The Official Symbiote Thread

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Robo-Chocobo
Talk about what ever you want involving the alien symbiotes here.

pics, ideas, discussions, the works. bring it here.

grey fox
mwahahahahahhh finnaly

rigth fist idea why not give mary jane the venom symbyote once just to test how it works it would go very well because you could have the old she,s my love yet she,s my enemy you know sort of a otacon sniperwolf thing

Heathsaid
Im actualy looking for Pictures of Carnages off springs. Scream and the group. Preferably singlular pictures and Bio's to go with them... that would be three kinds of awsome

Ghetto Goblin
i was just joking when i said to make this thread, other-wise i would have made it myself, there is already an officiall thread for venom and carnage, that is close enough to this so go post your ideas there.

BTW, it is friday the 13th, and i have 13 letters in my name, i am 13, and i'm gonna die, no, i am actually haveing good luck today, i am suppost to mow the lawn today, but some how it mowed itself overnight, no one else did it, especially my dad, he never does it. but i don't believe in all that stuff anyways.

Robo-Chocobo
DO NOT DEFY THE BIRD. and carnage hasnt had any kids, he's having one now in the carnage vs venom mini. that's venom who is the baby machine.

Ghetto Goblin
robot chocolate or what ever (robo-chocobo) i'll defy whom ever i want.

Robo-Chocobo
NOT ME!!!*activates ultima weapon*


Look, this isnt about defying me, its about talking about symbiotes. get talking. like about the awful art from the venom mini series.

Ghetto Goblin
ohhh, ahhh, uhhh, ehhh, POOP.

oops, when i have to think of something fast so i don't die, something spontanious comes out.

well simbiotes, don't they give birth right away, or split in 2. how do they do it, do they do what humans do, or do they just, split? and why isn't carnage the same colour as venom? he came from him didn't he?

fever red
I think symbiotes adapt to hosts and take their appearances from the hosts' desires.
Cletus just digs being covered in blood.
Apparently, Venom's two female offspring were valley girls, fixating on eighties hair.
Marvel is giving Carnage's offspring a resemblance to him because the most appealing/intriguing thing this charactor will probably ever possess is its connection to Carnage.
I haven't read the series so I have one question: where did Cletus take his Lamaze class? Hahaaaa.
Breath, Kasady, breath. Push!

fever red
Oh, and I hate the idea of just one symbiote thread. They're gonna break out of here, though- symbiotes alway break out.

Ghetto Goblin
i asked how were they born also, anybody got that answer.erm

badsymbiote
Well, currently in the Marvel universe, we have a couple of newborn offspring to celebrate. In Ultimate Spidey's Carnage arc, we have Dr. Conners experimenting with some of Parker's dna, and adding it to some mish-mashed almagam that he'd been working with previously--but of course, the experiment got out of hand, and thus, the self-incubating Carnage symbiote is born.
Also, in the Venom and Carnage limited series, Carnage anxiously awaits the arrival of his offspring, Toxin (whom he implanted in a human host), but not with the most fatherly of intentions!

fever red
You know Bad Symbiote could tell you- she has children.

fever red
Whoops- cross-posted. Gosh you're on the ball tonite.

badsymbiote
Now, for the rest of you...

fox--I wouldn't want MJ to use a symbiote's power to muscle into a modeling job, or to purloin a perfect outfit--come on, talk about misuse.

Heathsaid--bios? Hell, no. But I will contribute pics. I seem to remember someone posting a brief bio about the symbiote offspring and their hosts, maybe in the female symbiote thread...I can't remember.
Robo was there, I remember that, and maybe kiekan--hey! where is kiekan, anyway?

GG-make a contribution or make yourself scarce.

Robo-Chocobo
nice pics. I should check that post out , thanks bad.

and fever red, that was funny about what you said about off spring.

grey fox
ok then no mary venom them what about gwen carange here is the perfect ultimate storyline ofr that

peter is greiving from gwen's death when in fact she is currently being cloned by doc conners for the purpose of being bonded with carnage because the original eventually dies after not gettign enough go-go juice out of humans he recreates canrage and cloens gwen because seeign gwen alive and as his enemy will cause peter enough trama to go itno shock where she will transform and kill peter and the reson because doc coners liekd beign the lizzard and peter fu**ed it up

Lazlow
Well, apart from the begininning of this thread, I find it particularly intriguing. Here's my shpiel. If you guys read any Top Cow comics, Witchblade, Tomb, Raider, Rising Stars, etc., and you've seen the beautiful art they've done, I think it'd be pretty awesome if the Top Cow company was able to pull off doing a Venom/Carnage/any other symbiotic character in the Spider-Maniverse. If you don't know Top Cow...check out their website.

fever red
Witchblade caliber art with Ann Weying She-Venom versus Carnage... and I die happy. (heart bursting with love)

Lazlow
*salutes* Hey hey. Someone that knows all to well. I do have to agree with you. *heart burst because of an overjoyed aneurism*

Robo-Chocobo
wow, I will go there...the moment somone post the actual web address.

fever red
Just imagine Carnage's eyes when he sees She-Venom. Kasady's been locked away how many years? Wouldn't be a fair fight, would it?

Robo-Chocobo
?trust me, hes not the girlfriend type. and he wouldnt shout.

"MOMMY!!!*crying**burying face in chest in a strange hug*

he had a girlfriend ..shriek...practically killed her

fever red
I think Kasady definitely expects life to hand him a beautiful woman on a platter, and for her to be slavishly devoted to him- he may be a narcissist; he often behaves in accord with that personality disorder, among others. Narcissists also tend to be enraged when people fail to treat them as they "deserve" to be treated. His entire relationship with Shreik followed this pattern. She's just what he needs/deserves, then she's a a presumptuous, interfering, betraying parasite. Then she submits and it's all good again.
Adorable couple!

Robo-Chocobo
yep...bad s was right aboutthe kooky part...

Ghetto Goblin
sorry badsimbiote, i just want to know how, one symbiote gives birth to another, do they just split apart into two.

and if anyone askes a question that i know, then i'll answer it. big grin wink

fever red
I'd like to invite all symbiote fans to pool our resources of symbiote fan fiction. Besides Koto's She-Venom, I've found some other fan fictions with moments of merit.
I suggest all Carnage fans check out this cute, light-hearted romp I found recently. There are quite a few touching and tender, sensitively-written scenes in which Carnage murders a whole bunch of people.
It also involves Venom, done fairly well.
I don't know how to post links, so I have to give directions:
using Yahoo Advanced search, enter
under "all of these words"- avengers amazing spiderman carnage
under "the exact phrase" - fan fiction
should be at the top of the page. its Avengers 2000 Presents: Amazing Spiderman

Heathsaid
Ghetto Goblin --- I think Symboites reproduce by splitting off into two beings. Like microscopic stuff does... it just... ooses off a ball of gew which becomes a new being.

Robo-Chocobo
that seems to be the only real way, unless another ball of slime plops off the first one...

Ghetto Goblin
thanks, and i'm gonna try that link.

Ghetto Goblin
www(DOT)ironrodstudio(DOT)com/av2000/issue.asp?issueid=575

badsymbiote
Yes, GG--the symbiotes reproduce asexually--and in Carnage's case, that just means that one of Venom's tendrils that was left behind in their hasty escape was strong and viable enough to bond with the remaining human host--in this case, Brock's cell-mate Cletus Kasady.
So, generally, it's asexual reproduction, but it can happen in other ways. And, as in Venom and Carnage's current limited series, generally the symbiote's parents care nothing for their offspring. Good enough?

Spiderman_RJ
carnage had 3 offsprings? and who the heck is hybrid?one of them?

Spiderman_RJ
carnage is same colour of venom,the difference is tha kasady tends to like blood and so the simbio got boold bathed and keeped the boold also it bonded to kasady blood, i like him better its like venom is a cadillac and carnage is the ferrari

Spiderman_RJ
i never saw he doing bad to her. and didnt srhreak got back at normal life like edwards the ratussss guy?

Spiderman_RJ
that fanfic may even be good i still havent read it, but theres no art in it.:P

is donna dead or just her simbio? how the heck carnage scaped from the silver surfer , jail?

Jesters Bong
i am a noobie here, how do i get a freakin pic by my name

Spiderman_RJ
i already pmed u, hope its usefull

badsymbiote
"WE WANT THIS THREAD TO REMAIN ON TOPIC, SO CUT THE CHIT-CHAT, LADIES..."
Pardon me, that was semi-rude. And I'm only kidding. Actually, I'm fairly impressed, RJ--check you out--helping new members, and who have thought it. Certainly not I, with all the arguments you and I have had, all the hostilities mended by VENOMfan, and now, practically chums.

grey fox
ahh that picture would be when brock decides to go for the long hair option please someone tell me carnage obnded with gwen is a good idea

Spiderman_RJ
LOL>since whenvenom has spider-sense roll eyes (sarcastic)
laughing

fever red
Yes, Grey Fox, I think in Ultimate having a She-Carnage bonded with Gwen would have been a tasty infusion of new blood to the symbiote mythos. I'd like to see you write an Alt Ult fanfic on that; you have the inspiration so you're ten percent done. Now you'll have to wring out that other ninety percent perspiration!

Robo-Chocobo
GREY FOX PLEEEAAASE START SPELLING CORRECTLY.

and is ultimate carnage even a symbiote? i mean,he doesnt really seem like one.

Spiderman_RJ
well to sustain his blood massive he will need one, so well have may carnage, the old well feel better and wont like peter as spiderman and being mad will try to kill him

Robo-Chocobo
um dude, you need to translate that better.

o senhor, traduz por favor mais melhor.

Spiderman_RJ

fever red
Continuing to post my "Moments of Merit" Symbiote fan fictions.
This one I give 4 stars.
I post it as a gift to "Mom." Bad S, this one's for you. Hope you LOL.
Address: (bad address)

fever red
Oh dear- a bad address? Tchh.
Apologies.
Try typing the words:
pscho-analysing my symbiote
into the google advanced search
this is the title of a short and sweet Eddie symfanfic
I laughed; I cried; I felt closer to Eddie than I ever have...

badsymbiote
Oh, well in that case, I'ma go check it right now. And thanks Red, for thinking of little ol' me...

badsymbiote
Oh, Lord, that's funny. I'm going to try to post it here for everyone else. It's well-written, and very humorous. The author is a true Venom fan, or at least an avid comic-book-reader.

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/features/symbiote.html

fever red
I've dropped a (web)line to the author, letting them know of my appreciation. I encourage all others to do the same. Symfanfic is a rare thing, especially when done well.
And "Mom," have you read the carnage symfanfic I found? The scene with the elderly woman is Cletus at his best! Maliciously delicious. Some decent Eddie in that fic too, and it looks to be shaping up into an almighty bruhaha.

badsymbiote
Negative. I have not read it. Tell me, friend, where will I find this little gem?

fever red
Ooo! OOo! I can guess. I can guess! Call on me!
Um, I think I posted directions earlier in this thread.
Now, I have something else for you to chew on.
That last fanfic made me hungry, so I've come up with a tasty recipe by channeling two infamous celebrities. As you all know, I'm entertained by the philosophies of both Carnage and Martha Stewart (while subscribing fully to neither), so this is an homage to them.
Take:
One pound fresh brains (preferably from an "innocent"wink
One jar high-quality hot fudge
Gently press brains into antique jello mold and chill for one hour in your $5000 dollar designor all-stainless-steel refridgerator.
Serve smothered in hot fudge.

Enjoy, kiddies. It's a good thing.

fever red
And if the big C were making a guest appearance on Martha's show, we all know whose brains he'd be using... hahaaa! Martha Stewart Dying.
Oh, wait- she's not "innocent," is she?
Someone alert my Doctor- I'm using comics again.

GG has posted the correct address for that C/V symfanfic. It's actually spider-centric (sadly) but has both the big syms as featured supporting cast.

badsymbiote
Oh, poor Martha.
I like the Arachnid, too, Red, so that won't deter me.

Oh, and since you earlier mentioned authors, I just thought I'd mention that a couple of days ago I recieved an e-mail from one Mr. Daniel Way, the father and writer of the Tsunami Venom series. he wanted to thank me for my kind words about his book, and that made me realize that he'd been reading our stuff here.
Thankfully, at least one of one of us on this forum--namely ME, ever bothered to say something positive about his work--no, just kidding, there were a few others. kiekan and FeceMan, for example also were fans of the book.
Since this month will give us the last issue in this title, I will dedicate myself to Way and all the artists (too many to list now) who worked their asses of to bring us an under-hyped and under-celebrated story. It was a labor of love, and a title that required a little something from the reader--2 attributes that many do not possess--intellect and patience.
Thank you, Daniel Way...

grey fox
hallelughya


oh and here is the starter to my story so be nice

the thunder rumbled and lightning flashed as a shadow moved through the lab the shadow suddenly turned the light on revealing it as doctor Kurt conners more widely known as the lizard and the creator of the monster known as carnage he walked past a cryogenic freezer and opened one of the doors pulling out a small test tube filled with a black substance he held it in his one hand and slowly made his way to a book case he shoulder shoved it away to the side revealing a secret entrance
he walked down the stairs and made his way along the corridor

he soon found what he was looking for two tanks one had two plastic circles on one of them had one each tank generated their own light and were filled with a liquid that was 90% air inside one was a pile of red flesh with tendrils everywhere it had a deformed head of sorts his name was carnage in the seperate tank was a 17 year old girl who had long blonde hair that streamed down her face and just touched her shoulders her name was gwen stacy

carnage carnage carnage repeated conners as if scolding a child you could have destroyed parker but no you kill everyone else he said in a not so happy tone and then you get thrown into a building by parker and beat near to death because you killed her luckily there was enough living tissue left for me to clone her and she has all of her memories although she will be disorientated enough for me to use her


you two shall be my ultimate creation to get revenge on peter parker for changing me back i was happy as the lizard i was....free
now for the final adjustment he opened one of the plastic circles on carnages tank and inserted the testtube he watched as the black substance made its way into the tank and attached itself to carnage who sudenly changed couler slightly and had black parts all over him, conner's closed the plastic lid and opened the second one and the one on gwen's tank he then put a metal tube into both plastic lids and pressed a button on a console carnage was slowly sucked from his tank into gwens conners watched in a sick fascination as carnage wrapped itself around the girls body covering her head to foot in himself in a matter of minutes it was complete

gwen's pov

uhh my head we wake what we ! yes i remember now we were fighting with peter my other told me to look out as he slammed us into a building we forgive him for that it was not his fault he did not know it was us but that s**t mary jane has stolen my peter.


we watch as our tank is opened and we jump down we are currently using our human form as not to scare doctor conners we notice a slight chill and remember we are not wearing any clothes my other changes into them for me as i shake my hair to get the wetness out

are you alright ask,s the doctor we turn to him and say fine he had a look of anger on his face perhaps we said that a little to harsh we walk up to him and say sorry we suddenly call him over to us a plan forming what is it ask,s the unsuspecting docter we shift into out other we look at our claws momentarily before shoving them through his chest we soon walk away intent on getting out peter back none may have him but she carnage

scibott
First, that story was fairly entertaining, thank you fever red, for posting the directions to it.
Sceond, badsymbiote, too true. It's interesting that you actually have been contacted by such a person. I have had many attempts, all of which ended with failure. Excellent images, by the way.
Thirdly, grey fox, would you like me to post revisions of your story? Punctuation, grammatical repairs, and proper layout, to name a few.
Finally, the status of the 'Fright Mode' of SciBiote is nearing rough sketch completion. I have located a new image host. I am working on everything as fast as I possibly can. Projected 3D model completion: imaginably 2+ months. SciBiote series completion: within 1 month. New website layout: unknown.

grey fox
that would be nice thank you noew if you exscuse me i have to takeo ut a metal gear ray


ray : (jumps off of pier )

grey fox : *jumps after him *

fever red
Grey Fox- that was wonderful!
I've noticed your talent, imagination, and energy in your posts and I KNEW you could cook up some a$$-kicking fiction if you set your mind to it. Thank-you, I enjoyed!

Ironman 66
venom is the best symbiote

Robo-Chocobo
GOLD 5 SAYS: STAY ON TOPIC!!!!

fever red
Another "Moment of Merit"
3 stars. This one has a sinister, tense, creepy mood. Although it is first person, you do not feel you're really getting closer to the narrator as the story progresses. You draw back, in horror- you find the narrator unpredictable and unnerving, more so than you expect... What will he do next? Is he about to do something horrible? Surely not- but then- who can say?
Read and enjoy this symfan fic by "the chosen shadow" entitled "Happy birthday."
Directions: using Yahoo Advanced search, enter-
in the "all these words" box: happy birthday venom
in the "exact phrase" box: chosen shadow

And mom, do you notice an odd similarity to the previous symfanfic? Hmmm. There's a definite pattern here...
Say- why doesn't anybody write any decent Carnage fanfic? Most of the ones I read I would rate on a scale of "sonic blasts" rather than stars. (for painfulness)

fever red
Except Grey Fox's recent offering. 2 stars- fix the grammar and I'll add a third.

fever red
Stop the presses. This just in: Fever Red Finds Fabulous Carnage Fanfic.
Kiddies, this is front page material. I may marry the author. His take on Clete is so similar to mine... this inspiring, heart-warming story has it all: a lovable protagonist, plenty of fresh meat, hot lovin', and I've only read the first two chapters so far.
One thing bothers me: I'm writing my own C symfic, and in it, Clete evolves the same advanced ability that this author has him develop. And this author does a MUCH better job of establishing the new power and AAAGH!
Well, looking on the bright side: now all the work's been done for me!
Read this fanfic and nobody here has to get hurt-
author is "Blaque Cell"
symfic is "Symbiote Holocaust"
I'm going back to read more. I will continue to read until my eyes fall out. Then I will borrow my neighbor's eyes and continue reading.
If you like it at all, please let the author know.
Love to all.

fever red
Oh, I forgot to rate it. Five stars, baby, count 'em, five!

badsymbiote
Much to respond to here, so I choose to do it in this fashion--

1st--fox--that was pretty good writing, son, and I see that you are making a concerted effort on the typing...

2nd--Scibott--thank fyou for the compliment on the pics--and do you think it's rare to be contacted by writers and stuff--I did think it was pretty cool. I also got an e-mail from artist Skottie Young a couple of months ago as well, but I initially contacted him. By the next morning, he had responded so quickly and sweetly, thanking me several times for my interest, thus, making me a devoted fan of his...

3rd--Ironman 66-- you are correct!

4th--Robo--"WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THE MAN OF IRON'S DEVIATION FROM THE TOPIC IS ACCEPTABLE."

And last, but certainly not least--

Red--thanks for finding the awesome Venom fanfic--my, but you are tenacious, missy. Read the Venom one--thought it was fab--will write review later. In the meantime, I'm posting the address so we can share your wonderful discovery with all...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1943496/1

The Carnage story you found is on deck next for me...

fever red
Have to warn you, it is gruesome. I didn't post exact directions because I don't think the under-age should read it. Heck, I shouldn't read it...
Can't wait to discuss it more once you've had a peek. I'm sure you'll find it; otherwise let me know and I'll Pm you.

badsymbiote
Well, I found the guy, and I peeked at the style--but I couldn't find "Symbiote Holocaust" anywhere--I'll try again in a bit--but, I'll tell ya right now, since you like it so much, I'm sure it'll be a great read. (though personally, I loved the first 2 Venom stories you steered me to, and wonder if this will be able to top those)

fever red
Oh, this tops those. It is so good, it shouldn't be free. But it is! Fanfic is WHERE ITS AT.
I don't give Five stars out easily. I wade through dozens of fanfics a week and so far I've posted how many?
I'm thinking, for our amusement, I may post directions to some of the worst. The ones that are five sonic blasts of pain, featuring everything from Brock/Parker slash to Kasady hugging bunny rabbits. And oh, god, the grammer...the grammer...
And, Mom? Is it just me or did you also go out and buy a chocolate bar today?

badsymbiote
"WHY DO YOU ASK? DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR PERSONAL CONSTITUTION IS SO PRIMITIVE?!? OK, OK. WE MAY HAVE HAD SOME CHOCOLATE TODAY--JUST A NIBBLE, MIND YOU-- TO PLACATE OUR OTHER."

grey fox
super funny * looks up* oh crap *hanging lver fox is the metal gear ray he was chasing 'mouth' open laser chargin *

grey fox
chapter 2 of she carnage

gwen,s pov

we walk down the streets slowly looking around we need our peter he brigns us happiness and we aren,t feelign happy we are considerign hurtign someone to get his attention our stomach suddenyl grumbles we get hungry like everyone else we suddenly get an idea he hide in a alley and grab a woamn walkign past she screams for a few minuites we then snap her neck and eat her mmm she tasted delicuous we knew the screams woudl get our peter coming we watch as he swigns in, in that silly spider costume he looks at us for a few minuites thinking we are venom as soon as he calls us that we reveal ourseves we can read his emotions very well we see the shock and anger under that mask he think,s my other killed me we laugh in his face agitatign him he suddenyl ask,s us to show ourselves sinceour face is in the sahdows so we comply we let the mask recede shwoign ourselves we love the fear and happinss mix on his face

peter's pov

my god i cant belivei t gwen she,s ...alive i run up and hug her beofre realizing she is bonded to that..that thing i let go and back away she looks at me and say,s "waht dont you like us anymore peter" because we like you she sai,d softly runnign her finger down my chest i blush and push her away im sorry gwen i say but no i am with mary jane your always with amy jane she say's back to me wel ove you were devoted to you and you go and kck us in the teeth

gwen,s pov

ok then we think if he will not accept us then we will force him tendrils come of our body and grab him pullingh im towards us we rip off his mask and kiss him deeply hoping he will get the idea he still struggles and tries to push us away we have had enoughsuddenyl a fist comes down on our face we look up it is venom but it looks different he is thinner and hsi hcest is....it dawned o us it is a she not a he we flip forwards pushing peter away not wantign hi mto get hurt and we get ready to fight

fever red
Nice- but I haven't been following Ult Spidey- is She-Venom in Ult spidey or just in your version? I hope you'll give us her origin just as you gave us Gwen's. I don't like spontaneous charactor generation in a fanfic.
I like Gwen's inner dialogue and I love that she tries to have her way with Pete- yum!

Ghetto Goblin
hi-oh





















ummm, what were you talking about a comic that we shouldn't read, heck i'll read it anyways, don't be a wuss.

fever red
Say, Bad S, found it yet? Or do you give up?
All bow to the superior search skills of She-Carnage (not to mention my alliterative agility).

badsymbiote
"GIVE UP?!? HELL, NO!!! WE DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD 'FAILURE'--BUT IF YOU TELL US HOW TO SPELL IT, WE GUESS WE COULD LOOK IT UP IN OUR DICTIONARY."

(God, I love writing in the 2nd person pov.)

badsymbiote
Oh, my God. That was sure worth my time! I got the whole address, and I'm gonna read it again before my bedtime. This guy is good--you were right, Red. The story really starts by kinda tugging your heartstrings a little bit. Then you get to the next chapter, and you're semi-horrified.
It's a universally frightful story to women--and what women hasn't found herself on the frays of danger, that God it wasn't Kasady who tried to grab me, 'cuz I doubt I'd have been able to escape him.

Excellent work finding that. You must be part bloodhound or something.
Thanks again. God, that story was awesome.

grey fox
what story what *olga gulekervich (think i spelt thatr right ^__^) comes onto the forum* fake ninja die *attacks her slicing head off in one clean swipe*

Shade
Hello everyone. The Chosen Shadow is the name, pleasure to meet you all, and I'm very honored to have that story posted here

And, red, I'm writing a Carnage and Venom fic right now smile

fever red
oooo, we got another one! WE GOT ANOTHER ONE! Shade, now that you're here, you can never leave...
I eagerly await reading your new symfanfic. Thanks for dropping in. We appreciate you; and we're always glad to know when a fanfic author appreciates us.

fever red
For those who haven't read it, Chosen Shadow is the author of "Happy Birthday," a phenomonal symfanfic featuring Venom.
Mom- I think the only dialogue better than Spidey's in SymHolocaust is Kasady's. His every line in the bedroom scenes reflects that self-aggrandizing, narcissistic person that I've always seen him as.
And the line about the "little webshooter..." LOLOLOL.
Everything is funny and unsettling at the same time. And wait till you get to chapter seven- I can just picture Kasady's face and posture. The whole scene/situation is fully horrific. I can see him... he's never looked more like a nightmare...a fever dream of red...
Do you understand now just how interesting a charactor Kasady can be in his simplicity, his banality, his realism?

badsymbiote
Oh, I read it all yesterday, and it was great. That guy knows his Cletus, that's for sure. I loved the webshooter line, too. Thought it was among the best of them.
Yes. I understand about Kasady's personality, and I'll admit that the story did endear him to him a bit more than I'm accustomed, but there's only room here for one fevered Carnage fan--and I can't think of anyone better suited for that job than you.

fever red
He just dropped me a line and I invited him here. Hopefully he'll pop in. He says he had "forgotten" the story and hadn't revisited it in a year! Where it is at now is climactic, it could almost be a dark ending- but naturally we'd all like to see Spidey somehow escape this certain death.

fever red
Don't you agree, Romero must have been an influence? Perhaps he had recently watched DawnOTDead when this fic began to incubate inside him... The descriptions evoke the same kind of confrontational death and loss-of-soul that faces us, no- assaults us, in the Dead trilogy.

badsymbiote
Oh, Hell, you're a Romero fan, too? At the risk of sounding totally bisexual here, I gotta say, I effin love you, girl. Did you see the remake? I've watched it 6 times. Normally, I don't like remakes, but I dare say this one was fabulous.

I'd be surprised if Blaque Cell didn't join us--you are a pretty engaging woman

Blaque Cell
People liked Symbiote Holocaust? I was drunk when I wrote it!
Seriously, though, I'm glad people liked it. Thanks to Fever Red for inviting me here.

badsymbiote
I f*cking loved it. I thought it was wonderfully written, and both funny and frightening.
Welcome to kmc. Nice to have to you here.

grey fox
welcome to hell mwahahahaahahah (sorry like isaid i get up ealy eat sweets get sugar rush listen to rock so i basicaly go mad on the comp but anywho im probably gonna write another she carnage maby later today or maby tommorow dontknow i might hurry up is badsymbyote posts me her part of the fan fic

Blaque Cell
Much thanks. Glad to be here. I'm glad I'm not the only Symbiote fan 'round these parts.

badsymbiote
What are you talking about? You didn't get it, fox? I typed that damned thing twice. But, I'm glad I lost the first, I think I was happier with the second. You really didn't get it? I sent it to you four or five days ago.

badsymbiote
Certainly not. But it seems that you and fever red both share the same sort of fondness for the offspring known as Carnage. Even I came away from your story a liking him a bit more, and that's saying alot.

Blaque Cell
I've noticed that many Venom fans don't like Carnage, and vice-versa. But in reality, you'd be surprised. Venom is actually my favorite villain. I already have a few story ideas for him. Might not be as graphically violent as SC was, but I still think I'm about ready to write my little Venom tale.

Blaque Cell
I'm thinkin' of marrying the girl!

badsymbiote
Yes, yes, yes!!! Please?!?

"SILENCE, JESSIE. WE'RE NOT SURE WE WANT YOU BEGGING FOR STORIES FROM A MAN WHO WOULD CALL US A VILLAIN!"

Shut it, symbiote. I'm in charge here. Without me, there is no "us". And I'll decide who I beg, and for what.
I'd love it if you wrote one. If your other work is any indication, I think we'd all be in for a big treat. So, please consider it.

And I can't wait until Red sees that you've joined. Yay! She'll be ecstatic.

scibott
Our numbers are steadily increasing. My Yahoo! Group has twenty-one (21) members! I can't believe it.

Bad S, I was under the impression Rouge #2 came out the 18 of August.

fever red
Estatic doesn't cover it.
And I insist on being married in head-to-toe-red.
Mom, I haven't seen the Romero Remake of Dawn. Life got busy at me just then- I was opening a little ol' massage business back then. Kept saying, we'll see the Dead this weekend, I promise, but finally all my pals got wise and went without me. It isn't in the vid store yet, and the clerks are getting surlier every time I ask.
What I found cheifly justified the Night remake in the eighties was how it confronted you with sexist bigotry just as the orig did with racism, so now we have TWO NightOTLDead zombie films with serious social themes- and everybody knows, there's no better way to explore society than the living dead. Zombies are a prereq for serious film!
And serious fanfic, of course.
Say, Blaque Cell, I kind of anticipated Venom swinging to the rescue in SymHolocaust. Just how else could Spidey possibly get out of the frying pan? Its always V who ultimately quashes poor wittle Clete's fun. I hope you someday write more- but for now, I actually kind of like the open ending- it gives my imagination time to play more in your world.
See, Paola? I'm on topic. I am, I am.

fever red
We've got to send Blaque Cell alcohal- lots and lots of alcohal- if that's what helps him write.
A new CAUSE- getting him sloshed.
Perhaps a recipe for Brains Flambe with Chocolate Liqour?- your turn in the kitchen with Martha, Bad S.
Remember, if she's not "innocent," she's fair game for you, too.

badsymbiote
Oh, my> You're right. I added an extra week--All of those books will be out on the 18th. Thanks for noticing. Oooh--that means less than a week!
God, I'm happy to be wrong about that!!!! Thanks, scibott.
--Sometimes, I'm so woefully inept that it even surprises me.
Thanks again.

badsymbiote
Zombie movies AND cartoons. Another passion of mine. Animation never gets the credit it deserves as a form of cinema. The thing I love most about it is, just like fan-fic, you're only limited by your imagination. Hey--you and Blaque Cell are kind of like the hero and heroin from the "Night" remake. Except that he turns into a zombie at the end...

And, I guess to facilitate that Venom story happening, I'd be very open to getting Blaque Cell tanked. Whatever it takes. I'm highly motivated.

fever red
It's beer bong time.
Gagh! Teenage flashbacks!

fever red
Here's a question that proves I spend too much time entirely thinking my little symthoughts- could a sym's host get drunk or would the sym detox him/her?
Gotta go write. Blaque Cell has invigorated me.

badsymbiote
Well, yesterday afternoon, on my local news, a black bear broke into some Campers' cooler and drank about 36 Raniers. he got lit, and then passed out. When the bear "woke up" they had to lure it into a trap with, yep, you guessed it--beer. So, I suppose that a symbiote could get drunk.

Robo-Chocobo
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA.....................HA.

fever red
I heard that story too! That's what put it in my mind!

fever red
At the risk of sounding totally bisexual, how'd you like some hot mullet loving? I can show you where to find some.
Message on a women's restroom wall: for hot mullet lovin', call Eddie at 1-800-80'S-VENOM.

fever red
Now, what's the 411 on this fiction of which YOU spoke? And why would you be sending it to Fox and not to me?

Robo-Chocobo
HAhHAHAHAHahahaahHaAhAhAhAhAhAHAhAH*rocking back and forth*

so many mullets......the only person to ever look good in a mullet is

Solid Snake.

I think grey fox will back me up on that 1.

grey fox
yes true but dont solidus have one but fever red the fan fiction is a little crossover i have been writign action adventure and romance but the romance doesn,t really kick in till the end grey fox (as in the dude who saves snake ass from rex and destroy's the radome befoe gettign squished) is about to deliver the finishign blow to snake (during the boss battle with the ninja obviously fox is winning) when the ass emmerich uses an experimental machine to transport him to the newyork marvelverse he arrives in a alley to fins spiderman kicking the shit out of badsymbyote's character who i have described (by her picture that she drew) soon after helping her kick spiderman's ass and threatenign to chop him itno dogfood he find's himself alone and somehow en'd up in hell kitchen kicking ass the kingpin soon drag's him in and gives him an offer work for him as an asasin he agree's and soon find's bad symbyote agin but so does the kingpin who has stolen her symbyote leavign fox a near naked badsymbyoeand twnety gaurds (whom fox slaughters like just before the boss fight)they then set off to get bad symbyotes symbyote back there i have already sent my part to jessica and is waitign for her reply

badsymbiote
Because the two of us are writing it--so naturally, it's crude and rudimentary at best.

badsymbiote
I wrote it twice already!!! I think you're playing a prank on me. SERIOUSLY--you never got it?

Blaque Cell
Actually, I wanted to avoid that. I never liked it how Peter always needed Venom to save his butt whenever he fought Carnage. Also, I can think of no conceivable reason why Venom wouldn't turn right around and kill Peter afterward. As for Peter escaping his deadly situation, I actually started writing Chapter 8 earlier today, and half of the chapter is finished. He won't get out unscathed, but don't worry, he survives. Just gotta figure out how to end this chapter. Writer's block sucks.
As for getting me drunk, I prefer E&J with a blueberry blunt and some chicken wings. My creative juices always seem to flow when I injest said items.

fever red
I'll try that prescription; I'm wrestling with some editorial decisions myself. I don't have writer's block; I have editor's block.
I'm impressed that you don't intend to use Venom as the plot device, the dux ex machina (pardon, can't spell) for which Marvel employs him. You're right; he is too often the fellow jumping out of the cake, yelling, "Suprise! I'm here to save Spidey's @$$ and kick Kasady's!"
Yeah... surprise...
I hope Captain Payne survives, too. Guess it all depends on whether he put on a "red shirt" that morning.

Mom, I hear you...there are many, many things I've written that were only fun or experimental. So I assume, this is one of those "I could show you but then I'd have to kill you?" works of art?

kiekan
Honestly, I think its completly logical as to why Venom comes in to the fight all the time. As well as the reasoning behind why he doesn't kill good 'ol Pete.

You must take into consideration that Venom (Brock mainly, whom has convinced the Symbiote into his believing this) believes that he is the cause to Carnage's creation. OK, lets think, what does Carnage do? Simply goes around slaughtering people for the fun of it (litterally).

Venom on the other hand, tries to protect whom he dubbs innocent. Their goals contradict one another, causing the continuous battles that they've gone through to come about. Its simply the fact that Venom hears word of another Carnage rampage/killing spree and goes out to stop it. Generally (though, there are some exceptions as always) Spidey just happens to get there first, making it appear that Venom is 'saving him'.

As for why he doesn't just kill off Spidey. Well you have to think about what time period your talking about. There could be the truce in place (refer to Amazing Spider-man #375), or Venom actually appreciates the help he received through Spider-man. Many times, Venom cannot beat Carnage on his own (purly to the fact that Carnage is stronger in almost every way) and must have aid somewhere. This is usually done through Spider-man.

Though, there are also times when both Spidey and Venom win on their own without the other's aid. Some examples would be Venom: Carnage Unleashed (for Venom obviously), in which Spidey is not even mentioned. Also, on Spidey's behalf, Ben Reilly has to battle him mentally in the story 'Web of Carnage' (Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #410, Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #67, Spectacular Spider-Man #233) as well as his battle with Carnage/Carnage Cosmic in Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 1) #430 and #431.

FreakFest
Does anyone have a picture of the Venom/Wolverine combination?

fever red
These are good points, Kiekan- but in Blaque Cell's story, there simply hasn't been time for the news to travel to S.F.; and then V would have to make his way cross country- really, its just as reasonable for V not to show up until the action's already over- but NEVER do you see that in the comics.
That would be amusing.
V: "Sorry I'm late. What did I miss?"
Spidey: "The whole darn thing. He's back at Ravencroft since ten this morning."
V "Oh, dang- and now I have that long flight home."

badsymbiote
It's on my scan list--I'll bump it up.

Nice non-partisan playing of the field, kiekan. You always know how to put it just so without generalizing everything. Good concrete examples. And I'm surprised how often people are surprised by the fact that Venom has never killed Spidey. It's like Venom always talking about how he's planning on eating everyone's brains--it's just for show--except a couple of times, when he actually did acquire a "taste" for them. He needs Spidey as both an ally AND a scapegoat.
Like the one between Brock and his "other", the relationship between Venom and Spider-man is fairly complex.

Red--I wouldn't mind showing you the story that fox goaded me into writing, but it's a work in progress--you know.

Spiderman_RJ
the chocolate bar was not that fun..............and where is the cletus fanfic? the page of brock shrink only have his fic

badsymbiote
Maybe you didn't like it RJ, but you are neither female nor a Venom fan, so it wasn't written with you in mind.
If you ask Blaque Cell or Fever Red nicely, they MAY steer you toward Blaque Cell's sweet-ass Carnage story...

kiekan
Hey, hey..... I don't think it was only directed toward women..... I like chocolate too. Dang.... now I wish I had some, lol. Thanks for the compliment, though.

But yeah, I thought the whole pain munching thing from Venom: The Hunger was pretty killer. My only question is... why did it take so long for the cravings to kick in? Peter wore the Simbiote for quite a lengthy time and never had the urge to gobble up someone's brains....

-shrugs- maybe he just wasn't bonded long enough, er something.....

FreakFest
members . lycos . co . uk / ultimategallery / images / venom / venom . jpg

When did Venom gain electric powers? Did he briefly join with Electro? Or is this a merely a nice piece of art that has nothing to do with any comic?

badsymbiote
I know you don't have to be a woman to like it, but I'm sure I got alot more out of the story than you, even if you did enjoy it.

Kiekan--are you a Transformers fan?
The reason I ask is so I can provide an analogy that requires a familiarity with the episode that I'll mention. I think it happens late in the second season, after the creation of the dinobots.

All Transformers on Earth begin to run low on energy and malfunction (or something like that, I can't remember everything) --they will eventually shut down--essentially die, because they lack Cybertonium--an element found on Cybertron and installed in all of the Transformers, EXCEPT the Dinobots, who were created on Earth.
So, the Dinobots go to Cybertron on the Decepticon-built spacebridge to Iacon to get the necessary element to perpetuate the lives of all Transformers on Earth.
The analogy, of course, is to demonstrate that it takes time for certain needs to arise--as in the depletion of (and need for) Phenethylamine by the symbiote. That is the deficiency that caused Venom's hunger and urge for human sweetbreads. I doubt you'll find a more descriptive explanantion on this forum, so I hope it's good enough. big grin

Robo-Chocobo
*que the cool transformers theme*
dun dun, den dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

kiekan
Ahh yes, FreakFest, that'd be when Pike (a villain from the Image comics world, I beleive (could be wrong though)) bonds with a temporary spawn of the Venom Symbiote. It happens at the end of the two part cross over titled 'Spider-man and Backlash'. Which is just that, a cross over with Ben Reilly and Backlash as they team up to fight Venom and Pike (lol, I feel like I'm doing a commercial). Probably my all time favorite Spidey cross over, with some great art and killer action.

As for the Transforms thing, can't same I'm a huge fan or anything, but it's cool. Though, I rather dislike the newer series (the original and several of the Beast Wars series were awesome, though). But that analogy is perfect. Thanks a bunch.

Robo-Chocobo
I dont understand a thing you said except for the transformers part.

I liked beast wars and how it tied in with the old series. I also liked the old transformers. anyone remember the one before the minicons were introduced? thats what I thought. that one sucked. NOW GET ON TOPIC!!

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS COMIC YOUR MAKING US ANGRY PRESCIOUS!!! YOU WONT LIKE US WHEN WERE ANGRY!!(blatant matrix rip-off) IM CRANKY OH NO PAOLA IS GONNA GET ME!!!

badsymbiote
For you, darlin', it was my pleasure. wink

Robo-Chocobo
man Venom really must be drooling really hard over spidey.

badsymbiote
Nope, that's just me.

Blaque Cell
Those are very good points. It's just, I dunno, Spidey and Venom saving each other seems kind of cliche to me these days. As for Venom appreciating Spidey's help, it's a given. If it's after the "Hunger" storyline, I could say that Venom would be willing to help Peter because he saved Eddie's life (but then again, he also doomed him and the symbiote to live with cancer for the rest of their lives). If it's before that, then Eddie would absolutely hate Spidey for ruining his life, as well as for his ex-wife's suicide. It just seems kinda contradictory for Venom to see Spidey as an ally one moment and then want him dead the next. But, that's what makes Venom so complex, so I can appreciate it in a way.
I never did read Carnage Unleashed. I've been looking for it in the back issue bins, but can never seem to find it. And even though Spidey didn't need Venom to help him in the Cosmic Carnage story, he did need Silver Surfer. I'd rather have Spidey beat Carnage one on one, or at least attempt to, without having to be rescued. Let's remember, this is the man who took on the Juggernaut single-handedly. I have a good idea how I'll end this story, though. It won't involve any heroes saving Spidey's butt, though.

grey fox
no jessica i sent you my part it's where he saves your sorry ass and does a fort footj ump from your hotel

now if you will exscuse me i have to go slice off ocelot's hand

*noisesi n the background*

my hand ! stealth camoflaudge cant you even die right you were lucky well mett agin

who are you

im like oyu i have no name

*end background noises*

fever red
Reading assignment:
"And the Darkness binds us" by Dread, at superherohype.com.
3 stars and a hella lotta hot mullet lovin'.

Ghetto Goblin
woh woh WOH there lil' fella.

hey blaque cell, did you take someone else's avatar?

that is, or maybe was, feceman's avatar.

hmmmm, ... newbie.

fever red
Play nice- GG. Blaque Cell is an honored guest and author.
Now, will you tell your symbiote to stop humping random women's legs- or do we have to get the sonic guns out?

Robo-Chocobo
NOOOOOOOOO HOW WILL I TELL THEM APART. NOW I HAVE TO READ THE NAME

badsymbiote
laughing

Now, that was funny--even though it was at mine and Red's expense. But, I'm secure enough to be able to laugh about it.

Besides, Goblin, he hasn't been around long enough to even know Fece from Adam. I haven't seen him here for at least a couple of weeks, if I had to guess.
"SO BE NICE, OR WE'LL RIP YOUR FRIGGEN LARYNX OUT WITH OUR TEETH!"
Pardon my other...we get carried away sometimes.

Blaque Cell
I didn't know someone elese already had this avatar. I just got here three days ago. I already had this picture saved on my computer. No big deal, though. I got millions of other pictures to make an avatar out of.

grey fox
more andom mgs background noises by grey fox (that involve grey fox)

im a prisoner of death only you can free me

stop fox what about naomi she's hell bent on getting revenge for you

naomi...

(end various background noises)

Spiderman_RJ
the worse thing they donne to venom was to make him loose his memory and go after spiderman again, that sucks
they have nothing else to write so they dig the old things, vulture, shocker (who had abdicted the crime), octopus (who was dead), goblinn and norman (both dead), and all marvel unecessasry enconters, like spider and xman, the old first we fight then we ally into a common enemy, and FF and xman.marvel sucks..........marvel sucks
if all bad boys can come back ( thin on the romita administration who said no one would come back from death)
i wanna gwen to be a evil clone maker , who hated peter for killing her father and the one we saw dead to be a pupeteer, so we can see gwen back. DIE MARVEL DIEEEEEE

FreakFest
badsymbiote, could you please scan WolVenom soon? It is the only symbiote/human combination I am missing a picture of.

kiekan
I've got it covered.... This is the first page to show the character:

FreakFest
Thank you so very much kiekan!

urthstripe321
heheh that's pretty cool looking. Imagine if wolvie could control it? *Imagines*

grey fox
*eyes widen* bloody hell *pulls out bad symbotes family tree* OH MY GOD that thing is related to her !

grey fox
MY GOD i have just had a brilliatn ide what if the venom symbyote went to liquid snake liquids already unhinged (but not on the same level as kassidy) one of the 3 worlds greatest soldiers bonded to venom he would be nigh unstoppable

badsymbiote
Ditto. See? That's why I like having you around, kiekan. You take some of the picture request pressure off of me. And then there are your coherent posts of yours that I could mention as well. wink

Blaque Cell
True, but one stinger missile would obliterate him. Snake only has to get him in his sight for three seconds and he's gone.

badsymbiote
Oh, Blaque Cell--you changed your avatar because of what Goblin wrote? You shoudn't have done that. You didn't know, and the guy he spoke of (who uses it, too) is not unreasonable.
Well, at any rate, it was mighty nice of you to change it--shows that you're a good sport and all.
Goblin forgets that he was new once, too. And we were nice to him. You don't have to prove anything to any of us. You're Blaque Cell, damnit! That's good enough.

grey fox
OH MY GOD I HAVE JUST SEEN THE RESIDENT EVIL APOCLYPSE TRAILER IT IS DAMN GOOD

scibott
I will have to counter you there fox, reasons being:
1. They killed the Resident Evil name.
2. They turned it into an action movie, not survival horror.
3. They made Alice (Milla Jovovich) a super-human.
4. Paul W.S. Anderson is not directing it.
5. Has nothing to do with the story of Resident Evil.
6. They changed the name from Nemesis to Apocalypse
I can continue but, this is not the place.

I may have to move the dates of my schedule back somewhat, I am unsure currently.

Spiderman_RJ
actualy nemesis is still nemesis, but nemesis is the project so all hunter and other ugly bitchs are nemesis, true that not RE

kiekan
I beleive he is refering to the title of the movie, which was originally 'Resident Evil: Nemesis', though is now known as 'Resident Evil: Apocalypse'. It is true that the actual creature known as Nemesis is gonna be it (though, he looks a bit different..... alot shorter, lol), I don't know about any Hunters. From the trailer, it looks appears to have lots of Lickers, though.

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