt dodge once caught) furthermore, Marv allowed Kevin to get close him with intent of taking some damage in the hopes that Kevins overly aggressive nature would cause him to make a mistake...

WS has the neither the luxury of prep nor the option of just letting Kevin attack him as Marv will be inflicting punishment on WS as well...

Edit

Kevin vs Marv...round 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hESaFaN2zeQ

Kevin vs Marv...round 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf3jxKn3Fo4

Like I said if you seriously believe Marv or Kevin are a threat to a superhuman assassin who can go toe to toe with Captain America. You have no place on these forums

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Like I said if you seriously believe Marv or Kevin are a threat to a superhuman assassin who can go toe to toe with Captain America. You have no place on these forums

I dont think its out of bounds to believe that they are a threat to WS; he absolutely could not ignore them if they attacked him...

Now could they beat WS? Maybe, maybe not...

Yes, WS can go toe to toe with Cap, but Marv and Kevin are pretty strong in thier own right...

Marv hits like a truck as can be seen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNom4k5Pwb8


In addition, Marv has been run over by a fast moving car multiple times and was able to just get up and shake it off...

With that in mind, Kevin was strong enough to KO Marv with a sledgehammer...

You're completely ignoring the massive skilled difference... marv is but a simple brawler while WS is a military assassin. You saw what happened when marv fought ONE fairly competent fighter in Kevin. He was destroyed. Kevin himself could only take one punch from marv. WS annihilates them both

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Marv and Kevin defeated the other once; so they are 1-1 vs each other...

I do have to add that when Marv beat Kevin, Marv had prep... Yeah, and the prep was useless, Kevin caught Marv off-guard IIRC.

Marv ended up having to have a fair fight against him because his trap failed.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
You're completely ignoring the massive skilled difference... marv is but a simple brawler while WS is a military assassin. You saw what happened when marv fought ONE fairly competent fighter in Kevin. He was destroyed. Kevin himself could only take one punch from marv. WS annihilates them both He wasn't destroyed, he won the fight, with one punch, lmao.

Of course there's a massive skill difference, but Kevin has the skills, Marv has the strength and the durability.

Marv could Full Nelson WS' ass and let Kevin beat on him.


Even without that, Marv could distract WS in a one-on-one fight (Which will last awhile, because Marv is not going down easy), and Kevin could do something of a surprise attack.

Kevin also has those claw-like nails, could slice WS' neck.

And Marv obviously isn't gonna be down long enough for WS to take out Kevin.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Based on?

Kevin is fast enough to dodge a flurry of close range gun fire with ease...

And yes, Marv was able to tag him, but there is context to that; Marv prepped for Kevin with the handcuffs (so that Kevin couldnt dodge once caught) furthermore, Marv allowed Kevin to get close him with intent of taking some damage in the hopes that Kevins overly aggressive nature would cause him to make a mistake...

WS has the neither the luxury of prep nor the option of just letting Kevin attack him as Marv will be inflicting punishment on WS as well... Based on Bucky being able to grab him and break his neck within seconds.

I think Marv can ko Bucky in a few hits. But that's just me.

Yes, that is just you.

WS wins. LoM is getting upset.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, that is just you.

H1 is in LoM's camp. Kiss of death.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
He wasn't destroyed, he won the fight, with one punch, lmao.

Of course there's a massive skill difference, but Kevin has the skills, Marv has the strength and the durability.

Marv could Full Nelson WS' ass and let Kevin beat on him.


Even without that, Marv could distract WS in a one-on-one fight (Which will last awhile, because Marv is not going down easy), and Kevin could do something of a surprise attack.

Kevin also has those claw-like nails, could slice WS' neck.

And Marv obviously isn't gonna be down long enough for WS to take out Kevin.
You do know WS is stronger than Marv?
He'd attempt a full Nelson and end up getting his back broken

Marv has some good strength feats of his own; heres a good one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ambe20oCBRs

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
You do know WS is stronger than Marv?
He'd attempt a full Nelson and end up getting his back broken I disagree. I believe Marv is stronger than WS human arm. WS robot arm is slightly stronger than Marv IMO. It doesn't matter because a couple of hits by Marv and WS is out for the count. I just don't see WS durability being good enough to withstand that type of strength.
He WTF shattered bullet proof helmets in one blow while koing a human.
He bust through a wooden door like tissue paper while knocking two heavy armed officers over 15feet away.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Marv has some good strength feats of his own; heres a good one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ambe20oCBRs He loses you idiot. Cry harder.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. I believe Marv is stronger than WS human arm. WS robot arm is slightly stronger than Marv IMO. It doesn't matter because a couple of hits by Marv and WS is out for the count. I just don't see WS durability being good enough to withstand that type of strength.
He WTF shattered bullet proof helmets in one blow while koing a human.
He bust through a wooden door like tissue paper while knocking two heavy armed officers over 15feet away.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. I believe Marv is stronger than WS human arm. WS robot arm is slightly stronger than Marv IMO. It doesn't matter because a couple of hits by Marv and WS is out for the count. I just don't see WS durability being good enough to withstand that type of strength.
He WTF shattered bullet proof helmets in one blow while koing a human.
He bust through a wooden door like tissue paper while knocking two heavy armed officers over 15feet away.

And he has feats even more impressive than that...

Wait until you see the movie...

Marv is awesome...

He was hit dead on by a fast moving car several times and shot several times and just shook it off...

No one cares who you think is awesome you delusional fanboy. He gets crushed here. WS wins again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He loses you idiot.

Thats debatable you idiot...

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one cares who you think is awesome you delusional fanboy. He gets crushed here. WS wins again.

The evidence says that its not that simple...

A strong case can definitely be made for Marv and Kevin beating WS here...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The evidence says that its not that simple...

A strong case can definitely be made for Marv and Kevin beating WS here... In another thread you scream about th voting but ignore it here thus proving you're a hypocrite. You named feats none of which prove these two dummies can touch WS. Marvel heroes would wipe their asses with Sin City piles of shit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In another thread you scream about th voting but ignore it here thus proving you're a hypocrite. You named feats none of which prove these two dummies can touch WS. Marvel heroes would wipe their asses with Sin City piles of shit.

I'm not ignoring anything...

I am simply saying that there is enough evidence present to support a belief that Marv and Kevin could beat WS...

You, on the other hand, are demonstrating your extreme Marvel bias over and over again...

Are you tired of sucking on Walt Disney's pecker yet?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'm not ignoring anything...

I am simply saying that there is enough evidence present to support a belief that Marv and Kevin could beat WS...

You, on the other hand, are demonstrating your extreme Marvel bias over and over again...

Are you tired of sucking on Walt Disney's pecker yet?

No, there isn't it's just you being idiotic once again. You post clips saying hey guys check this out. He's pretty cool, huh ? You come across like a child seeking an adults approval. You're hideously stupid and unable to even form a coherent thought let alone a well structured argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, there isn't it's just you being idiotic once again. You post clips saying hey guys check this out. He's pretty cool, huh ? You come across like a child seeking an adults approval. You're hideously stupid and unable to even form a coherent thought let alone a well structured argument.

My entire argument is very well structured and coherent...

Marv and Kevin are both superhuman and have the feats to suggest that they have a realistic chance of victory against Winter Soldier...

You have simply spent too much time worshipping Marvel to recognize it...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My entire argument is very well structured and coherent...

Marv and Kevin are both superhuman and have the feats to suggest that they have a realistic chance of victory against Winter Soldier...

You have simply spent too much time worshipping Marvel to recognize it...

No, it isn't but you can't even use a period to end your se t des, dumbass.

No, they don't and the votes don't support that. Most here say they get crushed because they do.

You're the only one saying otherwise and aren't using relevant evidence to support your claims. You're begging for acceptance. Pathetic. Pitiful. Weak.

I'm not the only one saying that Marv/Kevin wins...

Marv and Kevin have an excellent chance to win here based on the evidence...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'm not the only one saying that Marv/Kevin wins...

Marv and Kevin have an excellent chance to win here based on the evidence...

Yes, you are. What evidence ? What's relevant that says these two losers have a chance against WS ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, you are. What evidence ? What's relevant that says these two losers have a chance against WS ?

Marvs extreme durability, strength, and toughness...

Kevins extreme skill, strength, agility, and lethal claws...

These clowns must have never see WS in any film...

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
These clowns must have never see WS in any film...

Is name calling really needed?

Also, we dam well have seen all of Winter Soldiers appearances; yes, he's impressive...no doubt.

But Marv and Kevin are impressive as well...

You say that WS is much stronger than Marv, but I disagree based on what I've seen out of Marv...

Marv has shown himself to be strong enough to rip Cell Bars right out of a thick, reinforced, concrete wall...

Marv has shown himself to be strong enough to (with a single backhand) not only 1 shot a door, but hit it with such force that he sent the heavily armored policemen on the other side of the door literally flying through the air...

Marv is durable enough to be completely run over by a fast moving car, shot afterwards, and just shake it off...

Marv is a bad@ss and, IMHO, has enough in the way of feats to support an argument that he can compete with Winter Soldier (especially with Kevin as a partner)...

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. I believe Marv is stronger than WS human arm. WS robot arm is slightly stronger than Marv IMO. It doesn't matter because a couple of hits by Marv and WS is out for the count. I just don't see WS durability being good enough to withstand that type of strength.
He WTF shattered bullet proof helmets in one blow while koing a human.
He bust through a wooden door like tissue paper while knocking two heavy armed officers over 15feet away.

Yet you see Marv's speed and skill as good enough to land those "couple of hits". your bias is showing again.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
These clowns must have never see WS in any film...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Marvs extreme durability, strength, and toughness...

Kevins extreme skill, strength, agility, and lethal claws...

Their skill level doesn't compete with the level of skill and strength WS has shown in their films. You're a clown. You are being mocked. Take it, *****.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Originally posted by quanchi112
Their skill level doesn't compete with the level of skill and strength WS has shown in their films. You're a clown. You are being mocked. Take it, *****.

Yes they do...

Marv and Kevin have a real chance of victory here...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Do not be upset no one respects you. That's who you are.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yes they do...

Marv and Kevin have a real chance of victory here...

Only some owne without a functioning brain such as yourself thinks so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do not be upset no one respects you. That's who you are.

I get more respect than you...

Everyone laughs at you...

Everyone knows you are the troll king supreme....

You just mad because Marv and Kevin have the feats to support them winning this fight...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I get more respect than you...

Everyone laughs at you...

Everyone knows you are the troll king supreme....

You just mad because Marv and Kevin have the feats to support them winning this fight...

Dude, no one respects you. People just mock you. You haven't refuted anyone's point ever. You don't even understand the basic concepts in a debate. It's very sad.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, no one respects you. People just mock you. You haven't refuted anyone's point ever. You don't even understand the basic concepts in a debate. It's very sad.

I understand debating far better than you do...

You are the idiot that everyone here laughs at and doesnt respect...

You are the ultimate troll that people tolerate just to get a laugh out of...

Nothing more...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I understand debating far better than you do...

You are the idiot that everyone here laughs at and doesnt respect...

You are the ultimate troll that people tolerate just to get a laugh out of...

Nothing more... As I said you do not understand the simplest of concepts. Your debate style is begging for people to like you with clips that are laughable. Your point was hey guys this is pretty cool, right ? They have a chance, right guys ?

Loser...

Originally posted by quanchi112
As I said you do not understand the simplest of concepts. Your debate style is begging for people to like you with clips that are laughable. Your point was hey guys this is pretty cool, right ? They have a chance, right guys ?

Loser...

Says he that declares winners in fights without having seen a single combat feat from one of the combatants...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Says he that declares winners in fights without having seen a single combat feat from one of the combatants...

I speculated. We can battlezone it after the film. Let's see if you'll take the challenge. I bet you won't, loser. You can't debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I speculated. We can battlezone it after the film. Let's see if you'll take the challenge. I bet you won't, loser. You can't debate.

You speculate all the time...

Speculating isnt debating...

I debate better than you...

LoM for the win...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You speculate all the time...

Speculating isnt debating...

I debate better than you...

LoM for the win...

We speculate all the time on matchups we don't see. See you're too stupid to think. The statements you make tell me you're either mentally retarded or ten years old. Which is it ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
We speculate all the time on matchups we don't see. See you're too stupid to think. The statements you make tell me you're either mentally retarded or ten years old. Which is it ?

My statements are based on fact...

Your statements are based on stupidity and opinion...

LoM for the win...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My statements are based on fact...

Your statements are based on stupidity and opinion...

LoM for the win...

You just said you don't speculate and then I called you on it. You're dumb. This is why no one respects you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just said you don't speculate and then I called you on it. You're dumb. This is why no one respects you.

You didnt call me on anything...

You are the one who speculates here and even admits it...

I argue based on empirical data...

LoM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quanchi....

Marv and Kevin win...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You didnt call me on anything...

You are the one who speculates here and even admits it...

I argue based on empirical data...

LoM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quanchi....

Marv and Kevin win...

We all do since most of these matchups will never officially occur. You are too stupid to even realize that hence why I say you don't understand the simplest concepts of debating.