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Everyone seems to think rather highly of Blade ever since his big screen release, I'd like to bring the Wolvie fans out on this one to see where Blade really stands.

Wait, is it Bone-Claw Wolvie? Adamantium Wolvie? Horsemen Wolvie? Patch? Weapon-X? The only reason I ask is because this would determine how BADLY Blade loses. If Marvel thought so highly of Blade, his Heroclick would have been more than 33 points. On a funnier note, Abbey Chase's Heroclick is worth 50 points. Blade is such a wuss.

if it were the movie versions...... i think blade would win

nah, lets not use the movie versions. they dont seem accurate enough

the movie version of blade is the only one i like.

The movie version is full of it. It was a Hyped up visual film. Nothing it portrays can be accurate.

just like in alternate realities

i dont even think movie blade would win, i mean yoriko is like blade X10

i dunno, blade was bad in the movie. his guns wouldnt do much except slow wolverine down, but he was hell of a fighter.

circumstances/surrounding also let wolverine win in the movie. i remember him losing the fight till he got lucky.

yeah of course, she had that wierd syrum stryker put on the back of her neck, that would make her blade X20 lol

but when it comes down to it blade gets touched by one of those claws he's as good as dead, he doesnt have much against someone who isnt a vampire, except good fighting prowess

No, there's no pressure on an alternate reality to mishape the character for purposes of selling tickets.

but neither hold water in main stream marvel, which is what i was trying to get at

I disagree, had i said Watcher's speculations are exactly what we're doing now. Had i said elseworlds or even ultimates i'd understand your arguement.

ignore that first had i said, i'm getting tired

This would be Blade, easy. He's a more skilled fighter, his senses and regenerative powers are just as good as Logan's, and he's much stronger.

dunno if I would actually say Blade is a more skilled fighter. Wolverine is a master at hand to claw combat.

I just want to say....that guy up there ^ referred to heroclix....

Wolverine. Blade can only win if he gets a lucky shot and takes wolvie's head off. I'm sure he can play blockie blockie stabby stabby for a while, but he doesn't have what it takes to kill wolverine unless he gets a good ole fashion double 6. HEROCLIX BABY! :: Fondly remembers double 6s on blades/claws/fangs, killing juggernaut off with blade and laughing insanely about it afterwards ::

does ne one have a pic of horsmen wolverine, or a list of stats?

ne way wolvie owns blade

Yes way wolvie wins it. Anyone who says (insert name here) is a better fighter than Wolvie has obviuosly never even bothered to read a comic. As for the healing, go to best healing factors thread. Blade is no where on that list.

truth of it is blade got his ass handed to him bye batman when they fought and batman not in same league as wolverine

Actually yes and no. Batman can hand Blade his ass. Batman is in the same league as wolverine as far as fighting ability goes. Please understand wolvie8888 that many people can fight as well as wolverine can. It is true he at the very hieghts of fighting ability, but differences between him and others who are also at these hieghts is truly insignificant.

Bats can hold his own against Capn' BLade can too, but I think the movie version of Blade was way over done. That is Spiderman action. Wolvy eventually wins, but not without gettn his ass handed to him several times. Blade hunts for a living. He's no dumb ass. this would be a good fight....in a way Blade is like Bats and Wolvy, or more, inbetween. the average of the two.

wolverine considered the best he is at what he does and what he does is fight. truth is batman not in same league wolverine is at superhuman level agility, strenth, reflex and higher yet in durablilty. truth of it is batman coudl give wolverine a fight if wolvy was same level of sstat but wolverine is 2 levels higher batman not even peak and wolverine over peak human

Blade cannot hold his own against Captain America. Not even in your wildest dreams. The movie version of Blade depends highly on visuals to sell tickets. Of course with a huge budget like that Blade is going to look like a much better fighter than he actually is. You can show things in movies that it would be a waste of time to represent in comics. Batman, Wolvie, and Captain america are all basically on par when it comes to fighting ability. Blade is several step beneath them. Blade is a dumbass, read the Dracula stories where he first appears with an afro and a headband (not so cool now eh.) In between? The average of the two? I scoff at thee!

What exactly Wolvie is the best at is a subject of debate itself. I mentioned Batman's fighting ability, not his agility, strength, etc. Batman is exactly the peak of human excellence. The pinnacle of human achievement. He could beat no one at anyone olympic event (except marathons, triathlons and the like) but would be in the top 5 of all the rest. I understand you have knowledge of Wolvie, but it is obvious you do not have knowledge on batman.

Your all wrong! If Logan (not Wolverine) caught Bruce Wayne at one of those really nice restauraunts (not Batman) drinking an expensive wine at a piano Bar in downtown Gotham City this is how it goes down. Bruce (not having his trusty utility belt full of all those deadly weapons that help him to basicly cheat during mostly all of his fights) would jump back into a boxing stance then drop his glass getting him really pissed off. Do a roundoff kick to Logans head, then push him down and jump on the bar. Logan would use his so called animal like reflexes to jump up and tackle Bruce behind the bar where all anyone would hear from there is the faint...slink. Then since Mr. Wayne is so beloved by Gotham, Commissioner Gordan arrives with four swat teams and all of them together take Logan down. THE END

ur right I do not know of batman that well I not a dc person

cosmo a army could not take down wolverine what makes u think a swat team could even touch him

Blade's comics got revanmped after the movies. Pre-movies he was a totaly wuss, but now he's completely badass. He's like a black batman, and actually, hes superior to batman in a fistfight because he is stated to know 'every form of martial arts' and is stronger then batman anyone. On that same note, Blade is stronger then wolverine, when was the last time wolverine could leap 20 feet? Or jump off of rooftops without getting hurt? Wolverine heals from it, but he does take damage. As far as Batman goes, he's smarter and has more money and gadgets then blade. I find them to be the same type of character but blade is more of a fighter and batman is the detective.

But yes, the old blade really did suck some serious ass. He just used mahoganey daggers and shit... wow.

I knew u would say that! Then howcome Wolverine got his asskicked by Omega Red, huh? Your bringing up Wolvies pathetic little mini series where he's superpowerful and nothing stands in his way. But Wolverine got his ass handed to him plenty of times to the point where he should be dead while other heroes did not. So that means there better than Wolverine. Yeah thats right, I said it. They dont have healing factors!

I'll have to take your word on that Nataku, but to say anyone is better than batman at a fist fight is ludicrous. As a fightfan of many different kinds and someone who has dabbled in martial arts, i can tell you from personal experience and the word of many an educated fighter that it doesn't matter how many martial arts forms you know. Many of todays top fighters know only around 4-5 martial arts and have utterly destroyed so called "masters" of people who beleive in there forms and styles too much.

But blade has much more experience in using his martial arts then bruce, because hunting vampires IS his life, unlike batman who also has a real life. I'm not saying batman is a slouch, but Blade has enhanced strength, endurance, speed and reflexes. I'm pretty sure he can go one on one with bats and win it... unless bats goes to make some type of anti-blade weapon.

As long as you agree that the skill is no better, I never said that he had a physical advantage. To Batman's credit though, he has taken people who are both faster and stronger than him and a few have had supreme skill with a sword. But this thread is Blade vs. Wolverine.

to be a peak human is to be of olympic quality, saying he's a peak human and the pennacle of achievement would mean that he could win at ANY olympic event, and while his fighting is indeed superior to wolverines he is still a "human" (although he's been depicted as bruce lee X10 in some comics)

Over at the official Mavel website they have a poll on who you would like to see Wolverine fight next. BLade is on that poll. I voted for him cause I was thinking if he gets enough votes that fight will happen. If you want to see this fight go over there and vote. Maybe we can make it happen.

I said he'd be top 5 in any one. Olympic athletes are highly specialised. Batman is well rounded. I hardly think this discredits what I said. Realistically, Batman is the pinnacle of human acheivement.

Actually I don't want to see that fight, I think people are hyping up blade way too much. It really should just be a warm up for Wolvie.

how could you say real life olympic athletes are highly specialized and batman is just well-rounded? batman is every olympic athlete X10

realistically, batman is a character in a comic book, who's having a movie made

Well it would be a cool fight to see. And you honestly dont think Wolvie is hyped up too much?

i think he just has a wider fanbase, and everyone tries to friggin revolve things around him (im talking of wolverine) as for hype, wolverine lives up to most of it (not all), and blade is mostly based on the movie version (i really dont believe there would be these many battle threads if blade never had a movie)

Yea, pretty much. The movie version was so popular they changed the comics too... Oldschool blade was a fruit-pie and a half.

blade can not give wolverine a fight at all he would get destroyed he is out matched in every thign strength,agility,reflex,durability, and also wolverine is a far better fighter. wolverine win this one fast and easy

Well the Blade that originated in the Tomb of Dracula series was a fruit pie but the BLade in his later appearances was like the movie version. And was a total Badass. The movie version isnt really too far fetched. Just by watching the movies though Blade is more than a match for the movie version of Wolverine. Anybody that kills vampiers at the rate BLade does can not be ignored even by Wolverine. Wolverine8888 I read alot of your posts on wolverine and you are obsessed is all I can tell you.

I noticed a lot of arguments above about fighting ability. Here is a list of the top fighters in marvel (no particular order):
Wolverine, Sabretooth, Cable, Shang-Chi:Master of Kung-Fu, Omega Red, Captain America, Maverick, and Blade.
Keep in mind that these are the best of the best. It is possible I may have missed a person or two but I tried to list characters whose fighting ability was determined by over skill and knowledge, not powers.

I mayhap forgot Iron Fist.....but I'm not sure if he qualifies

sorry about above!!!! I did some more research and here is my final list about the top fighters in the Marvel U.
In no particular order: Wolverine, Sabretooth, Cable, Shang-Chi:Master of Kung-Fu, Omega Red, Captain America, Maverick, and Conan.

Sorry Blade fans. Multiple sources (including Marvel Directory) do not hold Blade in that high esteem when it comes to fighting.

Blade? I've heard alot of this "Blade is a master of every martial art" talk going on. So? This in no way makes him one of Marvel's top fighters. Put him hand to hand against Shang-Chi. Test his steel against Conan's.

I am neither a Wolvie fan nor a Blade fan. I've been hearing alot of "Blade would whip this guy and all these guys together kinda talk" so I chose Wolvie as my champion to take Blade down a notch because I was sure there would be enough Wolvie fans to come out here and back me up (instead all i got was a certain quadrupal numbered fan who has completely discredited himself or herself in the eyes of many.)

Blade's movie is a pop-culture answer to guy's with swords, all hype. And as much as many hear seem to be quite tired of Wolverine, the fact remains that he's a top grade fighter and more than a match for Blade.

Yeah, he is. I hate wolverine, but Blade stands little chance against him.

Oh, and ab, dont use internet sources. Try actually READING comics.

imo, comic book wise all the characters abaddon mentioned would be the top, except of course adding daredevil, ironfist, and elektra...but thats just from my perspective

Nah, don't get me wrong there good, but on martial level alone they do compare. Although Iron fist is close, and one version of Electra is as well.

psssshhh, U guys are forgetting a lot of fighters in the MU. For example the Thing is no push over (an excelent world class fighter), and Submarainer took down Thing.

No. no one forgot them. They're just not that good.

The fighters I mentioned above are the highest based on overall experience, fighting/tactical knowledge, learned skills, and fighting instinct. Electra is a good fighter but I'd say she is 1 step bellow the others. As well as Iron Fist (I did think of mentioning him however). Dardevil is also good but I think he lacks the tactical knowledge to be among the best. The Thing, I think he relies too much on his strength to be among the top fighters.

Where's Spider-Man ? If you're going to include people such as Omega Red and Conan, Spider-Man should also be included. He happens to be one of the greatest fighters (and definitely better than let's say Cable). Period.

No, I don't think Spiderman should be on that list. Spidey is great at using the surroundings in combination with his webs and agility but based on raw fighting ability, he'd be outmatched. I also don't think Omega Red should be on that list.

Black Panther and Stick should be added though.

No, No, No, Spidey kinda counts, and kinda doesn't count in this category. His fighting ability is matched by few to none, but it's because of his spidersense that guides the full use of his body in battle. He is experienced in combat later in his story, but in the very beginning his natural spidey sense did most of the work, but it is what makes him spiderman. U can't really lay a finger on him. and with all of his powers at use, he could fight back in a milion more different and effective ways than someone who cant walk on walls, or bounce around faster than you can see, or use extreme flexability and agility to escape almost any situation.

If you took Spidey's strength and put bats or wolvy at normal human strength, with all of their knowlege, they cuoldn't lay a finger on him.

Yes, that's the point, I think its Spiderman's superhuman agility and spiders sense that makes him virtually untouchable, not his fighting style. Same can be said of the Flash, can anyone touch the Flash when he's using his powers? Now you wouldn't count the Flash as one of the best fighters out there, would you?

are you guys talking about martial arts or just fighting skill?

if sabretooth and wolvie are up there then definitely ironfist, daredevil, and elektra should be up there

shouldn't you be talking about Blade fighting Wolverine???

I'm only gonna say this once more to clarify: The fighters I mentioned above are the highest based on overall experience, fighting/tactical knowledge, learned skills, and fighting instinct. Daredevil, Electra, and Iron Fist are 1 step below the above. If anyone would like to know where I draw my conclusions, message me or start a new thread in the discussion column.

Anyway, my point was Wolverine outclasses Blade in more ways than one so Wolvie would win.

The only thing Wolverine outclasses Blade in is a popularity contest. Blade is faster, stronger, and equal in fighting ability and he has the keen senses that Wolverine does. Blade has all of the strengths of vampires and none of the weaknesses. That alone should speak for itself. How many times have you seen Wolverine jump across a rooftop or outrun a speeding train in a subway or even do a backflip off a rooftop and land on his feet(and yes this is from the movies). But none the less he as these powers in the comics as well.

Your right, Wolverine is more popular than Blade; because Wolverine is a better character. Blade wasn't as powerful (overall) until his movie. After the realease, Marvel strengthened his character to better reflect the character in the movie.

Blade may be faster and stronger but he is no where near the fighting ability as Wolverine. Blade would lose every weapon he had against Wolverine because Blade's weapons cannot cut thru adamantium. It would come down to an unarmed Blade vs. an armed Wolverine. Blade may be strong, but he wouldn't be able to hurt Wolvweine in the long run. Wolverine has been hit by people far stronger than Blade and has gotten up right away. When it comes down to regenerative abilities, Wolverine dwarfs Blade yet again. Once Wolverine gets those first couple of slashes, Blade will slow down enough for Wolverine to decapitate him.

Actually Blade was like this before the first movie came out. His BLade series that ran from 1994-95 was the inspiration for the movie Blade. And then there was the nighstalker series he was in and he had the black leather and the sword and other gadgets. The healing factor edge may go to wolverine but if BLade could somehow drain some of logans Blood from a bite his healing factor would surpass even Wolverines. The more blood he drinks the faster he heals. It may be hard to do but it is surely possible.

I'm not familiar with the 94-95 series of Blade so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If Blade went for a bite attempt, it would leave an opening just big enough for Wolvie to take advantage of. If Blade did land the bite, it would be an interesting scenario...

No, blade didn't outrun trains and regenerate at uber speed before his movie. They may have made Blade look cooler than his previous afro-sporting-yellow shirt wearing-blue spandex pant things. But they in no way changed his power. Just the artist. You might get the impression that they changed his power but this is in effect the same as watching the movie and guessing they changed his power (although in this instance they obviously did.)

And unless Blade and Wolverine were in a grapple (which basically never happens in comics) if Blade tried to bite Wolvie he'd have no teeth left with which to consider doing that again.

Wolverine's the better figher, he's far more durable, and wouldn't lose to blade no matter how much techo music is playing in the background.

LOL, that was a good one merciless

although off-topic yet again, sabretooth has no tactical fighting ability whatsoever, he was never trained by anyone, in weapon x they just used his savagery, before that he just used his savagery and after that its the same damn thing, so when it comes down to fighting SKILL, sabretooth should definitely not be in that class

wolvie wins this one full on, all of blades weapons do most damage against vampires and normal damagae to humans, wolverines survived mafia hits without a problem, so blade as nothing here at all, his fighting skill is completely outmatched by wolvie, his strength i dont know too much about, but judging from comics i've read, its a little weaker than caps so probably around the same level as wolverines, his titanium blades would get sliced by wolvies claws like a hot knife through butter, hell...wolvie with his claws sheathed would still win

Actually, Blade has a sword that was supposedly forged in hell so I'm not sure what Adamantium will do against that.

Merciless why dont you read the Blade series I already mentioned in my previous post and then see if you have the same answer. It was in 94-95. The movie came out in 1998. He was also in the Nightstalkers series which ran from 92-94. He has the silver spikes and also the sword. His speed and strength was there also. You obviously didnt read any of the comics.

No... just ... no.

Give blade an adamantium sword and he wins the prize. Otherwise, he's going down HARDCORE. As for the blade series... I checked the dates, lo and behold, he's right! I thought they changed the comic after the movie... I'll have to go scrounging and get the series so I can see this tomfoolery I'm hearing about.

Sabretooth does have tactical knowledge and combat training. He was a Black Ops agent. Do you really think a Black Ops branch of the government is going to send someone on a mission without porper training? That is like sending a rabid dog to take down a criminal. Yes, they did use his savagery; but they finely tuned it with discipline (much like Wolverine in Japan, although Wolverine has more discipline because of this). Read some comics with Sabes in them and you will find out that he is very smart when it comes to tactical knowldege.

Hello everyone. I usually stick in the anime/manga forum or in the sig and artist forums. I just couldn't resist seeing what could be said here in comic land and i find a feeble fight between Wolverine and Blade? I'm sorry guys, but this has to be a joke. Even if Blade is as strong as said in earlier postings to this thread, he still won't do anything to Wolverine. It really doesn't matter who has the most fans. Wolverine would walk into the fight, dodge some projectiles and the little frisbee. He would break the sword (which by the way is cool, I have a replica of the movie sword) and slice poor ol' Blade to tinsle. Don't make a fight between the two, I just can't bare to see a good character like Blade be made fool putty of. BTW again, does anyone know what cold-cut half-vampire sandwiches taste like? I've only tried full-blood. hmmmmmm

Well i guess you didn't read the whole thing. This thread was meant to stop all the Blade vs. "characters he couldn't possibly beat threads" started by his movies.

I'm just stating what appeared in a Nightstalkers comic before the Blade movie, where Blade stopped John Blaze's bike using his sword (the hard way, not by sticking it in the spokes)

I think what Nataku mean (and please forgive me if i'm wrong Nataku) is that this was a character claim that had absolutely no truth to it what so ever. Think about it, if this were true, then this weapon would be reveared and it most certainly wouldn't end up in the hands of Blade.

I did say "supposedly"

Fair enough.

How the **** did this make it to four pages? Seriously, I probably like Blade more then anyone here... but there is no way in hell he's gonna win unless he gets the jump on wolvie and cuts his head off...

OR

It's Wolvie without adamantium.

but this might

I can save this thread from going about 1 million-babillion-fafillion pages.
Wolverine decimates.

Wolverine has problems with guys less powerful than Blade, Blade can do the job.
And the comic Blade possess same weaponry and powers.

You've gone mad! Wolverine has less problems with guys far more powerful.

I disagree. Blade can definitely hold his own. Haven't you seen Blade 2? He took on two HIGHLY trained martial artists with swords at the same time, and was clearly beating them. I think he could definitely handle himself fighting Wolverine. Besides, Blade also has him in pure strength. Agility, I'd say they're evenly matched.

I think this could be a very good fight. But I think Blade would pull through and win.

Guns may do more damage than you think.

New X-men #143.

And now read what Wolverine says on this page.

You posted the exact same thing twice? Shame on you!

There are two different threads. I felt it necessary.

I've been trying to get them merged but I'm not sure it can be done cause one has a poll.

Movie Blade Vs Movie Wolverine?