Ego vs Mogo

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eleveninches
2 living planets.
Who would win?

Fieldy69
how would they fight?

eleveninches
smashing into each other.
Mogo is a GL, so he could make constructs

Fieldy69
is mogo marvel or dc i know ego is marvel

Tron
Well, since it was just stated that Mogo's a GL, I'd assume DC.no expression

eleveninches
Mogo was kind of lost when hal killed the GLC, so he survived and is still a GL today.

Mr.V
Marvel's living planet

vs

DC's living planet

Mr.V
Oh i see, no-one wants to see literal planets go to war? sad fine...

Skeets
Mogo's useless and he's a Green Lantern......
*runs before Validus enters*

Validus
They're basically the same except Mogo has a power ring or a power equator as its seen.

I get the feeling he's about to be killed off though. sad

grey fox
So it's GL versus Elder Of the Universe ?

Mr.V
Yes more or less big grin

DigiMark007
Originally posted by grey fox
So it's GL versus Elder Of the Universe ?

Well, a sentient planet with a GL ring vs. an Elder.

cheap cabbage
Mogo is a sentient planet that wields a green lantern ring.
http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/images/mogo.gif

Ego, Marvel's living planet. Able to control every part of his planetary body.
http://www.tebeosfera.com/Seccion/GDT/ego.jpg

Sea King
Originally posted by cheap cabbage
Mogo is a sentient planet that wields a green lantern ring.
http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/images/mogo.gif

Ego, Marvel's living planet. Able to control every part of his planetary body.
http://www.tebeosfera.com/Seccion/GDT/ego.jpg

mogo has a gl ring he wins the planet royal

Apolloknight
You gotta be kidding me, a planet with a GL ring........ROFL.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Apolloknight
You gotta be kidding me, a planet with a GL ring........ROFL.

How is it any weirder than Ego? They're both sentient planets. confused

Anyway, probably Mogo, but who knows how it would play out in a comic.

complexbrother
At first I was gonna say Mogo wins becaus of his GL ring, but Ego has gone toe to toe with Galactus and wasn't destroyed. my vote is for Ego 7.5/10

Sea King
Originally posted by complexbrother
At first I was gonna say Mogo wins becaus of his GL ring, but Ego has gone toe to toe with Galactus and wasn't destroyed. my vote is for Ego 7.5/10

realy??

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by complexbrother
At first I was gonna say Mogo wins becaus of his GL ring, but Ego has gone toe to toe with Galactus and wasn't destroyed. my vote is for Ego 7.5/10
because he can't be destroyed he is essential to the universe

complexbrother
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
because he can't be destroyed he is essential to the universe

really ? when did they say that ? (you are takling about Ego right ?)

Validus
Originally posted by DigiMark007
How is it any weirder than Ego? They're both sentient planets. confused

Anyway, probably Mogo, but who knows how it would play out in a comic.
I see these two getting down and dirty, if ya know what I mean... shifty

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Validus
I see these two getting down and dirty, if ya know what I mean... shifty HOW

Validus
Originally posted by Big Sexy
HOW

Mogo's constructs, Ego's volcanoes....you do the math. jockey

diabloman
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
because he can't be destroyed he is essential to the universe galactus can destroy him for sure. thats his work.

leonidas
i'm gonna get that hat . . .

Sub_Mariner
No PIS, CIS, No BS. Just a plain out fight.

Who wins? Fight in space (of course).

Blair Wind
Doesnt Mogo have basically all of Egos powers plus a GL ring?

Sub_Mariner
Wiki just says he has a GL Ring. erm

Sub_Mariner
http://www.dcdatabaseproject.com/wiki/index.php/Mogo
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Ego

Blair Wind
nah...he can also control all the weather on his body "planet", use gravity as a weapon, control the earth on his body, and even has reality manipulation (I mean how many times has Kyle seen Alex on that planet?!)

Sub_Mariner
Oki Thanks for the knowledge! big grin

Ok remove Mogos GL Ring.

draxx_tOfU
nice match-up....

im going with ego if mogo doesnt have his gL ring....

Tron
Been done:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=323680

PRAYERRUN
2 living planets, one universe. who wins?

trolly_crouchjr
been done and Mogo wins

PRAYERRUN
how so? and when? and how? and everything else cause aparently i'm confused lol.

King_Mungi
He meant previous threads, which you can view using the search function.

Grimm22
mustache ftw

PRAYERRUN
oh lol. now i'm not so confusedstick out tongue.

Validus
I would favor Mogo. Both are living planets, one is also a GL. The willpower of a living planet has to be immense.

PRAYERRUN
I wonder if they are both males or if one of them is a female. stick out tongue

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
I wonder if they are both males or if one of them is a female. stick out tongue Well, one has a mustache... confused

PRAYERRUN
that doesn't prove anything.........(kinda trails off.):stick out tongue

Tron
This has been done quite a few times. Do a search next time.

Evil_Ash
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/Mogo.jpg

vs.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/bio-ego.jpg

roll eyes (sarcastic)

grey fox
Facial Hair = Pwnage


Mogo goes crying home to Ganthet....

DigiMark007
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=428148&highlight=title%3A%28Mogo+vs.+Ego%29

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=424862&highlight=title%3A%28Mogo+vs.+Ego%29

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=323680&highlight=title%3A%28Mogo+vs.+Ego%29

Use the search., Kthxbie!

Akuki
Which of the two planets wins it?

Akuki
Anyone? Really?

batdude123
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=455457&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=428148&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=424862&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=323680&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77

Akuki
Originally posted by batdude123
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=455457&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=428148&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=424862&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=323680&highlight=title%3A%28Ego+vs.+Mogo%29+forumid%3A77
Damnit I searched for this too, where the hell did I screw up. embarrasment

llagrok
You need to use advanced search. The other search only checks one page.

SevenShackles
Mogo Vs Ego the living planet!

round1- in neutral space.

round 2- Ego gets the nova force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_the_Living_Planet

who wins?! why?! eek!

occultdestroyer
Ego wins.
High-abstract level cosmic entity.

Allankles
Yeah Ego would take it, but if Mogo can make shields, he would make it tough for Ego to beat him. Mogo is an interesting character going by the Corps comics though, he's basically the Yoda of the GL corps.

occultdestroyer
Ganthet >>> Mogo

Endless Mike
Ego is currently posessed by the Xandarian Worldmind, isn't he?

guy222
Classic Ego FTW

Thorion
Originally posted by Allankles
Yeah Ego would take it, but if Mogo can make shields, he would make it tough for Ego to beat him. Mogo is an interesting character going by the Corps comics though, he's basically the Yoda of the GL corps.

No he wouldn't.

Mogo, 10/10.

OneDumbG0
Ego without the Novaforce he currently possesses would probably beat Mogo. Not easily. But with the array of powers he possessed, I definitely think he would. Although both Mogo and Ego have shown weaknesses to little people running around in their biospheres and trying to sabotage them from within, that isn't the case here. But I haven't seen a whole bunch of feats from Mogo to be able to make a guess at the wins/losses split...

TricksterPriest
Well, I believe Kilowog said that since Mogo was capable of killing, that the Sinestro Corp wouldn't dare to make an attack again......

Bentley
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, I believe Kilowog said that since Mogo was capable of killing, that the Sinestro Corp wouldn't dare to make an attack again......


Ego is still a beast, facing Galactus in one to one combat and doing well.

King Kandy
Ego was almost as powerful as a hungry Galactus so he probably takes this but it would be a battle for the ages. He also gave two Celestials trouble.

iceman24567
Mogo can make shields erm

Mindset
GL shields, which suck, except Kyle's of course.

iceman24567
erm

Mindset
Yea I know, it's pretty sad. erm

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by King Kandy
He also gave two Celestials trouble.

He nearly killed them.

Non-canon though.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He nearly killed them.

Non-canon though. No it's canon you just don't know it yet eek!

Knowsbleed33
You son of a 'beep'!

occultdestroyer
Mogo Gogo FTLose

OneDumbG0
Originally posted by King Kandy
Ego was almost as powerful as a hungry Galactus so he probably takes this but it would be a battle for the ages. He also gave two Celestials trouble. it was suggested in their second fight, that hungry Galactus and Ego were evenly matched.

Prep-Man
Mogo was a beast, killing all those Black Lanterns and sucking in some of the GL/Indigo Lanterns.

AsbestosFlaygon
Yeah, I'm having second thoughts now.

He easily dispatched those BLs like fodder. And we all know how tough BLs are.

I doubt even Nova Prime can get past through 5 BLs.

Knowsbleed33
Ego.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Yeah, I'm having second thoughts now.

He easily dispatched those BLs like fodder. And we all know how tough BLs are.

I doubt even Nova Prime can get past through 5 BLs.

Mogo was also the last to stand in Moore's Empire of Tears prophecy. Mogo is a beast when he actually does anything.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Mogo was a beast, killing all those Black Lanterns and sucking in some of the GL/Indigo Lanterns.

Not a hard feat for Ego to replicate if he had knowledge about the BLs as Mogo did.

rotiart
Lanterns fly away in space around stars where the gravity pull was probably much greater than whatever mogo did....but noone could resist his pull as if he were a black hole....

Great showing for mogo... But low for lanterns in general...
And if mogo can do it... Ego probably could as well...

xJLxKing
Mogo. He smashes into Ego

Prep-Man
We really don't know Mogo's limits, but he is one of the strongest lanterns.

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Prep-Man
We really don't know Mogo's limits, but he is one of the strongest lanterns.

In other words he lacks feat to take out Ego. Ego wins than.

AsbestosFlaygon
Mogo doesn't have as many low showings, though.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
In other words he lacks feat to take out Ego. Ego wins than.

If he is one of the strongest Lantern's, he should take this. Lantern's throughout the years have done some crazy things. Just recently, Mogo just owned an army of Black Lanterns.

rotiart
Originally posted by Prep-Man
If he is one of the strongest Lantern's, he should take this. Lantern's throughout the years have done some crazy things. Just recently, Mogo just owned an army of Black Lanterns. Yah but how he did it... Didn't really make sense

lanterns can fly ftl but can't escape the gravity pull of a planet..
Reeks of pis to me.

Drops the toilet lid....

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by Prep-Man
If he is one of the strongest Lantern's, he should take this. Lantern's throughout the years have done some crazy things. Just recently, Mogo just owned an army of Black Lanterns.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Not a hard feat for Ego to replicate if he had knowledge about the BLs as Mogo did.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by rotiart
Yah but how he did it... Didn't really make sense

lanterns can fly ftl but can't escape the gravity pull of a planet..
Reeks of pis to me.

Drops the toilet lid....

I'm sure his ring had something to do with it. It wasn't just under his own power, from what I remember.

Blanket
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Mogo. He smashes into Ego It's like two basketballs being thrown at each other.

753
I'd go with ego from what 'ive seen of them. They are pretty cool concepts

galactusischere
Ego>Mogo both in originality and power

Prep-Man
Mogo was a beast last issue.

Colossus-Big C
I assume the gravity of both planets would smash them into each other laughing out loud

Black bolt z
Ego.He(at max power)is on the same level as galactus.

Diesldude
L'Eggo MyEggo

eh I mean Ego vs Mogo. Who wins?

Superfanboy
Mogo is a GL
With GL movie coming out Mogo wins
FLAWLESS VICTORY
FATALITY

Diesldude
Originally posted by Superfanboy
Mogo is a GL
With GL movie coming out Mogo wins
FLAWLESS VICTORY
FATALITY

I say Ego. He is a villain for Galactus. Mogo is lunch.

Superfanboy
I don't care NVR

Diesldude
Originally posted by Superfanboy
I don't care NVR

Ha! coming from a guy how just registered today.

Superfanboy
Alright NVR u win
Can we end this now?

Diesldude
Originally posted by Superfanboy
Alright NVR u win
Can we end this now?

Whatever dude,

Do you think Mogo can beat Galactus? ANd more importantly, do you think Mogo will make a guest appearance in the movie?

Superfanboy
I don't care about G
He will be jobbed in mighty thor
No mogo in movie i think

Kazenji
And then Alter Ego enters the battle.

carver9
Who wins.? Full powered Ego.

Caps Conscience
They make Planet Sex.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
They make Planet Sex.
End result: Amigo.

ThereIsHope
Ego wins.

Horrificus
nice match carver.
i would say ego ftw, but i know there are lots of mogo fans that will disagree.

Odekahn
Like me. Mogo wins.






He doesn't socialize either.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
They make Planet Sex.
Mogo has higher standards than that. Ego is hideous and Mogo will let him know.

I would love to see these planets facing eschother with Ego rambling and shouting insults as if arguing with an imaginary friend. Sadly without bzzd to be Mogos hype man We won't actually know when mogo cracks wise and when ego is just being sensitive to Mogos anti social silence but either way it ends with Ego flying away crying.
http://mimg.ugo.com/201004/42539/cuts/mogo-green-lantern_480x480.jpg

chipguy_okay
If I knew of another living planet I would have included it too!
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljnsbtQ9vU1qdqiwyo1_500.jpg
VS
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146226/3016547-ego+the+living+planet.jpg

After they get done fighting each other they rage on over to take on anyone from the High Herald Tier.

Endless Mike
Ego, I doubt John Stewart could have destroyed him.

Emi~Kiro
Mogo wtf crushes in the giant face on the other planet.

zopzop
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Ego, I doubt John Stewart could have destroyed him.
Context, he had a BLACK LANTERN RING.

Endless Mike
So? Black lanterns are hard to put down but not more powerful than the other colors.

zopzop
Originally posted by Endless Mike
So? Black lanterns are hard to put down but not more powerful than the other colors.
Re-read the issue. He had a Black Lantern Ring and Mogo had residual Black Lantern energy inside his core from the time he imprisoned a legion of Black Lanterns. He used the BL ring to fire off a blast and he wrecked Mogo. He would have killed Ego too under those circumstances.

SevenShackles
So ...if ego wins he still loses. He kills mogo then the black rings his core is constantly destroying will come to life and bring a black lantern mogo to beat up Ego. Depending on how Many black rings are needed to bring a planet back he could even spit out a few BL green lanterns and wtf pwn ego hard.

I'll side with mogo.

abhilegend
I doubt Mogo would be incapacitated by a comet like BRB did to ego.

DTM
Ego wins. Hes a match for Galactus (well, nearly so), I dont see any GL being close to that level of power.

pym-ftw
Ego is an abstract...

Unless we take him at his lowest, he solidly wins

abhilegend
Originally posted by DTM
Ego wins. Hes a match for Galactus (well, nearly so), I dont see any GL being close to that level of power.
That galactus was so powerful that his ultimate attack was throwing asteroids at ego.Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ego is an abstract...

Unless we take him at his lowest, he solidly wins
Ego isn't an abstrct.

Endless Mike
And blasting him with the power of "1000 suns".

Galan007
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ego is an abstract... ab-stract
/ab-strakt/
Adjective
Existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Endless Mike
And blasting him with the power of "1000 suns".
Asteroids>Power of 1000 suns?

Endless Mike
Potentially, depending on how fast they are going. You know how relativistic kinetic energy works?

guy222
Ego

byrdgang21
Originally posted by Endless Mike
And blasting him with the power of "1000 suns".

So he threw Sentry at him?? No one survives that attack. Lol

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Potentially, depending on how fast they are going. You know how relativistic kinetic energy works?
The guy-who-emails-physics-professors-for-battleboard-questions will ask you to leave the real life science crap out of this thread. laughing

operator616
Originally posted by abhilegend
That galactus was so powerful that his ultimate attack was throwing asteroids at ego.
Ego isn't an abstract.

Galactus' first attack was with the power of a thousand suns and ego nullified it easily.
it was mentioned in the issue that galactus consumed a planet, however the time period when he did that was unknown, but he stated that he was starving despite the fact that he was treated as being a universal threat in those issues.

also, ego's energies (which thor channeled) defeated galactus in the end. Pretty impressive id say.

obviously ego is not an abstract, nor is galactus for that matter.

Endless Mike
Galactus is abstract, he represents equity.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by Galan007
ab-stract
/ab-strakt/
Adjective
Existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.
Where would you put him powerwise?

High skyfather, because he also isn't that in name...

Imho he is closer to M body lower abstracts

operator616
galactus is a physical being since he has a physical body, unlike abstracts like eternity, infinity, oblivion, or death for instance, quasar #37:

http://i.imgur.com/99dWwf2.jpg


and it really makes sense.....the fact that he gets hungry is proof of that, may i ask you, how exactly can an abstract become hungry?? not to mention we see him bleed physically.

Galan007
Even though I posted the definition on the last page, I still don't think some people grasp what 'abstract' really means.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Ego at his best stomps from what I've seen.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
the Galactus/Odin class. oh you

zopzop
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Galactus is abstract, he represents equity.
No. It's the LT's face which represents the abstract concept of Equity. Galactus' role in the universe corresponds to that aspect of the LT. Galactus himself isn't Equity or even an abstract.

Later on, on that same page the LT breaks down how various parts of the human brain correspond to his aspects.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by Galan007
Even though I posted the definition on the last page, I still don't think some people grasp what 'abstract' really means.
You do realize per your definition a living planet is an abstract...

But I get what you mean

Endless Mike
Galactus' physical body is only essential to him when he's weak enough. In his true form he transcends it:

http://i.imgur.com/j1nJiQW.jpg

zopzop
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Galactus' physical body is only essential to him when he's weak enough. In his true form he transcends it:

http://i.imgur.com/j1nJiQW.jpg
A) Where is that scan from?
B) This was proven FALSE when he lay dying after being unable to digest the Elders he ate and he needed REAL abstracts like Order and Chaos to save his ass.

Endless Mike
Like I said, he was weakened then.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by zopzop
A) Where is that scan from?
B) This was proven FALSE when he lay dying after being unable to digest the Elders he ate and he needed REAL abstracts like Order and Chaos to save his ass. Oh. That reminds me of the time Eternity lay catatonic, and then that one true abstract destroyed the thing holding not only Eternity catatonic, but it also entrapped Infinity within Eternity.

zopzop
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Oh. That reminds me of the time Eternity lay catatonic, and then that one true abstract destroyed the thing holding not only Eternity catatonic, but it also entrapped Infinity within Eternity.
Eternity lay catatonic because a universal level reality warper KHTFO.

Galactus lay dying because he couldn't digest his food. See the difference?

Also Galactus freeing Eternity was all part of Magus' larger plan to get him to tell the LT to reverse his verdict on the Infinity Gems. If Magus wanted Eternity to stay catatonic, he would have stayed catatonic and Galactus wouldn't have done jack.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Like I said, he was weakened then.
He was not weakened. He ate them and couldn't digest them so they were in his stomach/body, killing him from the inside.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by zopzop
Eternity lay catatonic because a universal level reality warper KHTFO.

Galactus lay dying because he couldn't digest his food. See the difference?

Also Galactus freeing Eternity was all part of Magus' larger plan to get him to tell the LT to reverse his verdict on the Infinity Gems. If Magus wanted Eternity to stay catatonic, he would have stayed catatonic and Galactus wouldn't have done jack. Because they kept reforming because of another abstract in Death. Which is funny considering Grandmaster on his own sneak attacked Death and had her at his mercy while using her power.

Right after he ate them Eternity came and thanked Galactus because the death of him would have meant the destruction of Eternity. So... that.

Not sure you want to play the lowball game though in defense of Eternity...

I'll tell you who didn't free Eternity... Order and Chaos.

So you're saying that something that is actively holding Infinity trapped, and holding Eternity catatonic was only broken by Galactus because Magus dropped its power or something?
Proof that he made it weaker or whatever it is that you're alluding to?

zopzop
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because they kept reforming because of another abstract in Death. Which is funny considering Grandmaster on his own sneak attacked Death and had her at his mercy while using her power.
Yup a TRUE Abstract kept them from dying because she willed it.

And no one claimed Death or any other abstract are super smart or unbeatable. They represent concepts and they don't bleed, drool, sweat, etc... (exception to this being the In-betweener who is both God/Man, Life/Death, etc... ) unlike Galactus.


Galactus was destroyed during Infinity War (even though he reformed later because Dr. Strange ran interference for him) and nothing happened to the universe or Eternity.


Any power capable of doing that to Eternity would ROFLstomp Order and Chaos, Galactus, Death, etc..


No, it was stated that Magus' whole plan was to create a crisis using the 5 CCUs that would require the IG to undo. He planed to use Galactus and crew to free Eternity (who the Magus imprisoned)so that he would ask the LT to reverse his ruling on the IG, which is what he was after all along. Magus hid all this from the great powers by using the majority of the 5 CCUs power to conceal himself from them.

Those 5 CCUs put Eternity/Infinity into a coma, was merging two universes together, AND was concealing himself from all the great powers. He was safely beyond Eternity in power and hence Eternity getting pwned by him is no low showing at all.

operator616
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Galactus' physical body is only essential to him when he's weak enough. In his true form he transcends it:

http://i.imgur.com/j1nJiQW.jpg

this shows that galactus doesn't have a true form, so what? where does it state that he is an abstract being??

the quasar scan which i already posted is confirmed by galactus' 2005 bio:

http://i.imgur.com/IP8PsrZ.jpg?1

clear as day.

tyrant makes a planet-fed galactus bleed, silver surfer #109 (3rd series)

http://i.imgur.com/4Kw4es5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Oom0JAa.jpg

i could go on with the evidence, but that should do it.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by zopzop

Yup a TRUE Abstract kept them from dying because she willed it. Are you being purposefully stupid right now? The TRUE abstract who's power is over death kept them alive because she barred them from her realm?

Can Eternity do that, can Infinity?

Well, anyway, here's TRUE abstract saying that Galactus' role is possibly more important than hers:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FantasticFour257-05.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop
And no one claimed Death or any other abstract are super smart or unbeatable. They represent concepts and they don't bleed, drool, sweat, etc... (exception to this being the In-betweener who is both God/Man, Life/Death, etc... ) unlike Galactus.

The point skipped over your entire face.

Grandmaster has enough power in him before he was immortal to defeat Death and have her at his mercy (although it was a sneak attack).

Grandmaster was inside Galactus along with a few others attacking Galactus from the inside, and it took them 7 issues to not kill Galactus, who got up instantly and fought the "Abstract" in In-Betweener to a stalemate.

Fancy you bring up Death, Eternity, Order, Chaos, and In-Betweener though.
Guess who gets lumped in with them?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FFANN023_65.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FFANN023_66.jpg


Originally posted by zopzop

Galactus was destroyed during Infinity War (even though he reformed later because Dr. Strange ran interference for him) and nothing happened to the universe or Eternity. Galactus reformed from atoms there...

But, anyway, he was instantly revived and many universes away from 616.

Originally posted by zopzop

Any power capable of doing that to Eternity would ROFLstomp Order and Chaos, Galactus, Death, etc.. Irrelevant. No one's claiming Galactus is equal in power to Eternity. Eternity however, has absolutely garbage feats that shouldn't happen to an abstract easily on par with Galactus getting attacked from the inside by the Elders.

Originally posted by zopzop
No, it was stated that Magus' whole plan was to create a crisis using the 5 CCUs that would require the IG to undo. He planed to use Galactus and crew to free Eternity (who the Magus imprisoned)so that he would ask the LT to reverse his ruling on the IG, which is what he was after all along. Magus hid all this from the great powers by using the majority of the 5 CCUs power to conceal himself from them.

Those 5 CCUs put Eternity/Infinity into a coma, was merging two universes together, AND was concealing himself from all the great powers. He was safely beyond Eternity in power and hence Eternity getting pwned by him is no low showing at all. And Galactus destroyed something he created. Great feat.

OK. Then post scans that state Magus lowered his hold on Eternity then.

It might have been his plan. However, nowhere is it even alluded to that whatever was holding Eternity catatonic was weakened just so his plan could come into fruition. It was the same as it was when it was created. Galactus just said I don't care and then he blasted the shit out of it.

Without Galactus, they would have been trapped 'forever'. Wasn't that your entire point that Galactus wasn't an abstract, because he needed Master Order and Lord Chaos' help?
How quickly the roles reverse.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by operator616
this shows that galactus doesn't have a true form, so what? where does it state that he is an abstract being??

the quasar scan which i already posted is confirmed by galactus' 2005 bio:

http://i.imgur.com/IP8PsrZ.jpg?1

clear as day.

tyrant makes a planet-fed galactus bleed, silver surfer #109 (3rd series)

http://i.imgur.com/4Kw4es5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Oom0JAa.jpg

i could go on with the evidence, but that should do it.

http://i40.tinypic.com/jtscuo.jpg

zopzop
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Are you being purposefully stupid right now? The TRUE abstract who's power is over death kept them alive because she barred them from her realm?
Are you losing your mind? Who said abstracts were unbeatable? I was saying true abstracts don't bleed, sweat, need to eat, etc... and they represent concepts. Galactus is NOT an abstract.



Well, anyway, here's TRUE abstract saying that Galactus' role is possibly more important than hers:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FantasticFour257-05.jpg
Possibly? We saw how that was FALSE when Death put her foot down and crushed the Cancerverse invasion force while Galactus couldn't even handle the GE. We saw what happened when Beyonder was about to obliterate Death, the entire cosmic pantheon rode to her defense (even though they couldn't stop Beyonder anyway).


No you are missing the point. No one is claiming Abstracts are all powerful.

He "got up" after Order/Chaos saved his ass from death. He still couldn't beat the IB. Or are you forgetting Surfer/Nova/the FF/Elders with their Gems jumping in to save Galactus?


We saw how meaningless that was when Galactus couldn't even handle the GE but Death put an end to the entire invasion force from the Cancerverse.



Instant? Where did it say instant? Because we saw Magus and Thanos staring at their monitors wondering if the blast they hit Galactus and crew with wasn't overkill. It took time for him to reform and nothing happened to the universe of Eternity.


Marvel jobs out Eternity. Like DC jobs out Spectre. So?


He didn't lower his hold. Don't you get it? The whole plan was to have someone attempt to free Eternity so that he could ask the LT to reverse his judgement. He had to make it look convincing so as not to raise suspicion (since he was hiding from the LT using the majority of the power of the 5 CCUs to do it). He had it planned out all in advance. Everything Galactus did was exactly what Magus wanted him to do. He straight up said so.

This is what I said

In response to this :

I was pointing out that Galactus is a physical being and lay dying because he was unable to digest the Elders. The fact that Order/Chaos are real abstracts is fact. He needed them to save him or he'd be dead.

zopzop
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://i40.tinypic.com/jtscuo.jpg
"If one can truly call it blood...."

Mindset
Bran won 10/10

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by zopzop

Are you losing your mind? Who said abstracts were unbeatable? I was saying true abstracts don't bleed, sweat, need to eat, etc... and they represent concepts. Galactus is NOT an abstract.
Good dodge. You brought up Death being a TRUE abstract just because she willed something to stay alive. Which is her entire concept.
It was stupid and nonsensical to say.

You're making up stipulations to be an abstract and we've seen Eternity bleed anyway. Pretty sure Phoenix has bled a lot. Eternity was turned into what seemed like a pile of blood when Genis crushed him. I wonder what else I could dig up. smile
But anyway, a concept shouldn't be able to die either, but they sure ****ing do at every turn. A concept should be unbeatable too for that matter.
Why don't you include those in your made up stipulations? Oh, because you're trying to find things that happen to Galactus that don't happen to anyone else. Why don't you say they don't need a helmet either?

But, as for you saying they don't need to eat... what happens when death stops happening in the universe? What happens when Order or Chaos are overwhelming in the universe?
Do they need feed off these? Do they not need these to exist?

Originally posted by zopzop

Possibly? We saw how that was FALSE when Death put her foot down and crushed the Cancerverse invasion force while Galactus couldn't even handle the GE. We saw what happened when Beyonder was about to obliterate Death, the entire cosmic pantheon rode to her defense (even though they couldn't stop Beyonder anyway). How does that have anything to do with role?

We also saw that 616 Galactus keeps an abstract in check that would destroy everything, as well as him keeping the universe in check via the representation of destruction.
We saw that without Death the universe would still strive

If you want to get into it.

Originally posted by zopzop

No you are missing the point. No one is claiming Abstracts are all powerful.

He "got up" after Order/Chaos saved his ass from death. He still couldn't beat the IB. Or are you forgetting Surfer/Nova/the FF/Elders with their Gems jumping in to save Galactus? How are you still missing the point? Let me say it again even simpler:
Grandmaster attack Death once. Grandmaster defeat Death.
Grandmaster attack Galactus from inside with other Elders. Grandmaster take down Galactus.

That is not the low feat that you think it is.
Galactus tried to digest death pretty much, while also getting attacked by them. It didn't work out. Why does this mean anything?

Yes, I thought that went without saying.
I said he stalemated IB. Which he did. Or did IB win in your comic?
But anyway, you said yourself IB is an abstract, so not getting the attempted lowballing.

Originally posted by zopzop

We saw how meaningless that was when Galactus couldn't even handle the GE but Death put an end to the entire invasion force from the Cancerverse. Why is your mind so simple?

You keep jumping from abstracts not being all powerful, or unbeatable to concepts and the like, and then you jump back to "all powerful"

Galactus is part the great powers along with the exact beings you called Abstracts. What does that mean to you? Apparently nothing because Death beat the Cancerverse... though I'm really not getting the correlation.


Originally posted by zopzop

Instant? Where did it say instant? Because we saw Magus and Thanos staring at their monitors wondering if the blast they hit Galactus and crew with wasn't overkill. It took time for him to reform and nothing happened to the universe of Eternity. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/009-InfinityWar4.jpg

It was many universes away, and also, Galactus was technically not dead yet. And this is the abstract version of Death stating that, so you can shut up right now about that:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/drstrangesorcerer4504fv3.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop

Marvel jobs out Eternity. Like DC jobs out Spectre. So? So you think a low feat from Galactus should count for all the marbles, but Eternity's don't count because Marvel jobs him out (which was my point with you not wanting to play the lowball game).

Do you think about what you write like ever?

I'd say Marvel jobs out Galactus, but he disintegrated someone multiple times who defeated Death, and then stalemated an Abstract in IB... so I don't know.


Originally posted by zopzop
He didn't lower his hold. Don't you get it? The whole plan was to have someone attempt to free Eternity so that he could ask the LT to reverse his judgement. He had to make it look convincing so as not to raise suspicion (since he was hiding from the LT using the majority of the power of the 5 CCUs to do it). He had it planned out all in advance. Everything Galactus did was exactly what Magus wanted him to do. He straight up said so.

This is what I said

In response to this :

I was pointing out that Galactus is a physical being and lay dying because he was unable to digest the Elders. The fact that Order/Chaos are real abstracts is fact. He needed them to save him or he'd be dead. So we're back at square one.

Galactus destroyed something that was holding Eternity catatonic and Infinity trapped within Eternity. Eternity/Infinity needed a TRUE abstract to save them. No?

Also, I thought I asked you to provide scans... but whatever I guess.

And he was also getting attacked as well. There you go with your "he needed them to save or he'd be dead" again. How is this different than when Galactus saved Infinity/Eternity?

But anyway, Galactus takes form to manifest himself to lesser beings:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Statements%20of%20power/SilverSurferv3140p11.jpg

Galactus is no longer a being in the absolute physical sense:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FFv1262010.jpg

Like your whole spiel with IB, Galactus' 'physical' form is important to what he represents. He's got two functions as well, destruction, and keeping Abraxas in check. He was also merged with the previous Eternity too so...
If Galactus isn't an abstract, then he's at the very least equal to the abstract in power in In-Betweener, so it's ultimately irrelevant.

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