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Without being Hulked-out, of course. Just All-Father Thor.

Who wins?

Dude, we won't even give Thor a single win out of ten against the likes of Night Trasher and Prowler on this forum.

Go ask that question on Dambo's YouTube channel.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Dude, we won't even give Thor a single win out of ten against the likes of Night Trasher and Prowler on this forum.

Go ask that question on Dambo's YouTube channel.
Current Thor is hulk-uped though

Imagine, if you will, a Thor that isn't Hulked out.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Current Thor is hulk-uped though

From the OP:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
From the OP:
Didn't see this. I guess I was really hoping Thor has a chance here. I read too many Dambo's YouTube channel comments

Thanos wrecks him again.

Thor stomps.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor stomps.

Not that he needs it, but Thanos is in possession of the Reality gem. The score between these two is 3-0 I believe.

Why is he nerfed in the Hulk vs Thor fight? Explain please.

Originally posted by carver9
Why is he nerfed in the Hulk vs Thor fight? Explain please.

Because they have to limit Thor in order for Hulk to compete

Well, he did one shot Celestial iron man, something I would put past regular Thor

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Well, he did one shot Celestial iron man, something I would put past regular Thor

I assume that's a typo, but yeah, I wouldn't put it past normal Thor, especially with his high ends and Tony's track record with 'prepped' armours.

The excuses for Thor is hilarious. The guy is fighting against a Hulk that is said to be the most dangerous thing the entire Avengers lineup will ever face and he's doing good solo.

Originally posted by carver9
The excuses for Thor is hilarious. The guy is fighting against a Hulk that is said to be the most dangerous thing the entire Avengers lineup will ever face and he's doing good solo.

This you?

Originally posted by carver9
So I looked at the quote you posted where I mentioned juggling suns, lmao, I brought that up to discredit ABHI scan of using a statement as a ft. Every post I posted (along with others) to counteract ABHI post were all statements. I want you to show me where I use this as a ft for Hulk in a debate.
Originally posted by carver9
My point of mentioning those fts was due to people trying to use statements as concrete evidence

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think using statements is a way of debating.

LoL

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This you?





Ok, I stand corrected Darksaint. He has somehow found a way to both gaslight,strawman and red herring hisself simultaneously.

Gave him respect before his fight with Hulk...

Originally posted by carver9
Thor without hammer - mid Herald to bottom high High Herald
Thor with hammer - epitome of high Herald tier and can reach Trans tier levels under stress
Thor with Odin Force - Easily Skyfather

Heck, here I even said he's more powerful than Hulk...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=671226&highlight=%22Thor+vs+Hulk%22

🤔

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok, I stand corrected Darksaint. He has somehow found a way to both gaslight,strawman and red herring hisself simultaneously.

Then when called out on it, he will simply ignore it and hope people forget about it so he can do it all over again.

Rinse, repeat.

Anyway, I would side with Thanos here. Thor has the power, sure, not denying that, but hard to see an answer for TP.

Assuming of course, that we're using current. I know when he fought the Black Winter he fought the TP off, so debate if that's enough when stacked against Thanos' TP feats.

I'm not using statements as concrete evidence. 🤷🏾‍♂️

The fts are there to support those statements.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anyway, I would side with Thanos here. Thor has the power, sure, not denying that, but hard to see an answer for TP.

Assuming of course, that we're using current. I know when he fought the Black Winter he fought the TP off, so debate if that's enough when stacked against Thanos' TP feats.

When was Thanos last showing?

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not using statements as concrete evidence. 🤷🏾‍♂️

The fts are there to support those statements.

Like screaming into space, amirite? And fighting Skyfather level ghosts (lol)?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
When was Thanos last showing?

Last I saw, was him fighting alongside King Thanos.

Sorry it's canon it just doesn't occur in the present. It occurs in the past like in the 90s. Particularly after the Ron's old run

I feel like Cates went out of his way to make the Black Winter as vague as possible. I still think the BW is literally just Thor if that wasn't already stated in the comic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus powerless Odin (as he has given all of his power to Thor) broke into Starship Hulk, and made Banner his b1tch. I wager a fully powered Thanos is at least as powerful as a powerless Odin, won't you?

Yes absolutely.

@Stoic...

Ironman already built an armor that was taking on Celestial before getting this armor and now he is powering an armor that is opening portals to different universes and shooting out blasts more powerful than suns. Let's not try to downplay here.

Yes, Immortal Hulk fought and crushed Thor but that wasn't full Odin Force powered Thor and Odin outright said Thor will have access to ALL of his skyfather power.

Tell me what better showings Thor had than almost dropping a Celestial level being in a single hit? Also, you do know Thor previous showings still sticks with him, right? When you were taking Superman side not too long ago, were you using Supes from one story or were you using his collected frs from all of his books?

Answer this, which Superman is stronger? The one that doughty DOS Doomsday or the one that recently fought Damage?

Your argument is all over the place.

Thor wasn't as powerful as he is now when he fought Immortal Hulk. Please stop saying that and also, you're using losing to Hulk as a low showing instead of it being a power scaling for Hulk? Thanos beating Anni Hulk, is this a low showing for Anni Hulk or a good showing for Thanos? Thanos vs Tyrant, is that a low showing for Tyrant or a high showing for Thanos? Thanos vs Surfer. Is that a low showing for Surfer or a high showing for Thanos?

Also, again, the armor Tony is wearing was taking on 2 Celestials and Winning and its not like the armor isn't displaying power here. Outright said on panel that Hulk is being hit by exploding suns and it was outright wrecking Celestial skin when doing it.

So your entire argument is Hulk losing to Thanos due to TP, something that he rarely use?

Lol @Carver avoiding the Hulk/Thanos thread.

How did I avoid the thread when I posted in there? Are you saying I'm avoiding your story telling post that you don't even follow?

Carver is right Stoic. Thor only had a portion of the OF when he faced Immortal Hulk. Now I'm pretty sure at the time Carver was saying he had the whole OF but that's neither here nor there.

Problem with the Banner of War fights is there all inconclusive and riddled with context. Thor has been fighting like a brick not a skyfather, Tony's prepped armors have historically been trash, Thor one shot that celestial armor. Odin can't be powerless based on the showings. Hulk doesn't seem to be fighting anything other than Banner's control and he's obviously under another control from some outside source. It's a weird comic

Originally posted by carver9
How did I avoid the thread when I posted in there? Are you saying I'm avoiding your story telling post that you don't even follow?

Wut. Are you ok?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Carver is right Stoic. Thor only had a portion of the OF when he faced Immortal Hulk. Now I'm pretty sure at the time Carver was saying he had the whole OF but that's neither here nor there.

Problem with the Banner of War fights is there all inconclusive and riddled with context. Thor has been fighting like a brick not a skyfather, Tony's prepped armors have historically been trash, Thor one shot that celestial armor. Odin can't be powerless based on the showings. Hulk doesn't seem to be fighting anything other than Banner's control and he's obviously under another control from some outside source. It's a weird comic

Thor used his lightning and it did absolutely nothing. Which attack from Thor are you thinking will stop Hulk?

Originally posted by carver9
Thor used his lightning and it did absolutely nothing. Which attack from Thor are you thinking will stop Hulk?

You think the Thor that's facing Hulk is the same caliber Thor that faced Mjolgog?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You think the Thor that's facing Hulk is the same caliber Thor that faced Mjolgog?

More powerful. Why would anyone think different? Are there different versions of Thors in each issue? Is the Immortal Hulk that fought the Avengers different than the Immortal Hulk that Loki fought? When did we start debating like this

@Stoic...

The Galactus that Thanos killed was an alternate reality Galactus. 🤦🏿 Everyone you named was alternate reality versions (sigh). Younger Thanos beating a character that took on alt characters isn't as great as you're trying to make it and most of those fights took place off panel.

Thought the cosmic cube wasn't at full power? Also, I am going to pull a you. Prove that Lord Marvell was using the full extent of the cosmic cube and please don't share fts.

Why is Thir being written different than the Odin that fought Thanos? Did you not see the Odin and Thanos fight. All Odin did was blast and go physical with Thanos. The same shit Thor is doing against Hulk. Lol. Yes, Thor is as powerful as Odin was, said on panel.

Anni Hulk used a weapon to kill the heros, not his own power. Also, are we talking about the same Annihulk that Hulk was able to damage with one hit, something Thanos couldn't do.

Why is that statement hyperbole about Hulk tanking sun level power?

Originally posted by carver9
More powerful. Why would anyone think different? Are there different versions of Thors in each issue? Is the Immortal Hulk that fought the Avengers different than the Immortal Hulk that Loki fought? When did we start debating like this

We always take into (or at least those of us who can actually debate) account a characters mindset or motivations during a fight. There's a difference between a wolverine who fights with his claws sheathed and one who's feral for example. It's the same Wolverine but it's also not. Thor that fought Mjolgog used his terra powers from Gaea. Iirc he used the bifrost he did esoteric shit other than punching, bashing a fan lightning. If I did a versus. Using that version in that issue against the one that's been facing Hulk the it'd be no question who would win. It all boils down to context. You're hindered by your obsession with power sets

Originally posted by Sin I AM
We always take into (or at least those of us who can actually debate) account a characters mindset or motivations during a fight. There's a difference between a wolverine who fights with his claws sheathed and one who's feral for example. It's the same Wolverine but it's also not. Thor that fought Mjolgog used his terra powers from Gaea. Iirc he used the bifrost he did esoteric shit other than punching, bashing a fan lightning. If I did a versus. Using that version in that issue against the one that's been facing Hulk the it'd be no question who would win. It all boils down to context. You're hindered by your obsession with power sets

He's/Thor admitted that he isn't holding back in this fight. Surfer held back against Thanos as well since he did nothing but blast and fly the entire time? No exotic abilities? Did Surfer hold back? Superman held back against Doomsday too, huh? Did he even use ice breath during the fight? He didn't go all exotic so I'm guessing he held back.

Surfer vs Thor. Surfer didn't use intangibility, black holes, matter manipulation, energy absorption, none of that against Thor. Yep, he held back. Ironman held back against Thor as well. No shields, herald slicing blades, invisibility. Thor didn't fight full power Sentry or The Void either. They didn't matter manipulate, use super speed, teleportation. Just punched and kicked. Martian Manhunter holds back in all of his fights. He doesn't use half of his powers in combat. Let's throw all of his fights out of the window.

I've seen a lot of weird debating here but I've never seen anyone debate like this. Dont throw this type of debating style on most people here on KMC because it's foolish.

Originally posted by carver9
He's/Thor admitted that he isn't holding back in this fight. Surfer held back against Thanos as well since he did nothing but blast and fly the entire time? No exotic abilities? Did Surfer hold back? Superman held back against Doomsday too, huh? Did he even use ice breath during the fight? He didn't go all exotic so I'm guessing he held back.

Surfer vs Thor. Surfer didn't use intangibility, black holes, matter manipulation, energy absorption, none of that against Thor. Yep, he held back. Ironman held back against Thor as well. No shields, herald slicing blades, invisibility. Thor didn't fight full power Sentry or The Void either. They didn't matter manipulate, use super speed, teleportation. Just punched and kicked. Martian Manhunter holds back in all of his fights. He doesn't use half of his powers in combat. Let's throw all of his fights out of the window.

I've seen a lot of weird debating here but I've never seen anyone debate like this. Dont throw this type of debating style on most people here on KMC because it's foolish. it's not a debating style it's common sense. Every fight has context. Thor trying to reason with Banner, Wonder Woman trying to reach Power Girl...yes they're fighting but they aren't going all out. Why you can't grasp this basic concept is insane.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
it's not a debating style it's common sense. Every fight has context. Thor trying to reason with Banner, Wonder Woman trying to reach Power Girl...yes they're fighting but they aren't going all out. Why you can't grasp this basic concept is insane.

When did he try to reason with Banner? In the last pages, he said they would need to kill Banner due to his rage. So not only did he admit he isn't holding back, he said that they would need to kill him.

Originally posted by carver9
More powerful. Why would anyone think different? Are there different versions of Thors in each issue? Is the Immortal Hulk that fought the Avengers different than the Immortal Hulk that Loki fought? When did we start debating like this When Odin fully passed his essence to Thor so that Thor could access the Odinforce Thorforce... Thor went all glowy, instantly manifested the Odinsword, and fought so hard... he immediately underwent the Odinsleep Thorsleep for four months.

So while the version is supposed to be the same, it's very arguable that current Thor isn't exhibiting the same level of power against current Hulk. Not to the level that Thor did against a Mangog-corrupted, Motherstorm-possessed Mjolnir in the God of Hammers climax.

Something for your consideration.

Originally posted by ODG
When Odin fully passed his essence to Thor so that Thor could access the Odinforce Thorforce... Thor went all glowy, instantly manifested the Odinsword, and fought so hard... he immediately underwent the Odinsleep Thorsleep for four months.

So while the version is supposed to be the same, it's very arguable that current Thor isn't exhibiting the same level of power against current Hulk. Not to the level that Thor did against a Mangog-corrupted, Motherstorm-possessed Mjolnir in the God of Hammers climax.

Something for your consideration.

Exactly

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Exactly The thing I don't understand though... is that when Angela re-forged Mjolnir, it was supposed to be a completely powerless, magicless mallet. Thor himself says he senses no magic within it. It was more of a symbolic gesture.

But now during Banner of War, Mjolnir shoots lightning, exhibits the "worthy" enchantment, etc. It basically acts like the original Mjolnir, blessed with the Odinforce, or the Motherstorm, or whatever origin it has. Makes me wonder how much of the Thorforce he's using to make the current reforged Mjolnir act like "classic Mjolnir".

I think Cates may explore this. Because he surprised everyone (and me) with the Mangog-possession angle during the God of Hammers arc. Or it'll just be ignored. Like when JMS reforged Mjolnir and said that next time it broke it would killl Thor.

So every time Thor use a great amount of power, he autos goes into the Odin/Thor sleep or was/is this just a one time instance? Are we saying "every time Thor fights with his new found power, if he doesn't go into the Odin sleep, he's obviously holding back"?. Seems pretty obvious to me that he went into that deep sleep due to the powers being new to him.

Originally posted by carver9
So every time Thor use a great amount of power, he autos goes into the Odin/Thor sleep or was/is this just a one time instance? Are we saying "every time Thor fights with his new found power, if he doesn't go into the Odin sleep, he's obviously holding back"?. Seems pretty obvious to me that he went into that deep sleep due to the powers being new to him. Current Thor has had two fights so far, against: (i) Mangog-possessed Mjolnir, and (ii) "starship" Hulk. The second fight, hasn't actually concluded.

Arguments are being made that there are differences in the two fights when it comes to current Thor. And those arguments aren't being made in bad faith given the marked differences between the first and second fight. Let's wait to see what happens.

Originally posted by ODG
Current Thor has had two fights so far, against: (i) Mangog-possessed Mjolnir, and (ii) "starship" Hulk. The second fight, hasn't actually concluded.

Arguments are being made that there are differences in the two fights when it comes to current Thor. And those arguments aren't being made in bad faith given the marked differences between the first and second fight. Let's wait to see what happens.

👍🏾

Well we saw what happened.

How do people think it goes, and why?

The same as I said.

Thor takes this

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well we saw what happened.

How do people think it goes, and why? I believe God of Hammers Thor would win. But Banner of War Thor? That Thor didn't really do that much more than I would have expected from classic Thor. And clearly, Banner of War Thor didn't fall into the Odinsleep for months whereas he did during the former storyline.

So... I guess if taken at his best, current Thorforce Thor should win? But he just simply hasn't exhibited the same level of power as his first appearance. Starting to wonder if there's an in-story reason for it given all the circumstances surrounding Hel-reforged Mjolnir. It's not the first time an Odinforce Thor had to sacrifice the Odinforce to restore Mjolnir, e.g., Straczynski run had that happen.

Probably not, alas.

I still think Thanos wins, based on his TP abilities.

So many excuses for Thor lol

I think the main problem here is how jobby the celestials have gotten and how wonky iron Man's armors are when it comes to fighting other heroes.

Celestials were always jobbers, propped up by only statements except Thor 300.

How are they jobbers? A single one just casually killed the Phoenix, Starbrand and Thor with the full Odinforce!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Celestials were always jobbers, propped up by only statements except Thor 300. Tbh, many mundane characters look like cosmic beings when entering the Thor-verse. They're probably writing poems about Iceman's omnipotence. I don't even want to presume the stuff they're writing about Cyclops.

https://i.ibb.co/C0FbfXv/li-Qcrf6-Hu-Xmq-NI3-D12-Y9nrv99-GL2t-Ima4-YIxk-F7ff-Fd-QD-u28jj-Nb-ZWFSX2sx-JQVp-JC9-Ed-VL35-Nwd3-Nv.jpg

It'd probably make Pr blush.

Now that All-Father Thor stripped Zeus of his Skyfather powers, bump!

I saw him stripping Zeus occurring because Zeus also had All father power (which apparently is....common to all All fathers?) so it wouldn't be something he could do against a non All father.

Originally posted by ODG
Now that All-Father Thor stripped Zeus of his Skyfather powers, bump!

So he has stripped not only Galactus of his power cosmic, but he did the same thing to Zeus. Yeah, I'm putting Thor at skyfather levels of power, and he stomps Thanos brains in.

Didn't Odin (Marvel's top Skyfather) stalemate Thanos? Great argument as per usual, Carver.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I saw him stripping Zeus occurring because Zeus also had All father power (which apparently is....common to all All fathers?) so it wouldn't be something he could do against a non All father. Yeah, it seems Zeus made a link to him by pumping "All Power" power into him and was making him stronger, and then he absorbed the rest of it, either by that link or by becoming a larger bucket of that power than Zeus.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't Odin (Marvel's top Skyfather) stalemate Thanos? Great argument as per usual, Carver.

Thanos got cooked by Odin and could barely stand afterwards. Thor is beating high end characters. Thor is Skyfarher plus. I could've swore Thanos also stalemated a Thor who didn't have full access to Odin power.

Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, it seems Zeus made a link to him by pumping "All Power" power into him and was making him stronger, and then he absorbed the rest of it, either by that link or by becoming a larger bucket of that power than Zeus.

So pretty much the same as with Galactus. Guess people like Carver like to miss out context.

So Thor not only withstood Zeus full power, he absorbed it and then proceeded at taking the rest? Damn!!! Very impressive.

Originally posted by carver9
So Thor not only withstood Zeus full power, he absorbed it and then proceeded at taking the rest? Damn!!! Very impressive.

Yup.

It's like Superman taking the power of the sun. Very impressive when the sun is what powers him

I'll have to reread this but snatching power from a skyfather, no matter how you shake it, it's pretty impressive. If Darkseid powers were sourced by the sun and Superman snatched that shit from him, that would be a high end showing

^ When you have no avenue but to adopt quanchlogic.

https://gifdb.com/images/high/so-sad-donald-trump-kn2jmzvblv0q6v7d.gif Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So pretty much the same as with Galactus. Guess people like Carver like to miss out context. Distinguishable. Galactus transformed Odinforce Thor into a herald. Zeus tried to burn Odinforce Thor from the inside out with his power. The former was an act of amping. The latter was an attempted murder.

Granted, Zeus was newly resurrected and quite insane while Odinforce Thor was both calm and wise.

I think Odinforce's Thor's newfound wisdom is a result of him passing that rune trial God of Stories Loki put him through. I thought Odinforce Thor's wisdom was more figurative and less literal but Ewing has even gone on to afflict him with an addleness of the mind whenever he's on Earth.

I think that's the greater feat here. How many times have we (myself included) laughed at Thor and his intelligence? Now we have on panel narration calling him witty/smart.

^ Thor becoming wise through trials/tribulations is a greater feat than wholly absorbing a skyfather's power? This isn't the first time Thor's done that as he did the same when he sacrificed both eyes during Ragnarok,

Least he has both eyes now

Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, it seems Zeus made a link to him by pumping "All Power" power into him and was making him stronger, and then he absorbed the rest of it, either by that link or by becoming a larger bucket of that power than Zeus. Power bottom Thor

Originally posted by ODG
^ When you have no avenue but to adopt quanchlogic.

I didn't know Odin outright admitting that Thanos nearly rivals himself in power is exclusive to Quanchi.

https://i.postimg.cc/bJ84sHDY/image.jpg

And Thanos on panel waded through Odin's sustained blast.

https://i.postimg.cc/3JWV4wRG/image.jpg

This is not an action of a nuisance.

^ What does it look like when a DC fanatic adopts quanchilogic?

This. This is what it looks like.Somewhere in the depths of your soul, quanchi112 is cackling at your quaneuvers.

Originally posted by ODG
^ What does it look like when a DC fanatic adopts quanchilogic?

This. This is what it looks like.Somewhere in the depths of your soul, quanchi112 is cackling at your quaneuvers.
I know written words and drawings are difficult to understand for a retard like you but no need to blame poor quanchi for your inadequacies.

^ English? Even quanchi112 could carry a semblance of a discussion whilst pleading that Thanos somehow stalemated Odin. But I mean, to what depths of desperation have you fallen to that you must revive that myth?

Nobody forced you to adopt that idiocy. It was your own conscious choice. Completely unforced error.

Your foolishness is sometimes a wonder to behold.

Originally posted by ODG
^ English? Even quanchi112 could carry a semblance of a discussion whilst pleading that Thanos somehow stalemated Odin.
Nobody said anything about stalemating, you ****ing retard.

I never said anything about stalemating to begin with, you ****ing idiot.

Why are you so retarded?

^ Welp, I suppose this is where you start uncontrollably sh1tting your diapers. Hopefully, quanchi112 comes by to sooth your tantrum, clean your bloody butt and coach you how to proceed.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Welp, I suppose this is where you start uncontrollably sh1tting your diapers. Hopefully, quanchi112 comes by to sooth your tantrum, clean your bloody butt and coach you how to proceed.
LMAO, so you didn't even understand a simple post and started screaming like a retard about Thanos stalemating Odin when I never said that?

Yeah, seems about right.

^ Yes, quanchi112. We know what you're saying.

I love that his name still gets brought up as an insult. His autism lives on.

^ He did leave an indelible impression. Like a stench you can't get rid of.

Originally posted by abhilegend
As I said, Odin himself admitted that Thanos was nearly as powerful as himself.
That's not what those words say.

^ I would've told you to stay out of this for your own sanity. But then you said Constantine was a bad movie.

So you deserve everything coming your way. uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
Odin outright admitted Thanos was nearly as powerful as himself and Thanos waded through his blast in a fight that went on for 20+ pages.

Strange way to treat a nuisance. I mean I guess so, if we disregard that Odin stood there and tanked basically all his shots like nothing and was casually hand waving him away.

I guess he kept getting up, at least.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Yes, quanchi112. We know what you're saying.
So basically ad hominem. Figures.

Originally posted by Smurph
That's not what those words say.
What did Odin mean when he says Thanos taps into reserves nearly as limitless as the one Odin taps into Smurphy? Originally posted by Juntai
I mean I guess so, if we disregard that Odin stood there and tanked basically all his shots like nothing and was casually hand waving him away.

I guess he kept getting up, at least.
Odin did tank his shots, so did Thanos initially before Odin gradually wore him down in an extended fight, Heck he even no sold Odin's first attack.

Hand wave him away? Nothing like that happened

Originally posted by abhilegend
What did Odin mean when he says Thanos taps into reserves nearly as limitless as the one Odin taps into Smurphy? He didn't say that.

Read what he said again. Out loud and slowly.

Odin pretty clearly states that while the reserves both tap into are similarly nearly limitless, Odin's being of a divine nature makes his power intrinsically superior to Thanos' and is the reason Thanos has no chance in their fight.

It was a backhanded compliment to Thanos that still expressed conviction in the Mad Titan's inferiority.

Originally posted by Smurph
He didn't say that.

Read what he said again. Out loud and slowly.
Typical Smurph, I literally posted the words on the page verbatim and he still claims that's not what Odin said.

Do tell us what Odin said, let's hear it from you.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Odin pretty clearly states that while the reserves both tap into are similarly nearly limitless, Odin's being of a divine nature makes his power intrinsically superior to Thanos' and is the reason Thanos has no chance in their fight.

It was a backhanded compliment to Thanos that still expressed conviction in the Mad Titan's inferiority.
And Thanos refutes Odin's claims of divine nature of his power making Odin superior.

These guys are trying to gaslight that Odin didn't admit that Thanos taps into energy nearly as limitless as his own despite the words literally being on panel.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Odin pretty clearly states that while the reserves both tap into are similarly nearly limitless, Odin's being of a divine nature makes his power intrinsically superior to Thanos' and is the reason Thanos has no chance in their fight.

It was a backhanded compliment to Thanos that still expressed conviction in the Mad Titan's inferiority. Agreed. And none of that amounts to an "outright admission that Thanos is nearly as powerful as him" - Abhi's mischaracterization.

He says he is always going to be better than Thanos because, with respect to their power sources, his superior quality trumps the fact of their comparably limitless quantity.

People have argued for forever about the degree to which the overall fight implies that Thanos is close to Odin in power. But Abhi's trying to take that a step further by claiming that Odin "outright admitted" as much. And he plainly didn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Typical Smurph, I literally posted the words on the page verbatim and he still claims that's not what Odin said.
That's not what the word verbatim means.

You summarized. Wrongly.

Originally posted by abhilegend


These guys are trying to gaslight that Odin didn't admit that Thanos taps into energy nearly as limitless as his own despite the words literally being on panel. "gaslight" lol what

He doesn't say that Thanos's energies are "nearly as limitless as his own". He says they each tap into nearly limitless power sources. He doesn't say which is bigger.

He says the quality of Thanos' power is intrinsically inferior. That's it.

Originally posted by Smurph
"gaslight" lol what

He doesn't say that Thanos's energies are "nearly as limitless as his own". He says they each tap into nearly limitless power sources. He doesn't say which is bigger.

He says the quality of Thanos' power is intrinsically inferior. That's it.
So you do accept that Odin admits Thanos was nearly as powerful as himself, right?

Thanos refutes Odin's claim of superiority on the same page lol.

Originally posted by batdude123
I love that his name still gets brought up as an insult. His autism lives on.

it's been acquired by odg quite nicely.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you do accept that Odin admits Thanos was nearly as powerful as himself, right?

Thanos refutes Odin's claim of superiority on the same page lol.

lol of course he doesn't accept that because odin never said it. even by your own standards this is blatant lie man.

you tap a source of power similar to mine DOES NOT MEAN you're nearly as powerful as me. i mean wt actual f?

he taps an infinite well of power isn't the important part--the BUT that follows is. it isn't complicated.

thanos's refutation was shown to be meaningless in the book as most can readily see. in the end his refutation proved as meaningless as yours has been in this thread lol

Originally posted by leonidas
lol of course he doesn't accept that because odin never said it. even by your own standards this is blatant lie man.

What are you even talking about? That's exactly what Odin said.

https://postimg.cc/kV1THSvL

Here's the actual scan and what Odin says

"Titan, you tap into a power source dark and near limitless, as I am connected to a similar reserve".

Its crystal clear Odin is talking about their power levels being similar.

What follows is a pages long struggle where Thanos even wades through a sustained blast from Odin before he's worn down by Odin. I mean come on, this is common knowledge by now.



Of course, Thanos never waded through a sustained blast from Odin.

https://postimg.cc/w780ngDx

I just drew and painted that scan.

He said he is CONNECTED to a similar reserve. That do not mean they pull the same amount of power from this source. He even states this right after that statement. His power is divine, etc...

That statement is far away from meaning they are equals.

Originally posted by carver9
He said he is CONNECTED to a similar reserve. That do not mean they pull the same amount of power from this source. He even states this right after that statement. His power is divine, etc...

That statement is far away from meaning they are equals.
You're simply too stupid to understand what words mean, stay out of this.

so....NOWHERE does he admit that thanos is near his power, which is what you keep saying he is?

glad you quoted it though. i genuinely thought you were having a stroke or something or were suffering some form of dyslexia and actually thought it said what you keep saying it did.

it doesn't nor does it mean the same.

know who else draws on a near limitless supply of energy? the silver surfer who taps the power cosmic. quasar and the q-bands also do. hulk's strength draws from a near limitless source of power. they're all pars of odin too right?

it was a good showing for thanos. he took a beating and kept getting up. there was NO POINT IN THE FIGHT where odin was actually threatened or hurt or in any danger at all of losing to thanos. clearly underestimated him yes. just stop making it more than it was. lol like me telling you that will stop your--not trolling because i think you really believe your stance--delusion propagation fortunately EVERYONE aside from you sees what actually happened. stupid hill to die on but die you will, i know. somewhere taps is playing....

Originally posted by leonidas


so....NOWHERE does he admit that thanos is near his power, which is what you keep saying he is?

glad you quoted it though. i genuinely thought you were having a stroke or something or were suffering some form of dyslexia and actually thought it said what you keep saying it did.

it doesn't nor does it mean the same.

OK, what do you think that means?

Absolute strawman logic. Odin has never compared himself to these characters and these characters have never waded through a sustained blast from Odin.


You mean like when Thanos waded through his blast and they both struggled to take hold of Gungnir?



"Underestimated him", dude he straight up said Thanos is nearly as powerful as himself.

Rest is just revisionist nonsense.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And Thanos refutes Odin's claims of divine nature of his power making Odin superior.

What does that have to do with anything?

Your assertion is that Odin said Thanos is nearly as powerful as himself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
As I said, Odin himself admitted that Thanos was nearly as powerful as himself.

As seen here.

Given that you don't seem to have a rebuttal for my incredibly correct interpretation of Odin's words you'd seem to agree?

Ergo, your assertion that Odin admitted Thanos was nearly as powerful as himself was wrong, and you concede the point. And I gladly accept your concession.



You can change your mind, but you can't change your past abhi.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What does that have to do with anything?

Your assertion is that Odin said Thanos is nearly as powerful as himself.



As seen here.

Given that you don't seem to have a rebuttal for my incredibly correct interpretation of Odin's words you'd seem to agree?

What are you even talking about? I posted Odin's words verbatim that he and Thanos are tapping into similar power reserves but Odin claimed his power being divine has an edge. That's exactly what nearly being as powerful means lol.

Amusing but no cigar.

Again, faintly amusing but no Bueno.

Look, both carver and I draw our power from the same source of burgers.

We are NOT the same

Originally posted by abhilegend
Anything else is just revisionism. https://media.tenor.com/cBEBOrjOrUcAAAAM/oh-the-irony-derek-muller.gif

Odin only stated that the respective power-sources that he and Thanos had access to were similar in the sense that they are both near-limitless.

The depth to which they could each draw upon said power-sources is an entirely different discussion, however... And Odin made no direct comparisons in that regard.

Moreover, he made the point that his power is divine and Thanos' wasn't. He said that factor made his win inevitable but he didn't say it was a "near" distinction. He just said it was decisive.

the point i was trying to get at with the power cosmic comparison and rage's sun sun comparison. maybe you'll have better luck getting through but i don't it after reading this:



"Odin claimed his power being divine has an edge."

odin NEVER claimed that. EVER. he simply stated a fact. it COULD imply that odin believes himself WELL above thanos. which i'm sure he does.

again, this misinterpretation (and blatant misrepresentation) is astounding even by your own standards abhi. it would be fine--we all misunderstand sh!t at times. but damn man--we don't all try to foist our misunderstandings on others for page after page after page....and stop saying odin said this or that when he manifestly did not. your inability to alter your position--however wrong--is actually breathtaking

FFS we all know my burger analogy is king

https://www.thejunctionshopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Burger-King.png

Originally posted by leonidas
this misinterpretation (and blatant misrepresentation) is astounding even by your own standards abhi. abhilegend's misinterpretation is "astounding" ... for him? We are talking about abhilegend, right?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/744b31cedd07aadba67c3b80626295e6/tumblr_nsz5q2F4qh1tq4of6o1_400.gif

No need to lie in service of congeniality. Call it how you see it. ahah

Originally posted by ODG
https://media.tenor.com/cBEBOrjOrUcAAAAM/oh-the-irony-derek-muller.gif Originally posted by ODG
abhilegend's misinterpretation is "astounding" ... for him? We are talking about abhilegend, right?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/744b31cedd07aadba67c3b80626295e6/tumblr_nsz5q2F4qh1tq4of6o1_400.gif

No need to lie in service of congeniality. Call it how you see it. ahah
Lol, typical dumbo tactic. Originally posted by Galan007
Odin only stated that the respective power-sources that he and Thanos had access to were similar in the sense that they are both near-limitless.

The depth to which they could each draw upon said power-sources is an entirely different discussion, however... And Odin made no direct comparisons in that regard.
Yeah, Odin somehow only mentioned their power sources being near identical and Thanos even waded through Odin's blast but let's ignore that to pretend that the fight wasn't pretty much back and forth until Odin wore Thanos down.

Even handbooks confirm that Thanos and Odin fought to a standstill if you wanted something to reinforce the notion that Thanos was nearly as powerful as Odin.Originally posted by Smurph


Moreover, he made the point that his power is divine and Thanos' wasn't. He said that factor made his win inevitable but he didn't say it was a "near" distinction. He just said it was decisive.
Thanos refutes Odin's claim of divinity being superior on the very same page.

Originally posted by leonidas
the point i was trying to get at with the power cosmic comparison and rage's sun sun comparison. maybe you'll have better luck getting through but i don't it after reading this:

Odin swatted infinite power tapping Surfer like a fly in the very same comic lol. Prime swatted similar power tapping Superman, M'onel and Andromeda like flies.

Its like you guys don't even try anymore.





He literally says that his power being divine, science based powers can't match it.

https://i.postimg.cc/gX0PbTdn/image.jpg



Oh **** off, it's like Quanchi's decade long trolling literally shuts everyone's brains on this fight that they can't even understand simple facts.



Are you serious with this bullshit?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
World War Abhi. The sequel

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lol, typical dumbo tactic.
Yeah, Odin somehow only mentioned their power sources being near identical and Thanos even waded through Odin's blast but let's ignore that to pretend that the fight wasn't pretty much back and forth until Odin wore Thanos down.

Even handbooks confirm that Thanos and Odin fought to a standstill if you wanted something to reinforce the notion that Thanos was nearly as powerful as Odin.
Thanos refutes Odin's claim of divinity being superior on the very same page. Your claim: Odin "outright admitted" Thanos was his near equal

Your proof:
- Odin compared their power sources
- Thanos waded through a blast
- Fight was back and forth
- Handbooks say they fought to a standstill
- Thanos "refuted" Odin's claim of being superior

Look at the claim and look at the "proof". Even if someone agreed with you on each point, they are totally irrelevant to your claim. Thanos' response doesn't change the meaning of Odin's words. Neither do handbook comparisons.

Odin either outright said something, or he didn't.

Originally posted by Smurph
The sequel

The sequel would technically need to be World War Abhis, plural form. As that's what Pak did in 616 (World War Hulks).

You have any idea how many Abhis there are in India, let alone on the whole planet?

We're screwed.

Goodbye, cruel world.

https://i.ibb.co/3Bv0Kkf/tumblr-n7bxjk-Ioo91t0demio6-250.gif

PS. Thor gets raped by Night Thrasher or Prowler; Thanos doesn't waste his time on z-listers worshipped by monkeys.

^ Can show this gif but can't say ****. Lol. Forum is hilarious.

We can't even say **** or *******, unless we bypass the word filter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superboy Prime suffered a nervous breakdown against Superboy. Otherwise he casually overpowered Superman, M'onel and Andromeda together who derive their power from the same source.

Never change ragey.

I'm talking about Infinite Crisis #6, post-SF imprisonment and him killing a bunch of Titans.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#24
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#25
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#28
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#29
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#30
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#31
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#32

"I wasn't even trying last time."

This implies now Prime IS trying.

I'm not even going to bring up his other appearances against the Titans.

Did Superboy have help from Wonder Girl? Sure, he did.

But Thanos had help from Surfer and Drax.

Did Prime have the advantage? Sure, but I'd argue the fight against Superboy was less lop-sided then Odin's total dominance against Thanos.

I just know that if someone argued Superboy is nearly as powerful as Prime because of that fight and how they draw on a similar power source, you would vehemently disagree.

Now keep in-mind, Odin can draw on the energy of the entire Asgardian Race (which is sustained by the OF) to 2x his power. He can than further 2x his power by drawing on the energy of the dimension of Asgard, which is also sustained by the Odin Force. He can ALSO draw on the energy of the World Tree.

I don't know if those OF rules still apply in current Marvel, but at that point in time, Thanos was fighting base-form Odin and getting dominated. Arguing that he is nearly as powerful as Odin is stupid.

There is a fundamental difference in-depiction between Odin being an amped-up Asgardian and a cosmic Sky-father.

Depending on the depiction, Thanos puts up a fights but gets dominated, or he doesn't even warrant Odin fighting him.

Originally posted by Smurph


Odin either outright said something, or he didn't.

He did say it, yall just too traumatised by Quanchi's trolling.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm talking about Infinite Crisis #6, post-SF imprisonment and him killing a bunch of Titans.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#24
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#25
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#28
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#29
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#30
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#31
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-6?id=39434&s=&readType=0#32

"I wasn't even trying last time."



This implies now Prime IS trying.

I'm not even going to bring up his other appearances against the Titans.

Did Superboy have help from Wonder Girl? Sure, he did.

And Superboy died against a weakened Prime (who was wearing the armor for getting back to full power)

Superboy died, Thanos was still standing by the end of the fight. You really can't be this stupid.

Sure thing buddy.

Odin is a Saiyan now. Figures.

Depending on the depiction all Thanos needed was some laser guns to capture and sell Odin on slave market.

As much as I hate Thanos I can't lie to myself here. Some of you are arguing from bias. Try to be objective. Odin's words were to paint a picture that Thanos is not too far off from him. That was the intention. If you don't see that then you are either lying to yourself or others.
"I draw from a similar reserve", paints the picture of the two being close in power. The fact that Odin couldn't put Thanos down using Gungnir with sustained blasts shows that Thanos was a peer (a slightly weaker one though).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Depending on the depiction all Thanos needed was some laser guns to capture and sell Odin on slave market.

And he does carry those from time to time

What, slaves?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He did say it.



anybody else would likely be banned for lying so blatantly but it's the blatancy that saves you. the lie is so transparent that it has no meaning.

i wanna say never change abhi, but it would be nice at this point.