Bride shoulda died?

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Ronnie Van Zant
Am I the only one who after watchin Vol. 2 thinks that the bride deserved what Bill meant to give her? Personally I think that she had it comin and that Bill and the Deadly Viper assasination squad were in the right. But then again I also held a grudge after she killed GoGo, so maybe its just me.

Whad yall think?

<<Solo>>
Know how big of an idiot your sounding like right now?

Bill tried to assassin her only because she ran away from him because she wanted her daughter to have a nice life, and for some freaking reason you think she deserved to die for that. I don't think so.

roundisfunny
Bill didn't see it that way, though. He saw it as her stealing his (their) child (at least, that's what he claimed).

Now...he told Beatrix that he just started out looking for the people he thought killed her, and when he found that she had deserted him and was marrying another, he went apesh*t. However, just before he pulled the trigger, he found out that it was his baby. And what does he do? Does he call an ambulance and try to save the child? No. He leaves BB in the womb, and the comatose mother lies on the floor of the chapel for an undetermined length of time until the sheriff realizes she's alive.

Somehow, the baby is saved, and somehow further, Bill is able to take her to South America, where she grows up apparently happy, healthy and well-adjusted.

So...even if Beatrix had all this in mind, she couldn't deny that BB had had a pretty good upbringing up to that point. She is admitting under the truth serum that she wouldn't have been happy as "Mrs. Plimpton, record store employee", so why should she make herself miserable by taking on that role for life (while simultaneously robbing BB of her only parent up to that point? That would HAVE to be pretty traumatic for a kid that age)?

Beatrix, before the fighting began, should have just said, "Bill, I'm sorry...I can see that you're raising her just fine, and I'd like to let bygones be bygones. I've killed enough, and I can come to terms with your trying to kill me for taking your unborn child and running away. Can we have joint custody?" She should also be grateful that Bill saved the child at all (eventually), much less raised her.

Finally, we never saw BB whining about wanting to go home to her mansion and her Daddy while she sat in that crummy motel room. Bill obviously didn't expect to lose the fight, or he would've said something to BB like "You and Mommy might be hurriedly leaving the mansion and hitting the road in the middle of the night, in which case you'll never see me again. Sweet dreams."

Also, what was in the suitcase?

Bierbommetje
I did feel sorry for Bill when he died.

But I would have felt a lot worse of it was your standard "Live happily ever after" hollywood type ending.

And Kill Bill is a very cool title and a film called Kill Bill in which Bill isnt even killed is just ridiculous.

And the briefcase contains the souls of all of the DiVAS, you can see it glowing as Bea gets up from her chair after killing Bill. That could be a sign of Bill's soul going into the suitcase. You have to look very carefully, cause its only on screen for about a sec.

WindDancer
Errr.... you saying that it was the Bride's fault? Naaah!!! Bill deserve to die. He was a victim of his own wickedness. He deserve to die.

Bierbommetje
I like the sound of that (as in, not the sentence, but in the context).

SaTsuJiN
Sorry for her wanting to lead a normal life? she didnt want her daughter up in all that blood shed.. bill was afraid of beatrix even though he didnt say it. Thats why he was always 2 steps ahead of her. Thats why he was so "Sweet", as he called it, when she arrived at the house. There would have been no way she would have tried to erase the whole thing and let bygones be bygones, she walked through hell to get there and she was going to finish it one way or the other. Besides.. what fun would it have been if they accepted join custody? blink

roundisfunny
It would have been a twist, like in "From Dusk 'Till Dawn". Remember, too, that her motivation throughout both films was to kill Bill and the DiVAS, not to find and rescue her daughter. Once she saw that BB was alive and in a good situation, she could have at least tried to patch things up with Bill.

BB Kiddo
Suitcase?????? umm explain please lol.
email me or something....

roundisfunny
Sorry, I meant briefcase. It was meant as a little self-depricating dig for those of us who occasionally over-analyze QT's films.

I'm definitely going to take another look at Vol. 2 tonight, though, and look for that briefcase on the table.

Wicked_Wiccan
I am glad she didnt die so there might be vol.3... but it would have been cool to have the bride die then have her daughter try and avenge her death by trying to "kill bill", but also have vernita's daughter want to avenge her moms death by trying to kill beatrix's daughter

Yassin
briefcase on a table??? no way i missed that!!!

Phoenix
She so should have died! she annoyed me SO MUCH!

Ronnie Van Zant
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Phoenix
big grin

Yassin
Short: YES and NO...the people who are a victim of being cheated will say BILL and mostly women who their babies mean the world for them will say Beatrix...that's an assumption,but i'm too tired to type anymore after my "Deadly Viper assassination theories". Byeee

SaTsuJiN
well technically he 'stole' her daughter and tried to use it as blackmail at the very last moment. She sorta faltered her will to go on after seeing her daughter but she definately had to lay out her final ass kickin'

QT can also do a spinoff between vernita greens daughter / bb and beatrix if he really wanted to... sounds like a good fightin time to me O_o
*doorbell rings* *opens it* *fist comes through door* angel

ragesRemorse
the bride died like four time through out the film. I dont think she needed to die considering that.

Ronnie Van Zant
ok, WTF

tabby999
well you live by the sword you die by the sword, i guess bill had accepted that

Yassin
Indeed,it's a warrior thing...But i was kind of disappointed when i saw the deleted scene...only minutes??? COME ON...and the fight wasn't all that,but yeah ...

SaTsuJiN
lol the deleted scene woulda been hilarious if they put it into the movie.. but it didnt really tie in with anything so I guess they made the right choice

Ronnie Van Zant
yea plus the black guy was horrible with the lines

Bierbommetje
That was brilliant

And the acting is hilarious. I love the Australian accent big grin

roundisfunny
That was good. It took me back twenty years, when I used to watch "Kung Fu Theater" on USA Network every Sunday afternoon. That scene was the ultimate cheesiness tribute (but yeah, it would have probably interrupted the flow, wherever they had stuck it).

And remember...Bill may have lived by the sword, but he died by the PALM.

EDIT: I looked again, but I didn't see a glow OR a briefcase when Bea stands up. Where on screen is it?

Bierbommetje
You guys ARE watching the Japanese cut?

Yassin
Japanese version different then the european? (or american..)

Bierbommetje
Dudes, are you guys paralysed from the waist down?

Cause im pulling your legs laughing

Yassin
Zeer grappig man!!! wink

Bierbommetje
Bedankt smile

Heb de Japanse versie nog niet gezien, dus wie weet wink

Yassin
De Japanse versie heeft bepaalde cutscenes die de originele versie niet heeft,zoals Sofie haar andere arm die eraf wordt gehakt en het gevecht in de house of bleu leaves in kleur,etc..je mist dus niet veelsmile

Bierbommetje
Ik heb Japanse versie Vol1 op mn comp

ownt idd smile

Ik bedoelde Vol2 Japanse versie
Heb net gelezen dat er 1 extra "scene" in zit. De rit naar Esteban is iets langer en je krijgt iets meer van de hoeren van Esteban te zien

Niet wereldschokkend als je het mij vraagt smile

buck came2 f**k
yea i kinfa wanted her to die aswell but i live in the knowledge that Vernita's greens daughter might get revenge. but what will the films be called Kill the Kiddo's

PS. i wanted GoGo to win that fight.

Ronnie Van Zant
join the millions

Bierbommetje
So you people would be happy to not see the confrontation between Elle, Budd, Bill and the Bride?

Ronnie Van Zant
if it meant that go go won then yes, happily

roundisfunny
We may still see a confrontation between the Bride and Yuki Yubari, Gogo's sister. Maybe that's how the Bride will meet her end in ten or fifteen years.

buck came2 f**k
who the hell is Yuki Yubari is she a Japanese movie star or somthin

Ronnie Van Zant
the character was for kou shibasaki and was supposed to be in Vol. 1, but kou couldnt sign the contract because of some other shit

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