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Who wins?

This has been discussed to great lengths before. Actually I believe several times.
Anyways, there are threads on this that have great arguments from both sides. They can be found using the search function.

yeah I thought they may have been made before but I haven't seen one in ages and thought what the heck.

This has been done numerous times. And Batman wins due to his gadgets that he can use to throw off DD's senses.

Without the gadgets this could go either way.

Batman with out his gadgets then.

Batman still. Batman not only has better fighting skills, but his suit will provide some protection for him in this fight.

BTW, does DD have his billy-clubs, or not?

Nah, batman doesn't have his gadgets so it's only fair DD doesn't have his clubs.

DD. He's likely faster and will be able to predict moves because of the senses. He's more agile also.

^ Then Batman definitely wins.

lol, your KMC name says it all. I'm guessin your a batman fan.

Originally posted by brainchild81
DD. He's likely faster and will be able to predict moves because of the senses. He's more agile also.

Batman is a better fighter than DD. One time DD detected Spiderman's punch and he still got nailed with it. My point is he can predict moves but that doesn't mean he won't get hit. Also, Batman is no slouch in the agility department either. Because Batman gets his high-tech suit, that should give protection against DD anyway.

Spidey hit him because of the Spidey speed. Batman on his best day is nowhere near as fast as Spidey on his worst day. Batman isn't a slouch in ANY department, but DD will know about the suit because of his senses. He'll go after his chin and any joints/weak spots that the suit may have.

Originally posted by steverules
lol, your KMC name says it all. I'm guessin your a batman fan.

A Batman FAN, not FANBOY.

Yeah, I know.

Originally posted by steverules
Yeah, I know.

Just makin' sure.

Batman would win this due to sonics which would blare DD's eardrums enough for batman to KO him in about 0.234453 seconds

Originally posted by braz
Batman would win this due to sonics which would blare DD's eardrums enough for batman to KO him in about 0.234453 seconds

It's a fist fight between the two of them....

no gadgets no billy clubs....

Pretty much even fight..............IMO its a stalemate......................

o yea, haha im stupid....errrm well in that case i dont really know, it would be really close because batman is def the better fighter and has armor as well, but DD has his supersenses which would probably counter most of batmans blows...but if batman was allowed to go all out like this is bloodlust, i still think id say batman, cuz its been known to see bruce kicking down trees n throwing guys through brick walls like in year one, so one punch could probably send DD's brains flying out the back of his skull

^

Originally posted by braz
o yea, haha im stupid....errrm well in that case i dont really know, it would be really close because batman is def the better fighter and has armor as well, but DD has his supersenses which would probably counter most of batmans blows...but if batman was allowed to go all out like this is bloodlust, i still think id say batman, cuz its been known to see bruce kicking down trees n throwing guys through brick walls like in year one, so one punch could probably send DD's brains flying out the back of his skull This is bloodlust. Those senses will allow DD to avoid most of Bats attacks completely. Any attacks Bats does land will be rolled with. DD will put a hurtin' on Bats.

^ Quite doubtful.

If somehow DD gained his sight back and lost his senses, I'd say Bats would win 10/10. Unfortunately for Batman. DD has the senses. Bats is fighting a guy that knocks bullets out of the air. DD's one of the best bullet timers out there(along w/Taskmaster, Batgirl & a few others) Bats has very little chance against DD w/out gadgets or PIS.

Originally posted by brainchild81
This is bloodlust. Those senses will allow DD to avoid most of Bats attacks completely. Any attacks Bats does land will be rolled with. DD will put a hurtin' on Bats. \


so ur saying despite batmans armor which could stop some of DD's punchez/kicks/w/e & let batman counter it and better fighting skills, that batman wouldnt be able to land just ONE punch on DD which could potentially kill him because of his super senses?

hmmm....

highly unlikely IMO

^

Originally posted by braz
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so ur saying despite batmans armor which could stop some of DD's punchez/kicks/w/e & let batman counter it and better fighting skills, that batman wouldnt be able to land just ONE punch on DD which could potentially kill him because of his super senses?

hmmm....

highly unlikely IMO Maybe you don't know how good DD is @ dodging and rolling with attacks because of his SUPER senses. DD wins by way of palm strike

Brainchild, take into consideration that whenever the Kingpin fights DD, he always manages to get some hits in on him. You're going to sit there, and tell me that that fatass is faster than Batman and Batman would never even get ONE hit on him?

no im not completely sure, but c'mon hes still only human, batman would land at least ONE punch on Daredevil, there's no way hes that quick, or else he could kick spidermans a$$(minus spideys superhuman strength)

Originally posted by batdude123
Brainchild, take into consideration that whenever the Kingpin fights DD, he always manages to get some hits in on him. You're going to sit there, and tell me that that fatass is faster than Batman and Batman would never even get ONE hit on him?

exactly.

Batman beats DD.

Originally posted by braz
exactly.

Thanks for the backup.

no prob man...that was just a good logical standpoint to take, i dunno y i didnt think of that...cuz if kingpin can touch DD, batman def can

Originally posted by batdude123
Brainchild, take into consideration that whenever the Kingpin fights DD, he always manages to get some hits in on him. You're going to sit there, and tell me that that fatass is faster than Batman and Batman would never even get ONE hit on him? Ever notice how everybody who fights Kingpin is always surprised @ how fast he is? There's a LOT more muscle there than you know. According to the 90s animated series, Kingpin was less than 10% bodyfat. I'm not sure what his stats are in comics, but he's never been written as slow or weak. Dude swings around couches with no problem, & he's taken bullets without the aid of armor. He's hit DD, Cap and Spidey. Respect Kingpin. He's a regular human that fights metas with no gadgets or protection. I think he hits Spidey for story purposes though. We take the heroes @ their best for these threads. DD will be landing attacks way before Batman does. Bats will get hits in, just not good ones. How do you guys think Bats would fare if they were wearing UFC attire?

^ Yup, pretty much.

*(I was talking to Braz)

Originally posted by brainchild81
Ever notice how everybody who fights Kingpin is always surprised @ how fast he is? There's a LOT more muscle there than you know. According to the 90s animated series, Kingpin was less than 10% bodyfat. I'm not sure what his stats are in comics, but he's never been written as slow or weak. Dude swings around couches with no problem, & he's taken bullets without the aid of armor. He's hit DD, Cap and Spidey. Respect Kingpin. He's a regular human that fights metas with no gadgets or protection. I think he hits Spidey for story purposes though. We take the heroes @ their best for these threads. DD will be landing attacks way before Batman does. Bats will get hits in, just not good ones. How do you guys think Bats would fare if they were wearing UFC attire?

I still think that Batman could take DD anyway. DD is a great fighter with senses and all, yes, yes I get it BLAH BLAH BLAH! Batman is the MUCH better of the two fighters here. Batman is a better fighter than Elektra as well and Elektra has been shown to take down DD.

Originally posted by braz
no im not completely sure, but c'mon hes still only human, batman would land at least ONE punch on Daredevil, there's no way hes that quick, or else he could kick spidermans a$$(minus spideys superhuman strength) He can be that quick & Spidey'd still be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Bats will get hits in,

then he wins, remember because hes been shown in the comics to be able to punch through walls and kick down trees

Originally posted by batdude123
I still think that Batman could take DD anyway. DD is a great fighter with senses and all, yes, yes I get it BLAH BLAH BLAH! Batman is the MUCH better of the two fighters here. Batman is a better fighter than Elektra as well and Elektra has been shown to take down DD. Was that pure h2h? If not, that's a bad example.

Originally posted by braz
then he wins, remember because hes been shown in the comics to be able to punch through walls and kick down trees

THANK YOU! And he's also been able to break people's ribs easily and also f*ck up their internal organs with ONE punch to the stomach.

Alright, I gotta go. I'll be back in about an hour. Then we can discuss this some more brainchild.

Originally posted by braz
then he wins, remember because hes been shown in the comics to be able to punch through walls and kick down trees Maybe you should read the rest of the statement you quoted. DD will roll w/those hits same as he was doing w/Spidey's(Spidey's faster than Bats could ever hope to be even though he wasn't going all out.) Bats has more NATURAL skill than DD. DD is a meta( UNNATURAL SKILL) because of the senses, which he combines with his skill. That MORE than makes up for any difference in skill. Walls & trees don't hit back. The guy getting palmstruck is Batman. The guy doing it is DD

Originally posted by batdude123
Alright, I gotta go. I'll be back in about an hour. Then we can discuss this some more brainchild. See ya when ya get back if I'm still here.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Maybe you should read the rest of the statement you quoted. DD will roll w/those hits same as he was doing w/Spidey's

spiderman was proabably holding back cuz peter and matt are like friends right?(correct me if im wrong) just like batman and superman, supes could squish batman to absolutely nothing easily, but he doesnt want to so he lets batman kick his ass because clark and bruce are friends...same situation, and what do u mean by he can 'roll with those hits'? regardless if hes rolling or not, hes going to be taking them and if tries to block with his arm when batmans in a chi ninja trance, DD's arms gunna get broken! and what makes u think batman couldnt perform a 'palmstrike' as well?

^Pretty much. Batman's a WAY more skilled fighter and the best DD could ever hope for is to dodge one of his attacks. Any of DD trying to block Batman, and Batman's gonna brake his arm. I've seen Batman take down Bane h2h before for crying out loud. DD, albeit tough, cannot and will not beat Batman in straight h2h. Batman is too much of a brawler/ninja/effective fighter for DD. Give him his billy clubs back and don't give Batman his gadgets back, and I say that DD takes it, otherwise DD is going down pretty hard.

BATMAN KICKS DD ASS PRETTY BAD. END OF STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by braz
then he wins, remember because hes been shown in the comics to be able to punch through walls and kick down trees
And DD's been shown to take blows from Spider-man, who's much stronger than Bats and has shown to break steel without much effort; and this was against a pissed-off Spider-Man who thought Daredevil was a crook and was trying to take him down.

Originally posted by Hit and Run
And DD's been shown to take blows from Spider-man, who's much stronger than Bats and has shown to break steel without much effort; and this was against a pissed-off Spider-Man who thought Daredevil was a crook and was trying to take him down.

batman has taken on superman before and won....superman would squish spiderman like a....well a little spider

The Batman, the man without fear will learn what real fear is.

Nah. He'll show Batman that "scare tactics" don't work on everybody. Originally posted by braz
spiderman was proabably holding back cuz peter and matt are like friends right?(correct me if im wrong) just like batman and superman, supes could squish batman to absolutely nothing easily, but he doesnt want to so he lets batman kick his ass because clark and bruce are friends...same situation, and what do u mean by he can 'roll with those hits'? regardless if hes rolling or not, hes going to be taking them and if tries to block with his arm when batmans in a chi ninja trance, DD's arms gunna get broken! and what makes u think batman couldnt perform a 'palmstrike' as well? Rolling with an attack is moving in the direction the attack is designed to send you anyway. It's used to lessen the impact. Supes once rolled with a Batman punch to keep Bats from hurting himself. Because DD can hear the tendons in Batman's arm flex a certain way, DD can tell when Bats is about to swing. DD is better @ rolling with punches than most because of his senses. It's almost as good as the Spidey sense. Batman is human and thus can't do the same. DD is better @ dodging than any human could ever hope to be. Batman can do palm strikes easy, just not to someone like DD. Bats needs gadgets to beat someone like DD. In a comic, you'd likely see a draw or Bats winning because of Batman's much higher popularity. Here, Bats is getting FUBARed by a guy who'll be one step ahead the whole time. Batman can lose people.

okok, but still i think batman would get at least one or two punches in somehow...i mean, hes mastered 127 different forms of martial arts which makes him a very unpredictable opponent, even to someone like Daredevil

DD is in the top 4 martial artists in marvel. He's been able to go toe to toe with captain america, Mr Hyde, The Hulk, and Namor and at least hold them off if not beat them.
That's like Batman taking on superman with no gadgets. Bottom line, it may be a prolonged fight, but daredevil will win.

Ditto. But then the fanboys would take to the streets. Do we really want that?Originally posted by braz
okok, but still i think batman would get at least one or two punches in somehow...i mean, hes mastered 127 different forms of martial arts which makes him a very unpredictable opponent, even to someone like Daredevil Nah it honestly won't. Unless one of those styles allows him to hurt people without moving. Batman's h2h is great, but he's not the absolute best. Not even in DC. What I like about Bats is that he's good @ pretty much everything. Doesn't make him the best @ everything. I think he may be the best @ Detective work. There are some who'd own him in a pure h2h scrap though. DD's one of them

Daredevil 6/10.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Ditto. But then the fanboys would take to the streets. Do we really want that? Nah it honestly won't. Unless one of those styles allows him to hurt people without moving. Batman's h2h is great, but he's not the absolute best. Not even in DC. What I like about Bats is that he's good @ pretty much everything. Doesn't make him the best @ everything. I think he may be the best @ Detective work. There are some who'd own him in a pure h2h scrap though. DD's one of them

only because of his heightened senses, batmans a waay more advaced fighter than DD...ive heard people say bats is like a 7 in fighting, while DD's merely a 5, with his billy club too...and w/e this is just ur opinion and no1's right no1's wrong its just what we think and i have an opinion too, but mine is that batman would get some hits in one way or another

blah...my bad accidental freepost

Originally posted by braz
only because of his heightened senses, batmans a waay more advaced fighter than DD...ive heard people say bats is like a 7 in fighting, while DD's merely a 5, with his billy club too...and w/e this is just ur opinion and i have an opinion too, but mine is that batman would get some hits in one way or another

^ Exactly.

If Bats were ranked in Marvel, he would most likely be a 7. Marvels stats discredit Daredevil. He should at least be a 6, yet hes ranked as 5. Thats why Marvel stats dont hold much validity.

PS: Theres no doubts that Bats would get hits on DD. They just probably wouldnt be landed more than Daredevils hits. Probably less effective as well.

Originally posted by braz
only because of his heightened senses, batmans a waay more advaced fighter than DD...ive heard people say bats is like a 7 in fighting, while DD's merely a 5, with his billy club too...and w/e this is just ur opinion and no1's right no1's wrong its just what we think and i have an opinion too, but mine is that batman would get some hits in one way or another Now we're getting somewhere. I do think Bats knows a good deal more Martial Arts than DD. "Only because of his heightened senses" is pretty much right(But he wouldn't be DD without them). DD has fully incorporated them into his fighting style though. He's a beast. Bats will likely get hits in, just not good ones.

Originally posted by braz
batman has taken on superman before and won....superman would squish spiderman like a....well a little spider

cough, cough bullsh#@.
I sense you are a um fanboy. Right?
I sense your emotion as well.

Fighting ability isn't everything. For spiderman can beat Cap. Spiderman's fighting ability is a 4 and cap's a 7.
So it boils down to other abilities. DD's sense powers definitely outweighs batman's fighting ability. Many comics are written with PIS. And people used them as proof. Again, DD can sense the weakness in bat's suit and thus form attacks based off that info. DD also has a unique fighting form. Something batman has not saw before. If DD can intercept bullets without it being PIS then I don't see batman laying a hand on DD without it being PIS. This will definitely be a great fight though. I would probably pay everything I own just to see it. I believe DD takes this due to his ability to sense bat's attacks and sense a weakness through bat's suit. Intercepting bullets got to count for something. Right?