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"Alien Vs Predator"

"AVP" is set in the year 2004, where a group of archaeologists spanning the world over are gathered by one Mr. Wayland, played by "Alien" staple, the obviously aging Lance Henriksen. After picking up an unusual heat pattern in the middle of the Antarctic, Wayland funds this group of up and coming scientists to aid his research.

The group of rag tag explorers delve deep, hundreds of feet under the surface of Antarctica, where they stumble upon what looks to be a Mayan/Aztec temple. In the hunter's backstory, Alien pods were actually brought to the temple by the Predators, and used as guinea pigs for the Predator youth to hunt, and gain experience, as part of their right of passage. Needless to say, it's payback time.

Going into the movie, soon after learning of it's PG-13 rating, I lost a lot of hope for the movie initially. What I got was 100 minutes of rock em,' sock 'em, Sci Fi eyecandy.

The acting, while not the draw of the movie, pushed the movie along quite nicely. It was reminiscent of the previous "Alien" movies; the typical "group exploration" plot. This time, no corny one-liners, no overacting, and they were equipped with the most primitive of weapons. It added a nice dose of realism that was lacking in the other 2 franchises respective sequels.

As for the CGI, I feared that like so many other newer Sci Fi flicks, men in suits had gone the way of the dinosaur. Not so, the new costume design of the Young Predator crew was fantastic, especially the updated oxygen masks. The Dog Aliens, thankfully, were just as I remembered them in "Alien 3." The overall special effects remained true to the original movies, which I appreciated. i.e. Predator's cloaking, the plasma cannon explosions, etc.)

Ahhhh. The "showdown." It's fair to say that the two species were evenly matched, which may surprise some of you. Of course, there is the issue of the 5 Predator youth undergoing their right of passage, and being green to hunting, as well as being subsequently outnumbered, thanks in part to the Alien Queen who was in status underground before being revived by electrocution, gearing up the Alien pod factory once again.

Surprisingly, there was a lot of dismemberment, gore, and elements of all out war in this flick, thanks to the respective creatures having acidic and green blood being somewhat exempt from the MPAA ratings system. Oh, of course, there was a ton of action, most of which was delivered in the 3rd act.

The movie even had some character development! Playing on Predator's creed of hunting for sport only, Sanaa Lathan, the lead character, in a tense scene where she's in an isolated corridor attempts to befriend the Predator youth by sacrificing one of their plasma cannons, in which Wayland had taken as a souvenir. In doing so, the Predator understood she meant no harm. The two were ambushed by an Alien, which she took out on her own, solidifying her "enemies enemy is my friend" approach. In turn, Predator expressed gratitude by making crude weapons for her from the Alien's remains.

Of course, anticipation coupled with set up in the first act of the movie kind of had me a little squirmy, knowing what I REALLY came to see the movie for. There were typical lulls in dialogue, as well a little tension stemming from a cast of virtual unknowns. All subsequent qualms and uneasiness faded away soon after I saw a gang of 3 Predators, an a Infared scan of the temple, and it's "surprise guests." There was a very "old school" feeling throughout this movie which patched up the bumps in the road, which are standard in Sci Fi cinema, as well as most summer blockbusters.

Overall, there's no need to recommend this to Alien and Predator fans. Your tickets were bought days in advance. Everyone else? If you're just looking for some more mindless summertime Sci Fi fun, I recommend you see "AVP," ASAP.

8/10

8/10? That's awesome, I've been somewhat excited for this movie, but also expecting it to suck. A positive review from you is quite uplifting. I'll definately go see it tonight.

Great Movie,I thought it was going to suck to but it turned out staying to the originals of both franchises.Leaving the Aliens spooky and mysterious at first,and letting the Predators have alot of action.

4/5

PG-13? cool, that means it's will be rated M in my country, for you see, if in your country it was R then here it would be R16, and I wouldn't be able to get into it since I'm underage, even WITH an adult.

so who won....

A couple of reviews that I have read, surprisingly favorable, says it has to be one of the most violent PG-13 rated movies of all time.

To which I give an astounding "Hell, yeah!".

Why dont you just "sneek in"?

Ca,Probaly

i think the movie looks dumb

Screew u all. Ill give this movie 10/10. The tralersd pics the hole dam thing looks cool.

What looks dumb what kind of bong r u on. This film looks like its going to be the movie this year. Well I think it will be. I saw the making of it on a dvd, the prediters are people in suits but not when thay take there mask of. The aliens are robots there 2 typps of face hugers differenrt typps of guns for the prediters and they even have swords, how can that be dumb

well that dosent mean much coming from a person with Orlando Bloom in thier sig

^



WO WO dude slow down.Movie of the year?Do you watch many movies? or are you just easily amused.Oh yeah and the stuff you saw was probaly on a Fox dvd.That is the crappiest making of the movie out there

The movies awesome but dont go giving it serious titles like "Movie of the Yeat" or a 10/10 unless you've seen it already.The film has its flaws

I can't wait to see the movie, i evenhave the Alien VS Predator desktop, were you can download from the site!

I give it a 8(.2)/10

Excellent action, great fights, and like stated, even some character development.

I must say though, the other Predators seemed to go too quick, as well as the humans. But the Queen was marvelous.

Yeah I felt the story and the characters death's where rushed because it was a 90 minutes flick but still good

WO WO dude slow down.Movie of the year?Do you watch many movies? or are you just easily amused.Oh yeah and the stuff you saw was probaly on a Fox dvd.That is the crappiest making of the movie out there

The movies awesome but dont go giving it serious titles like "Movie of the Yeat" or a 10/10 unless you've seen it already.The film has its floors





True. I was overreacting but she said it loked dumb. and it it was on a dvd.

Then you should've just said "It looks good"

I know it was on a dvd,probaly something from fox.It probaly had trailers of "The Day After Tomorrow","Man On Fire" or the making of "Dodgeball" am I right.The making of it is crap

Lets keep this limited to reviews, people. There is an "AVP" General Discussion thread in the Horror section.

Thanks.

Dude dont be like G.P just let us discuss what we want.It hard to just move your whole discussion to the horror forum

CA is right, this thread is only for reviews, as are all threads in the movie review section. If you have anything else to discuss, use the all purpose thread for whatever movie you want to discuss.

Anyways, I saw this movie tonight and was somewhat disapointed. I thought it was way to slow, nothing happened in the first 45 minutes really, which is too bad because it's a short movie. No one goes to see this movie for 45 minutes of storyline. I would have been more satisfied had there been no humans at all, and only Aliens and Predators. That also would have been more creative and ballsy, but oh well.

The plot was pretty much nonexistant. Predators hunt Aliens, that's all you need to know going into this movie, and that's all that's ever explained too us. Kinda wierd when the first half of the movie is all talking.

The effects were neat, it was nice to see them use robots for the Aliens as much as possible, rather then all CGI. Also, the fights were well done. But the cheese factor in teh movie is astounding. But, I shouldn't be surprised by that.

Anyway, I can't really recommend this flick unless you're a die hard Alien or Predator fan. If you do go see it, expect 45 mintues of generic story and cliche dialogue, followed by 45 minutes of action.

You think it was to slow?I thought it was too fast.They rushed us into this whole thing and didnt even give us much of a storyline or background on the characters

Well, considering it is MY THREAD TO BEGIN WITH, I figured maybe I would be the one to suggest how the thread is run?

Take the off topic conversations to the Horror forum, and lets try and get back on track.

I need to get this off my chest.....

How could they do this to Predator??? OMG the last 30 minutes of the film were absurd, lame, and has been done a thousand times in other films.

I mean come on......The Predator and that cheap actress running away from an explosion! That was stupid filmaking! ! This isn't the Predator from the classic film in which our beloved Governator (jk) was involved! Since when the Hell does the Predator needs the help of a human being to hunt his prey?

Onto the movie.......

....actually there isn't much to say, but this; Archeological team goes to Antartica to find an old pyramid, and the Aliens fight the Predators.

That's pretty much it.

The highlight of the film was of course the first fight between The predator and the Alien and the winner in that round was...
Aliens! Yaay! They rule! after that.....that was it.

As a mention earlier the downfall of the film were the last 30 mins in which The predator and the woman team up to fight the Alien That was totally lame!

Sorry for the caps but.....

IS SUPPOSE TO BE ALIENS VS. PREDATOR! NOT ALIENS VS. PREDATOR AND WOMAN. That pretty much KILL the movie.

This film gets an 2.2 out of 5.

The idea of Predator vs. Aliens is beyond cool....but the film FAIL to accomplish that.

I just got back from seeing AvP. I believe overall the movie was a success, but for less reasons than what made it a dissapointment for me. First i will start with the good.

Good.
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The creature and set design was amazing. Anderson really went all out to give the fans what we expected to see when it came to the aliens and predator. The action was both good and bad. When it was Good it was GOOD (unfortunately there wasnt that much good) Another thing i believe Anderson succeeded on was setting an atmosphere very remiscant of what made the original alien films so good, and that is the feeling of being closed in and trapped. Last but not least the best thign about the movie was the presence that the aliens and predators had on screen

BAD
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Now there are many bad aspects, but many i disregaurd because i understand that this was a fan film and wasnt meant for much more. However , I could not over look the lack of dialogue. Now i know that there really wouldnt have been much sense in introducing character depth to the humans seeing how they diddnt last long, but there was a large group of expeditioners and we only see about five of them and learn five of there names. I had no relationship with the characters and could care less what happend to them. The acting was poor. I know the characters were poorly written, But the acting was just as poor. There is a scene where a group of expeditioners are attacked by predators, They dont know what is attacking them, only that people are dying, then they get seperated and no one even acknowledges what just happend. The story was very rushed, it started out seeming to focus a great deal on the plot, but then about 40 minutes into the film we had nothing. Now on to the action, the action was good whenever you could tell what was going on. Now for the worst part. The film is called AvP. Where was all the fighting? There is only three battles between the two. Two of which are not even five minutes in length. Overall i believe it was a success because the people involved really cared and did give us a fun ride, but that is all it was. It seems Anderson was scared to take any risks. When i first heard the movie was 1 hour and 27 minutes i was like bewildered, but then i understood if it were any longer it would have been unbearable 5.5/10 ( just because i am such a fan of these two)

as wild dancer pointed out the last 30 minutes were absurd and have been done many times before in movies. These two franchises have been a staple for suspense and heart stopping endings. The last half hour of the film was taking the safe way out, or well more probable just a way to end a film that the writers had no idea how to end.

Sounds like you're hung up on the team-up. Would you prefer they stay in the pyramid and commit suicide? The reason the young Predator blew up the temple was because they were grossly outnumbered. I don't believe the Predator needed her help, per se, but after giving up the plasma cannon, showing Predator she posed no threat, he had his back turned, Sanaa Lathan speared the ambushing Alien. Two key factors that played up to the "enemy of my enemy is my ally" creedo, and what drove the last act of the movie. He just saw her as "one of the guys", especially after marking herself with her prey.

Besides, there is no comparing the endings of "AVP" and the original "Predator". Two totally different scenarios going on there.
I, for one, appreciated the character development in the Predator character, showing that they are much more primal than we'd think.



What dialogue and great acting are you looking for from a cast of nobodies in a summer movie geared towards a nominal audience? They spent the first 30 hour gabbing about their expedition. The whole expedition gimmick was nothing but a ploy to usher in the main plot of the movie to begin with, so caring for the characters was the least of our concerns. Alien and Predator fans go to see carnage, not compassion.

I don't see how the story was rushed at all, given as there was hardly a story to begin with. There's an unusual heat pattern, they spend the first 30 minutes talking about it, taking the trip there, and then they stumble upon the pyramid, which brings us to the 2nd act/plot, Alien vs Predator.
Was it that hard to comprehend? It was a swift movie, but rushed, no way. Anyone that had researched this movie knew what was going to happen.

Once again, I think there are alot of people expected way too much from a hit and miss director, a cast of virtual no name actors, and a paper thin plot. It was supposed to be a fun flick, hell, I loved it because I didn't expect anything to begin with.

By the way... exactly what in the end of "AVP" had been done before in movies? There were a few significant happenings in the end, a few of which were very unique, and I'd like some clarification.

Ive always known that about the Predator they not really mean beings.They kill humans for a sport and keep there skulls just like we would kill a lion and keep there skins.

I for one loved the movie. I loved how the Predators were defensless against the Aliens without their guns. The first two Predators that got taken out just showed u how powerful an alien is, and how young the predators were. I didnt really like that one Alien took out 2 predators That other predator was the greatest hunter, but then again, u saw how it was a younger one, for it got caught off guard by that face hugger. Ya, at the end when the PredAlien came out of his chest, that makes the possibility of a sequal very real

Don't take this the wrong way but you wrote:



To add to my review let me say that ending was waaaaay to predictable. Either 20 Century Fox doesn't learn about it's mistakes or they just don't know what the Hell they doing.

I loved the movie, it would of been prefect if the ending was a 'little' different

Yeah they should've had a big war..that would've been sweet

Has no one noticed that this movie goes against the ORIGINAL Predator storyline?

The Predator hunts humans, cause he can..he shouldn't give a shit if she's a fellow Alien killer. That's part of his job, TO HUNT HUMANS, just like part of his job in this movie is to wreck Aliens..

The fact that he teamed up with the girl was disgraceful to the Predator franchise. The Aliens were very bad-ass. But they made the Predators out to be a ***** race, they got there ass kicked for the most part except for the last one.. Despite what many said the matrix-like facehugger camera shots were cool, I thought and it didn't even feel like a matrix shot, it felt more like he was just trying to show how the facehuggers look and move.

It wasn't horrible but it was decent, nothing special. Had so much potential..but it was ruined. It's a shame.

4/10

The Predator didnt reall team up with the girl just didnt kill her because she opposed no threat to him,and it really doesnt disgrace either franchises.I think fans will happy,but theres always gonna be people out that are gonna find little mistakes in it to complain about those people just cant be pleased.

I never saw the lone Predator ever overcome by a facehugger, subsequently, couldn't predict that outcome. It was more or less Alien's way of getting the last punch in. If that were to act as an open ending to a sequel, it's a pathetic one, seeing as how one little chestburster doesn't stand a chance against a shipfull of elder Predators.

I'm only replying to other peoples reviews, which is perfectly alright. The "off topic" conversations I was looking to avoid were one line "It sucks" replies, and people flaming one another.



I didn't notice, because you're totally wrong.

Predator only engages in combat when provoked, which can be as little as someone brandishing a weapon in their general direction. That's why Alexa was unharmed after surrendering her firearm.. Furthurmore, after she took out that ambushing Alien Predator saw her as the closest thing to an ally as he had, and vice versa given EVERYONE ELSE WAS FRIGGIN' DEAD!

You guys must have not been paying attention to the movie close enough, becuase this is the 3rd time I've had to explain it, lol.

Re-watch the end of "Predator 2". After Danny Glover uses the Predator's razor disc against him, and defeats him fair and square, the Honor Council appeared and he dropped the disc, they left him alone, because he had won fair and square, and had no intention of fighting anyone else.

Predator, like Stormy already said, isn't some savage. They play within the rules of their own game. Hit me and I'll hit you back. Aliens, on the other hand, are looking to breed by any means necessary.

So, this was no "dishonor" to the Predator franchise. It's an expansion of character, which has probably been well documented in the 14 year history of this franchise.

I'm sorry if this qualifies as "discussion", but everyone's badmouthing the Yaujta (Predator) / Human relation. The truth is, the most important thing to Predator's is the hunt and HONOR. If she saved his life, it was his DUTY to protect or fight with her. Just would like to point that out. Notice how he didn't want to kill Weyland? Exactly.

Man, The predator race has teamed up with humans many a time to beat the aliens ass read some comics man

Like CA said dont think that the Predators are savages and think that they killed everybody they see without a reason.If you think that then you are seriouslly not going to like this movie,because so far the people that ive talked to didnt like the fact that thepredator teamed up with the human

Anyways Predator 2 sucked

I mean seriously, if that is why you dont like this movie because the predator teamed up witht the human, that is just great an utter bullshit. Anderson had nothing to go on when making this film, but as a fan He has read many alien vs predator books as i'm sure you all have right ?
where A female does infact combine forces with te predator in the classic original Aliens V.S predator comics which have sapwned many books. such as prey, and many others. If you diddnt like the movie because of that one little fact that was a great Shout out to the true alien V.S predator fans that Anderson knew what he was doing and that he was going to delivere. Then i just understand your mentality on what a good movie is. He even left open the possibility for a sequal , so if if all you true AvP fans want more mayhem and carnage you will go see the films a second and third time. I went into this movie wanting to like it so much that i found so many personal critiecs to not like it. This was my problem, now your problem is to go out and see this movie, tell your friends tose it, so we can have more of this aliens vs. predator great shit.

No more sequals just leave it the way it is.

Naw, we could do with an all out Earth war on the aliens, witht the assitance of the predator or as goes it the other way around.

Well, I like the idea of Earth going to hell in a handbasket, art imitating life, but.. in the Director's Cut of "Alien: Resurrection", when Ripley and Call jettison back to Earth, they find the scorched Earth there too. It would kinda throw a wrench in things to destroy Earth twice. Of course, only the people that saw the D.C. of "Alien: Resurrection" would know that, but that would still make for a huge contradiction.

Not if the films werent following the same story lines

No sequals period.

By the way Ca did you get my pm?

thats easy for you to say, but the die hard fans want aliens and predator sequals up the ass as long as they work, when they dont work stop making shit. We have waited years for this film to come out and it did, and it did what we wanted it to, so why not give us more of it?

I agree. We've waited much too long for this for it to stop now. Then again, the worst thing would be if they totally destroyed it, and that's why I'm a bit edgy.

i just saw it



very kickass

Because me personally am sick of sequals.So many good movies and horror movies get ruined by em.Its sad how they cant come up with anything new so they keep building on the same crap over and over again.Prequals,Remakes etc...

Besides there have been 4 Alien movies and 2 Predator movies and now AVP how much more do you guys need?

Well seeing how only two alien movies are really only worth mentioning, and that predator 2 was a near miss. I believe we are rightfull in wanting as many sequals as we can get to these bad ass characters. The simple fact is because they create Great action flicks that give us the best suspense in science fiction. If your not a fan like the die hards you just cant get it. yeah there are to many sequals and prequal bullshit,but this is one franchise that has earned it's dues not only by fan base, but through their impacts on science fiction and action films as we know them today. So yes if they can be done well and continued in the right mannor, i hope we see many more of these films . Stick to the writing, and the character essence and we will be good.

So your saying that even tho 2 aliens arent worth mentioning and predator 2 sucked and you still think the writers can do better?

I mean AvP was good but thinking that there gonna be able to pull if off again without it being redudant and stupid is more than just wishful thinking.

Yep, I'll work on some tonight.



Well, Aliens couldn't destroy the Earth twice is my point, especially if this is supposed to be a sequel/prequel, which it has to be, occuring in 2004. "Resurrection" is set in 2389.

Thanks CA

Once the writers realize its not gonna work there gonna make this crappy story trying to sqeez all there stuff in there without it affecting "Ressurection" and there gonna fail.The best everyone can hope for is that they realized theres no more to work with and just stop.I think they ended it well and that fans should just be happy with the 7 movies there got combined from both series

"Yeah but the action and the way they made the film was excellent.

The problem with story and the characters is a silly reason not to like the movie seeing as how theres almost never a horror movie with good characters and a story that hasnt been used before"


The action was merely okay. It wasn't anything new or exciting, it just took some hot action segments from other films, such as the matrix, and threw them in this film. The camerawork was very poor in this film, most of the scenes had very fast camera movement, so much so that I had trouble telling what exactly was going on.

As for the characters or story, this is important in every movie. The fact that both aspects were heavily flawed in this film is a huge problem.

Also, this is the only movie that went from being extremely slow the first half, and extremely rushed the second half. I don't know how they managed to make the film both rushed and slow.

Wait..I geuss the story was explained good but we needed to seee more of it in the characters and why the guys and team where doing this and thee backgrounds.

If you didnt like the camera work here you dont even want to see "The Bourne Supremacy"

I saw bourne supremecy, that had the same problems.

The camerawork was the problem for me.It looked like it was being handled by a toddler,and I was sitting in the second row from the screen

I've been owned in myh argument, lol.

I've only red 3 Aliens Vs. Predator comics unfortunately and I own them. But it never had any teaming up with so I was wrong about that..

And I guess you're right about the girl, but she had the Predators spear as well, couldn't that be considered armed? If not, shame. I still didn't like the movie..my favorite character is the Predator and I couldn't get into it feeling like half the movie it just got it's ass kicked, and 2 of them were gone directly in the beginning.

Yeah the fact that they kill two at the beginningsucked but hey minor plots holes,no reason for disliking the movie

Love this movie. Yeah there were plotholes but I thought the story was great. The setup was good, but I was kind of expenting more from the Predators. : Hated that two Predators were taken out so quickly and ending the hunt. Sucks how there wasn't much of a hunt at all.
However, I did like that the hero Predator looked like the original Predators and not that new looking skull-masked one which was overly bulked. Made the movie more enjoyable.

Alien Vs. Predator 2 should follow the Capcom game storyline. It should be Dutch and great, great, great, great...grandmother Ripley battling there way into a major American city (D.C., New York, etc.) to track down the hive and destroy the queen. And as the U.S. miliary forces try to quarantine the entire city, troops move in and rescue the remaining citizens in one massive Exodus. And because there are humans still in the city, nuking the city would not be an option, also cause radiation to a major city would leave it unusable for years. As everyone on their squad are killed and they're cornered (Ducth and great...grandmother Ripley), a bombardment of plasma energy blast incinerate the Aliens and two Predators - elder/skilled/hunter/warrior/best of there species - reveal themself, offering their assistance in removing the preys their ancestors had introduce to the planet. Then just like the video game - the four fight their way into the seized city and kick some f#cken Alien ass. That's the best set up for Alien Vs. Predator 2. It's not original but still a great plot for the sequel. And I'll admit that they're plotholes in this (like how the Aliens end up in a populated American city), but someone can come up with something.

Either way if there is a sequal the Aliens better win.

I think the writers intention was to make us(the audience) worry about what was gonna happen to the Predator now that his 2 partners where gonemake us worry and not know how he was gonna make it out of there,but they didnt pull it off well.

Just saw it today. It was a good movie. thumbup

Did they leave room for a sequel?

Yeah..unfortunatly

ya what did you guys think of the ending, if you havent already disscused this.

im getting it on dvd tomorrow i cant wait

Why get it on dvd when you could go to the theaters?Just asking im all for illegal activity

I'd wait and get the uncut version when it comes out. By the way it was a pretty good movie.

Still i would take a theater experience for a movie i am mildly interested over the DvD. the whole DvD uncut R version is still just a myth at this point anyway.

I think she was talking about an illegal dvd or are you guys talking about something else?

And uncut version would be nice tho

no, yeah igot that. I was saying why would you watch a bootleg with crappy quality than experience it in a theater.

bootleg movies are vert bad

There ok,but id tottally watch this one at the cinema

I just saw this movie today too and I like it. I plan to buy the DVD when it comes out.

ive got it i think its good the only bad thing is the battlings not that great

I saw it tonight for free, the special effects were great, the story sucked, and they made it way to hollywood with the woman helping the Predator.


*******SPOILERS**********

At the end when she was kneeling over the dying predator after the big fight with the mother Alien, I was waiting for the big dying kiss scene between her and the predator, it was just so cheesey. The only good thing the move did was that it opened up a whole new possibility of the new race of Alien/Predator, that's a sweet ass alien.


*********End of Spoilers********************






To me the movie totally killed all that was said in the first Predator film. It was told that they only come in the hottest of years and they came in the jungle, not every 100 years and in Antarctica like in the movie. Lastly does it seem kind of odd that the Predators could have the same technology 4,000 years ago as they did at at the current time. Don't you think they would've made atleast some advancements?

Where in the first movie was it said they only "come in the hottest of years". Aside from that, where did you read they had been around for 4,000 years?

I really wanna know, so I can better understand what you're getting at.

You know the latin girl that they capture, she said that in the villages they found men skinned alive or even worse, and it only happened in the hottest years and that the women said crazy things, forgot what they called the Predators. . And about the 4,000 years things, they showed them with the ancient civilization like the aztecs, egyptians, etc. and the scientists thought it was maybe the first civilization, which would mean probably a little under 3,000 years ago.

Hey getting off topic but, on location you say you're Minnesota bound, you movin there or something? I just moved there last week, great state.

Oh yeah. Anna told Dutch about coming across the men that "looked like butchered" (lol).

They must have abandoned that as early as "Predator 2", though, since L.A. is always hot. However, the Aztecs/Mayans existed in the 16th century, only about 500 years ago, which is A LOT more plausible than 4,000 years. There were Aztec symbols, as well as hieroglyphics, which would lead me to believe that the Predators just stumbled upon the temple.

BTW, I used to live in Brooklyn Park, my girlfriend was born in Robbinsdale, and we're movin' back to Coon Rapids/Blaine Oct 1st.

But the so called experts thought that it was the first civilization on earth, meaning more around 4,000 years ago, and that they taught the humans how to build, meaning the humans built the temples after they came there.


yeah, I moved to the Jordan, Prior Lake area, really lovin it.

I watched alien vs predator,and wath to say then "disapointment"
especialy the end,comeone,just leaving place for next one,good action parts of the movie and effects are good but rest f...... s..t .

the alien that comes out of that preditor is awesome

As dumb as it was to have an ending like that just to leave it open for a sequel, an alien/predator mix would be unstoppable. I can just see what the sequel would be, the aliens and predator join together to stop the new alien/predator race.

I could give a shit less what would be in the sequal, as long as the aliens and Pred designs were the orginals. We get some heavy action driven by the foul mouths of some Marines who just like to make shit dead. Granted this should have been the movie, but i was happy with the flick and entertained. Anderson didnt shit all over the stories and creatures everyone knew. He stayed true to every detail to both species.

Are they leaving room for a sequel? usually they would do that on a movie like this

Agh i cant delete this post

i cant wait for the next one

I think a sequel would be great and yeah a Predalien could survived, and even take out a few elder preds while he's roaming about the ship. Think of the pred's massive strength combined with the aliens speed, plus it would be ubersmart. And have hands that could grip weapons and have a tail, so it be nearly unstoppable! Of course, would there be any aliens in the sequel seeing as how the queen is miles and miles beneath the ocean?

Have I posted that it's probably the worst movie I've ever seen? If not it definately was. I mean so many plot holes. If the predators were fighting Aliens in the past why the hell would they be hunting humans in the first it's not like they're harder.

because they are hunters of the universe. why wouldnt humans pose more of a threat than Aliens? Besides,what the hell does that have to do with AvP?

because the way they portrayed the Predators and told their story in AvP totally contridicted what was said in the first one.

how so man?

It was told in the first one that they only come in the hottest of years and they came in the jungle, not every 100 years and in Antarctica like in the movie. Plus they hunted the humans for sport, they did not rule over them and teach them how to build.

i myself thought that the movie was extremely predictable. it was obvious who was going to win...and the ending was obvious too.

This film looks kick ass.

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the alien that comes out of that preditor is awesome

As dumb as it was to have an ending like that just to leave it open for a sequel, an alien/predator mix would be unstoppable. I can just see what the sequel would be, the aliens and predator join together to stop the new alien/predator race.

That ending is stupid. How can there be an Alien/Predator hybrid? This can only happen if they were genetically engineered like the Alien/Human hybrid in Alien Ressurection. Otherwise infecting a Predator is like infecting a human, what you get is an ordinary Alien not some hybrid.

Vim I think a sequel would be great and yeah a Predalien could survived, and even take out a few elder preds while he's roaming about the ship. Think of the pred's massive strength combined with the aliens speed, plus it would be ubersmart. And have hands that could grip weapons and have a tail, so it be nearly unstoppable! Of course, would there be any aliens in the sequel seeing as how the queen is miles and miles beneath the ocean?

It won't have much intellegence since intellegence is learned and not hereditary. And like stressed, infecting a Predator is like infecting a human: the result is a regular Alien. But if we have to go the hybrid route, it's so dumb how the elders would not atleast have scanned the body for any Alien infection. Still, an Alien/Predator running around probably get ****ed up by the first elder it runs into - let's hope (for the sake of the Predator's franchise reputation and especially an Elder Predator).

dude you obviously have no knowledge on the alien or predator. So please do not embarass yourself by trying to point out obvious flaws that are heavily explained in the world of alien and predator. The form of an alien depends on what host is gestating the egg. The alien does not act on independant intelligence or thought. It acts on instinct and a psychic link to the hive.

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dude you obviously have no knowledge on the alien or predator. So please do not embarass yourself by trying to point out obvious flaws that are heavily explained in the world of alien and predator. The form of an alien depends on what host is gestating the egg. The alien does not act on independant intelligence or thought. It acts on instinct and a psychic link to the hive.

dude is that so? That thing that came out at the end contradicts what the Alien Vs. Predator game showed. After you kill that mad Predator, they show a regular Alien sticking out of the Predator's body. Yeah they didn't base it on the game, but that's still a good example. Hell, it took longer for the Alien to pop of the Predator's body than it did the humans. It also took a while before an Alien popped out of a human's body in the Alien movies. Stupid embarassing yourself ragesRemorse...cause your knowledge is shitty.

LOL, yeah my knowledge is shitty. You are the one who doesnt even know how the alien gestating and host process works. You are using a video game that inroduced the predalien to give your argument validity.Wait, i am wrong. I think it may have been the comic series AvP prey. that introduced a Pred alien. Eigther way i know the video game surely elaborated on it. In the comics and books. It takes a longer period of time for the Alien to mature inside it's host when it's structure and science is more complex. the human body is complex to our standards, but when a face hugger inpregnates, a predator, EArthly animals, and other beings from around the Universe who's structures are far more complex than the humans, it takes time to harvest inside. Besides whenever an alien gestates from a host, the hive remembers the process so it will not take as long to produce an alien from an egg next time that host is inpregnated.

you really need to stop arguing with me about the aliens and predator. Especially when it is about shit you claim that is impossible, when it has happend and been explained in detail through out the universe of alien and predator. another thing about the movie dealing with the speed of growth of the aliens. This was explained in scenes that were cut from the film. The predators gave the queen growth hormones. Or so Anderson says. If he is just blowing smoke, then that is somthing that was overlooked, but it would still take longer for an alien to grow within a pred than a human.

I also have no idea how you can say my knowledge on the alien is predator is shitty, when it comes from comics, movies, books and games, not to mention a life long infatuation.

Where does it say that Predator bodies are more complex? Just cause their from another planet they're body is more complex than ours?

Well it has been said that the gestating process takes longer for more complex body structures. Seeing how it always takes a while for an alien to harvest within a predator i just assumed. Not like this is a big god damn deal.

I don't know how anyone can consider this movie good. It was horrible, it might actually be worst then horrible. It was Badorrible,Badong.

no it wasnt that bad. that black chik is a badorrible actress though.

Dunno if you've gotten a reply, but...

The jungle thing with Predator has nothing to do with this. Those are actual hunters, lone Predators, coming to hunt. In fact, I'd go as far as saying the same Predator comes each time, Earth is like his hunting ground. In AvP, young Predators came to become real Hunters. The young ones and the other have nothing to do with each other.

As for the building thing, they did all that much much longer ago than you must think. Once they we're done, they left and only THEN did they start coming back (maybe) to hunt humans. Cruel? Yes, but hell, these are fictional outerspace characters.

I was quite dissapointed with this movie. They took one truly amazing series (Alien) and one pretty amazing series (Predator) and moulded them into a large chuck of faeces. Also, one quesion, Why would people going on an expedition have mahine guns with them!?!?

Why would they need machine guns? It's an expedition. Bad enough that if guns were going to be used that they might damage ancient relics, what happens when machine guns are used? They were there to excavate and preserve, not to destroy.

#1 summer movie disappointment of 2004. I was really looking forward to this one. I'll never forget the groan from the audience at the end. It was like a collective "What the hell was that?". The writers probably spent a whole fifteen minutes on the story. Oh well, I guess we'll get'em next time on the "Classic Movie Team-ups".

I have not seen this film, it just came out today but it looks made.

they might have needed machine guns to kill all those polar bears and seals in antartica. This movie was lame!

Much, Much better then i thought it ws gonna be. It got such bad media, but this actually had a plot and extremely good action.
easy 4/5

Good movie could of been more seens with the alien kicken ass but I enjoyed it,
4/5 I addvise u to see this movie if you don like sience fiction
rated M15+

Alien Vs. Predator is a lot better than the second, who's wit me?