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1. No rings

2. With rings

Who wins?

I can see him winning with rings, but Hulk makes Hank a pile of scraps and throws him into the sun!

round 1 cyborb superman BFR

round 2 cyborb superman

Stalemate.

Hank in both.

Cyborg Superman, and I don't think its even close.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Stalemate.

Surely you jest. Superman would wreck Hulk easily. Hank's not nearly as nice.

Hank wins both. Only way I see him losing is if he decides to go brawl.

WWH

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Hank wins both. Only way I see him losing is if he decides to go brawl.

I don't see Hulk being at a level where he's a threat period, including a brawl. Unless we ignore the massive strength difference. And let's not get into the speed or Hank's ability to shapeshift/amp.

I'm a bit rusty on Hank's strength feats. True he has kryptonian DNA and all that shit, but whats his best strength feat?

WWH ftw...

WWH stomps the sh** out of Hank. Trickster, your post are funny.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I'm a bit rusty on Hank's strength feats. True he has kryptonian DNA and all that shit, but whats his best strength feat? I'm pretty sure he's slugged it out with GLs and Superman a few times. I'm quite sure he punked Eradicator.

Just like I'm quite sure Hulk has slugged it out with Thor, Surfer, Genis, Zom Strange, Extremis Ironman, Gladiator, Sentry, and the list goes on.

You are underestimating him buddy.

Yeah, except the only difference is that whenever those guys fight the Hulk they conveniently "forget" every power they have except super strength.

WW Hulk wins.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Yeah, except the only difference is that whenever those guys fight the Hulk they conveniently "forget" every power they have except super strength.

Yup, CIS caused by PIS.

How fun of a fight would be if Sentry, SS or Thor actually stopped ****ing around and use all or most of their powers. Hulk would get wreck and his fanboys wouldnt like it.

Slugging it out with Supes and green lanters is impressive and all but I am under the impression that he is not as strong or durable as Supes. At least the kryptonian powers are not up to Supes level. Where Hank shines is in the techno powers that pretty much make him immortal and 1 mean versatile mofo.

Hank wouldnt hold back.

You can't just punch Henshaw to death. destroy his body and he'll just make a new one...

One thing I'll say about Pak is that we all knew when the Hulk fought Zeus it was going to be a slug fest, even though Zeus is a skyfather. At least he gave us a reason (however trite it was) for why Zeus "forgot" all his powers in his fight with the Hulk. Its like he came out and admitted how lame it is for the Hulk to fight a god who does nothing but throw punches.

Counts as a win on KMC doesnt it?, but the same thing wouldnt count for Sentry/Voidtry.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Counts as a win on KMC doesnt it?, but the same thing wouldnt count for Sentry/Voidtry.

Only if the body can't reform quickly enough.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't just punch Henshaw to death. destroy his body and he'll just make a new one...

True. Can he make a new body in a world without any technology? Would lack of technology make his inevitable return take longer? Because if it does then it could count as a win....I think.

Either way WWH gets smacked down.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Yeah, except the only difference is that whenever those guys fight the Hulk they conveniently "forget" every power they have except super strength.

Except each and every last one of them used their powers against Hulk but he still brushed through it (minus Thor).

If Sentry and Gladiator used their full powers on the Hulk, the Hulk wouldn't have even landed a single punch on them. Strange would have "snuffed out the Hulk's mortal flame with the twitch of his finger" and thor would have teleported him into the center of the Sun. Hell, I've even seen thor come out and throw his hammer away and duke it out with the Hulk. Could it get anymore obvious?

the only way the hulk hangs with those guys is in his normal "handicapped matches".

WWH drops him long enough to count as a win.

Thor is awesome like that. Dude just drops the advantage and goes for the H2H.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
If Sentry and Gladiator used their full powers on the Hulk, the Hulk wouldn't have even landed a single punch on them. Strange would have "snuffed out the Hulk's mortal flame with the twitch of his finger" and thor would have teleported him into the center of the Sun. Hell, I've even seen thor come out and throw his hammer away and duke it out with the Hulk. Could it get anymore obvious?

the only way the hulk hangs with those guys is in his normal "handicapped matches".

How consistent is it for Gladiator and Sentry to fight at untouchable "fan made up" speeds?

Let's also not forget that WWH also have super speed as well.

Sentry, Gladiator, along with Henshaw (who doesn't have a combat speed feat under his belt) doesn't fight anything like the flash. They are brick like characters.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH drops him long enough to count as a win.

That is if Hank does the stupid thing and slugs it out with WWH.

I don't see WWH beating Hank if he is using his techno powers/speed. His stock drops to .00001 when Hank has the rings.

Though now that I think about it has Hank done anything with the rings?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
That is if Hank does the stupid thing and slugs it out with WWH.



I think the Hulk might have an actual "make his opponent into a retard power".

Originally posted by carver9


Let's also not forget that WWH also have super speed as well.



LOL. let me guess, just like North Star is he faster than Superman and the Flash, right?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
That is if Hank does the stupid thing and slugs it out with WWH.

I don't see WWH beating Hank if he is using his techno powers/speed. His stock drops to .00001 when Hank has the rings.

Though now that I think about it has Hank done anything with the rings?

Show me Hank fighting in the fashion that you claim.

Hank can use his powers but its not going to get him anywhere.

The rings isn't stopping Hulk.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
LOL. let me guess, just like North Star is he faster than Superman and the Flash, right?

Let me guess, you posted something superior to North star punching a thousand times in a second.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
LOL. let me guess, just like North Star is he faster than Superman and the Flash, right?

Of course, hes Marvel.

Hank Henshaw.

Without rings, he still has plenty of weaponry and versatility on hand in addition to his physical strength which is Superman level. Depending on where the fight is taking place, Hank can use his technopathy to turn the entire environment against Hulk.

With rings, all ten of them, WWH would get his ass handed to him.

The only way Hank loses is if the "Hulk effect" comes into play and Hank insists on straight up brawling with him while forgetting his other powers and deliberately choosing not to reform and repair himself.

WWH for the healthy majority.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I don't see Hulk being at a level where he's a threat period, including a brawl. Unless we ignore the massive strength difference. And let's not get into the speed or Hank's ability to shapeshift/amp. you'd be alright if you didn't say there was a massive strength difference in favor of henshaw.

Cyborg Superman takes this wtih or without rings. His power is on another level and I am a Marvel guy saying this.

I dont think Henshaw is on another level hes not that much tougher than regular Supetman minus the rings. With rings its a stomp though

Originally posted by Zack Fair
True. Can he make a new body in a world without any technology? Would lack of technology make his inevitable return take longer? Because if it does then it could count as a win....I think.

Either way WWH gets smacked down. He's got matter manipulation enough to make organic and technological components. Hell, he's duplicated his standard kryptonian/cyborg body from a bunch of toys. Normal earth toys. He's also speed duplicated himself. It's easily within his abilities to have a few copies around and swarm Hulk. Can he do it without tech around him? It's pretty rare for there to be absolutely nothing. Hell, he can do it with metals, I think.

As for the strength discrepancy, to even be able to slug it out with Superman automatically puts him above the Hulk. I have never seen a single incarnation of Hulk that could slug it out with Superman and win.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As for the strength discrepancy, to even be able to slug it out with Superman automatically puts him above the Hulk. I have never seen a single incarnation of Hulk that could slug it out with Superman and win. Uh oh. Shit storm activate

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's got matter manipulation enough to make organic and technological components. Hell, he's duplicated his standard kryptonian/cyborg body from a bunch of toys. Normal earth toys. He's also speed duplicated himself. It's easily within his abilities to have a few copies around and swarm Hulk. Can he do it without tech around him? It's pretty rare for there to be absolutely nothing. Hell, he can do it with metals, I think.

As for the strength discrepancy, to even be able to slug it out with Superman automatically puts him above the Hulk. I have never seen a single incarnation of Hulk that could slug it out with Superman and win.

Hulk held together a planet TWICE the size of earth.

Your turn.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk held together a planet TWICE the size of earth.

Your turn. I think you're mixing strength feats...

Was Sakaar ever said to be twice as big as Earth?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Uh oh. Shit storm activate

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk held together a planet TWICE the size of earth.

Your turn.

It's been activated.

How big is Skaar? Cause I'm sure I can find something to top that.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
How big is Skaar? Cause I'm sure I can find something to top that. Guessing he's about 7 feet, 700-800 pounds.

Oh right. doh

What's the name of the planet from Planet Hulk. Isn't it Skaar? Or is that just his kid?

where was it stated sakaar was twice as big as earth or was that made up?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Oh right. doh

What's the name of the planet from Planet Hulk. Isn't it Skaar? Or is that just his kid? Hulk Planet #3 is the acceptable term

Some call it Sakaar

Ok then. thanks Bran. How big is Sakaar?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok then. thanks Bran. How big is Sakaar? Galactus ate it and couldn't eat Earth, so applying Carver rules, it must be smaller than Earth.

I thought it blew because of the ship exploding? I really haven't read Hulk in awhile, so I honestly don't know if Galactus ate it or not.

How durable is Hank compared to Clark? Isn't he less durable?


offtopic: 21,000 punches a minute = only 350 punches a second.

renske


Still, Supes being able to rebuild a city with his bare hands in seconds >>>> punching 1000 times a second.

Hank's raw durability is roughly around Superman's probably a little bit less. But...........he won't die. And if you can't kill him in one shot, he just heals. He can rebuild himself from scratch.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk held together a planet TWICE the size of earth.

Your turn.

Try to post a feat where he doesn't have help.

Originally posted by Valtot
where was it stated sakaar was twice as big as earth or was that made up?

It was stated but can't remember during what issue. I THINK it was stated during the time he was landing on the planet.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Try to post a feat where he doesn't have help.

Two different feats.

I'm referring to a "weakened" WWH holding planet skaar together with strength alone.

Mageddon. I win.

Originally posted by carver9
Two different feats.

I'm referring to a "weakened" WWH holdong planet skaar together with strength alone.

That's the one I was talking about.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mageddon. I win. That's already been deconstructed.

Bull. How do you lowball that one?

^ Better question is: how do you exaggerate that one in the first place?

He's powering a giant gear that powers a machine bigger than a galaxy. What more do you want?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Better question is: how do you exaggerate that one in the first place?

Dodger.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's powering a giant gear that powers a machine bigger than a galaxy. What more do you want?

And its 300x the size of the earth (at least). But there's many other strength feats as well. lifting one half of a book with infinite pages, shattering time and space with punches, etc.

Mageddon was visible from lightyears away. And it was enormous then.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's powering a giant gear that powers a machine bigger than a galaxy. What more do you want? You obviously didn't know how big the gears actually were (perplexing as you have a frame of reference in the single panel you actually seem them in). You obviously don't know how big Mageddon actually is (galaxy-size, lolwut?). You disregard that Mageddon was also powered by the anti-sun core... since, y'know... Mageddon was pretty much deactivated when Superman disconnects it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's powering a giant gear that powers a machine bigger than a galaxy. What more do you want?

And you have humans on the left and right aiding him in pulling the wheels so I guess they are stronger than Hulk as well?

Mageddon was stated to using him as a power source. And it was visible from light years. It's face was bigger than earth, easily.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
And its 300x the size of the earth (at least). But there's many other strength feats as well. lifting one half of a book with infinite pages, shattering time and space with punches, etc.

Let's not forget that Superman energy powered the wheels, not his physical might.

Originally posted by carver9
And you have humans on the left and right aiding him in pulling the wheels so I guess they are stronger than Hulk as well?

What does that have to do with anything?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
powering a giant gear

Originally posted by -Pr-
What does that have to do with anything?

That before Superman was even chained to the machine they were already there pulling it. He was basically the battery, not the wheels.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's powering a giant gear that powers a machine bigger than a galaxy. What more do you want?

I want a legitament strength feat... that's what I want.

Originally posted by carver9
Let's not forget that Superman energy powered the wheels, not his physical might.

No. Superman was in chains turning the wheels. He absorbed the energy of mageddon in order to defeat it. It was physical strength unless you can prove otherwise.

Also, henshaw wins with or without the rings.

Originally posted by carver9
That before Superman was even chained to the machine they were already there pulling it. He was basically the battery, not the wheels.

Even a billion humans would still be doing less work than one Superman, so it doesn't really matter.

henshaw FTW, I don't see WWHulk capable of putting hank down permanently. the fight might take a while but hank take this with or without rings.

Hank.

Originally posted by carver9
I want a legitament strength feat... that's what I want.

Didnt superman jumpstart krypton in The Return to krypton arc

Originally posted by paisapower
Didnt superman jumpstart krypton in The Return to krypton arc

And how many tons was that?

WWH while weakened one handed a mountain and tossed it like a grape.

Now let me show you what you are doing...


Sentry held the cosmic cube.

With that said, even though we have no type of measurement for the feat, Sentry is stronger than Hulk since he held the cosmic cube. Superman is stronger than Hulk since he pulled an engine (don't know how much weight or tons that is... bbbbuuuuutttt).

Ironman armor is stronger than Hulk because he substained the energy and power of the Odin force.

So even though Hulk has tossed a mountain with ease, held a planet together that was twice the size of earth, mere footsteps was strong enough to destroy a planet, strong enough to hold up a mountain that was twice the size of our biggest mountain, strong enough to punch an asteroid twice the size of earth and destroy it, strong enough to rip through primary adamantium with nothing but brute strength...etc, etc

Sentry is stronger than him because he held the cosmic cube, Superman is stronger than him because he pulled an engine, Ironman is stronger than him because he contain and manifested the Odin force into his armor.

Do you not see the difference in these feats?

Originally posted by carver9
And how many tons was that?

WWH while weakened one handed a mountain and tossed it like a grape.

Now let me show you what you are doing...


Sentry held the cosmic cube.

With that said, even though we have no type of measurement for the feat, Sentry is stronger than Hulk since he held the cosmic cube. Superman is stronger than Hulk since he pulled an engine (don't know how much weight or tons that is... bbbbuuuuutttt).

Ironman armor is stronger than Hulk because he substained the energy and power of the Odin force.

So even though Hulk has tossed a mountain with ease, held a planet together that was twice the size of earth, mere footsteps was strong enough to destroy a planet, strong enough to hold up a mountain that was twice the size of our biggest mountain, strong enough to punch an asteroid twice the size of earth and destroy it, strong enough to rip through primary adamantium with nothing but brute strength...etc, etc

Sentry is stronger than him because he held the cosmic cube, Superman is stronger than him because he pulled an engine, Ironman is stronger than him because he contain and manifested the Odin force into his armor.

Do you not see the difference in these feats?

What engine are you talking about ? Im talking about him moving the planet befor e the engines kicked in

...............That's it. I'm done with this thread. **** off. headshotkmc